Government secures 600 jobs

[drfchound]

Forgemasters.
Not been mentioned on here yet.

[since-1969]

Forgemasters.
Not been mentioned on here yet.

What League are they in ??

[karldew]

They got any decent goalkeepers?

[drfchound]

Forgemasters.
Not been mentioned on here yet.

What League are they in ??

Something like Sheffield Senior League I would imagine.

[drfchound]

They got any decent goalkeepers?

Might have some coal keepers.

[LincsRover]

Not wanting to start a politics debate but 6000 + jobs lost at Swindon Honda. I’m sure Bozo the clown and his c*ntcircus will celebrate this as a brexit success!

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/feb/19/honda-confirms-swindon-plant-will-close-in-2021

[wilts rover]

So are you are in favour of nationalising industry now hound - always knew you were an old commie at heart...

[drfchound]

So are you are in favour of nationalising industry now hound - always knew you were an old commie at heart...

Haha. Nice one wilts.
No mate, I just heard it on the news and thought it was good news for the people who work there although I did think (didn’t really) think that some of our posters might have been happy about it.

[Southboy]

This government are doing easy politics - just throw money at it. Fisherman wrecked by Brexit, give em £112m, Nissan are given millions to invest in Sunderland, now steel works are nationalised and that's after the railways were taken back into gov control. Loads of other examples. Any idiot, even BJ, can solve problems by throwing money at it. Thatcher will be turning in her grave...

[Bentley Bullet]

Not wanting to start a politics debate but 6000 + jobs lost at Swindon Honda. I’m sure Bozo the clown and his c*ntcircus will celebrate this as a brexit success!

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/feb/19/honda-confirms-swindon-plant-will-close-in-2021

Is the closure due to Brexit?

[wilts rover]

Give them time hound. I fully expect all those posters who said Corbyn would be wasting taxpayers money by nationalising vital British industries to be all over this once the match has finished.

They need to do the same with Liberty and Cobham imho.

[scawsby steve]

What the f*ck is this doing on the football forum?

[drfchound]

Ah, that will be my fault SS.
When I come on here everything appears in one lot.
I never even look at what section I am in.
Maybe someone can move it to the right section.

[LincsRover]

Not wanting to start a politics debate but 6000 + jobs lost at Swindon Honda. I’m sure Bozo the clown and his c*ntcircus will celebrate this as a brexit success!

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/feb/19/honda-confirms-swindon-plant-will-close-in-2021

Is the closure due to Brexit?

Yes, the md of Honda directly blames brexit.

[Dagenham Rover]

I think Forgemasters is a somewhat different case to most 

[Bentley Bullet]

Not wanting to start a politics debate but 6000 + jobs lost at Swindon Honda. I’m sure Bozo the clown and his c*ntcircus will celebrate this as a brexit success!

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/feb/19/honda-confirms-swindon-plant-will-close-in-2021

Is the closure due to Brexit?

Yes, the md of Honda directly blames brexit.

The company said its decision was tied to plans to invest in electric vehicles, insisting Brexit was not a factor.

[Southboy]

That's because they want to maintain relations with the UK gov and not enter the field of politics. The decision would definitely been affected by Brexit. It may not be the only reason but it won't have helped.

[Bentley Bullet]

That's because they want to maintain relations with the UK gov and not enter the field of politics. The decision would definitely been affected by Brexit. It may not be the only reason but it won't have helped.

That's just your opinion, which is different to saying the MD of Honda directly blames Brexit.

[wilts rover]

Why are Honda not making their new electric cars in the UK, BB?

[Bentley Bullet]

Wilts. Not being part of Honda management all I know is what I read, and Honda says that because of the significant challenges of electrification they have had to revise its global manufacturing operations, and focus activity in regions where it expects to have high production volumes.

Now that I've answered your question, Wilts, you answer mine. Is what I've just said untrue, and instead did the MD of Honda directly blame Brexit?

[SydneyRover]

Not wanting to start a politics debate but 6000 + jobs lost at Swindon Honda. I’m sure Bozo the clown and his c*ntcircus will celebrate this as a brexit success!

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/feb/19/honda-confirms-swindon-plant-will-close-in-2021

Is the closure due to Brexit?

Yes, the md of Honda directly blames brexit.

The company said its decision was tied to plans to invest in electric vehicles, insisting Brexit was not a factor.

the whole sentence, may as well not be selective when we quote aye bb?  ...... ''But while the company said its decision was tied to plans to invest in electric vehicles, insisting Brexit was not a factor, MPs and industry commentators questioned the claim''


Automotive industry experts said that while multiple factors are behind Swindon’s closure, uncertainty about Britain’s future trading relationship with the EU must have played a part.

“They [Honda] are probably trying to be polite publicly but there are a range of factors here,” said David Bailey, an economics professor at Aston University.


''He pointed to a landmark free trade deal between the EU and Japan that will allow Honda to export cars produced in its domestic market free of tariffs by 2027, reducing its need for a European base.

But he said the lack of clarity about Brexit, coupled with poor industrial strategy on the part of the government, had made the decision easier for Honda. “I think we’re seeing a collision between Brexit uncertainty making investment difficult, just as the industry is transforming itself,” he said''

If only the UK was part of that EU thing and was in a position to vote on important stuff aye?

[Bentley Bullet]

But they are just opinions in response to Honda's official statement. Where did the MD of Honda directly blame Brexit?

[SydneyRover]

A decision to import cars directly from Japan to the EU is not opinion is it bb? and it directly goes to the heart of the problem does it not? and the fact that the UK does not have any voting rights in the wealthiest single market in the world is not opinion is it bb?

And a  professor of economics usually wants to disseminate the best available evidence wouldn't you think bb?

[Axholme Lion]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-56538151

Good news then?

[turnbull for england]

Yep  highly skilled manufacturing plant turns into warehousing.   6 blokes and some robots

[Axholme Lion]

Yep  highly skilled manufacturing plant turns into warehousing.   6 blokes and some robots

That's Honda you mean? They were going in any case. It's the same with Mitsubishi pulling out of europe to the more profitable Asian market. The demands the EU of car manufacturers with unreasonable emissions deamnds are too costly to the manufacturers.

[Herbert Anchovy]

According to a report I recall seeing at the time of the announcement of the Honda factory closure, the writing was on the wall for the factory as long ago as 2008 when it began working at a 60% production capacity. Way before Brexit. I don’t know just how much Brexit influenced Honda’s decision, but there were definitely other very significant factors on play.

Re Forgemasters; would the UK Government have been able to purchase the company previously under EU state aid and procurement rules?

[Filo]

Remember the Tory Govt withdrawing a £80m loan from Forgemasters?

https://www.theengineer.co.uk/government-cancels-forgemasters-nuclear-press-loan/

[drfchound]

According to a report I recall seeing at the time of the announcement of the Honda factory closure, the writing was on the wall for the factory as long ago as 2008 when it began working at a 60% production capacity. Way before Brexit. I don’t know just how much Brexit influenced Honda’s decision, but there were definitely other very significant factors on play.

Re Forgemasters; would the UK Government have been able to purchase the company previously under EU state aid and procurement rules?

That would be 2008 when Labour were in charge then Herbert.
Some good information put forward in your post.

[Sprotyrover]

Forge masters is a strategically important piece of industry, they make things that no other company can make. they have the technological ability and can build virtually anything made out of Steel. Skoda was a similar prestigious company which was converted by the Germans, that's why they bought it.