Club Doncaster…

[PDX_Rover]

I’m sorry, but the powers that be don’t have to tell you anything. If you’re not happy with that you can always vote with your feet.

please don’t talk so silly as I have supported Rovers since I was 8 missing Berry few games home and away, and now 70, and have now seen enough to tell me over them years all is not what it seems at a club, and most of the blind sided fans that believe everything they are told but you WILL LEARN over the years.  And why are all you Rovers wets always telling loyal Rovers fans to ether vote with there feet or go and support someone else.  If you all had your way we would not have any fans other that you all. Then see how long you would have a clue to support.  So please please don’t talk so silly

Well said vicar

I doubt you’re even a fan of Rovers. Sanctimonious child.

You've brought nothing whatsoever to this discussion, you can't even muster the brain power to counteract any points or questions .

I don’t have to counter any points or questions. You’ve been bitching about everything the past week and provide no evidence when challenged. Zilch. Zero. Squat.

Instead you make veiled threats. I’d love to know who you are because I reckon you’re somebody’s stooge.

[danumdon]

Give me strength. Do you not recall pre pandemic meet the owners events? Would you want to give interviews to people who feel the need to give you a verbal kicking at the drop of a hat? I wouldn’t.

I expect to be informed by the powers that be

Informed about what?

Ok are you a member of a club other than the Rovers.  If so you would know IF you are a member of the said club the committee information it’s members as of things that go on in the club do they not.  Well we are all if we buy a season ticket are all members th this club

Total rubbish, your not a member of the club, your a customer who pays for admittance to watch this private business carry out its function, that is play football.

If you want to be a member of this club take your pension cheque down to the club and see if that buys you a position on the board of directors, you can then find out what the club board of directors committee have to say and what they will do, ect. Until then you and me just pay to watch a match of football and get to talk nonsense on this board.

that is where you have got it wrong we are fans not customers

Ok, tell me in this instance what differentiates a fan from a customer. ie, does your ticket price get you in to watch a match or does it give you rights to receive company information and make company decisions.

If your asking the difference between being a fan and a customer, then you're not a fan .

I didnt see your answer to my questions there, all i see is someone spouting platitudes.

[Redandwhite]

I’m sorry, but the powers that be don’t have to tell you anything. If you’re not happy with that you can always vote with your feet.

please don’t talk so silly as I have supported Rovers since I was 8 missing Berry few games home and away, and now 70, and have now seen enough to tell me over them years all is not what it seems at a club, and most of the blind sided fans that believe everything they are told but you WILL LEARN over the years.  And why are all you Rovers wets always telling loyal Rovers fans to ether vote with there feet or go and support someone else.  If you all had your way we would not have any fans other that you all. Then see how long you would have a clue to support.  So please please don’t talk so silly

Well said vicar

I doubt you’re even a fan of Rovers. Sanctimonious child.

You've brought nothing whatsoever to this discussion, you can't even muster the brain power to counteract any points or questions .

I don’t have to counter any points or questions. You’ve been bitching about everything the past week and provide no evidence when challenged. Zilch. Zero. Squat.

Instead you make veiled threats. I’d love to know who you are because I reckon you’re somebody’s stooge.

. Good one .

Challenged about what?
Go on challenge me

[PDX_Rover]

I’m sorry, but the powers that be don’t have to tell you anything. If you’re not happy with that you can always vote with your feet.

please don’t talk so silly as I have supported Rovers since I was 8 missing Berry few games home and away, and now 70, and have now seen enough to tell me over them years all is not what it seems at a club, and most of the blind sided fans that believe everything they are told but you WILL LEARN over the years.  And why are all you Rovers wets always telling loyal Rovers fans to ether vote with there feet or go and support someone else.  If you all had your way we would not have any fans other that you all. Then see how long you would have a clue to support.  So please please don’t talk so silly

Well said vicar

I doubt you’re even a fan of Rovers. Sanctimonious child.

You've brought nothing whatsoever to this discussion, you can't even muster the brain power to counteract any points or questions .

I don’t have to counter any points or questions. You’ve been bitching about everything the past week and provide no evidence when challenged. Zilch. Zero. Squat.

Instead you make veiled threats. I’d love to know who you are because I reckon you’re somebody’s stooge.

. Good one .

It’s true though. Scratch your surface and you have nothing of substance to contribute. As the saying goes… empty vessels make most noise.

[Redandwhite]

I’m sorry, but the powers that be don’t have to tell you anything. If you’re not happy with that you can always vote with your feet.

please don’t talk so silly as I have supported Rovers since I was 8 missing Berry few games home and away, and now 70, and have now seen enough to tell me over them years all is not what it seems at a club, and most of the blind sided fans that believe everything they are told but you WILL LEARN over the years.  And why are all you Rovers wets always telling loyal Rovers fans to ether vote with there feet or go and support someone else.  If you all had your way we would not have any fans other that you all. Then see how long you would have a clue to support.  So please please don’t talk so silly

Well said vicar

I doubt you’re even a fan of Rovers. Sanctimonious child.

You've brought nothing whatsoever to this discussion, you can't even muster the brain power to counteract any points or questions .

I don’t have to counter any points or questions. You’ve been bitching about everything the past week and provide no evidence when challenged. Zilch. Zero. Squat.

Instead you make veiled threats. I’d love to know who you are because I reckon you’re somebody’s stooge.

. Good one .

It’s true though. Scratch your surface and you have nothing of substance to contribute. As the saying goes… empty vessels make most noise.

OK, so starting with my comments on this thread, challenge me .

[Glyn_Wigley]

Give me strength. Do you not recall pre pandemic meet the owners events? Would you want to give interviews to people who feel the need to give you a verbal kicking at the drop of a hat? I wouldn’t.

I expect to be informed by the powers that be

Informed about what?

Ok are you a member of a club other than the Rovers.  If so you would know IF you are a member of the said club the committee information it’s members as of things that go on in the club do they not.  Well we are all if we buy a season ticket are all members th this club

Rovers isn't a club it's a limited company. The last club to still be a club was Nottingham Forest and they stopped being one in 1986.

[PDX_Rover]

I’m sorry, but the powers that be don’t have to tell you anything. If you’re not happy with that you can always vote with your feet.

please don’t talk so silly as I have supported Rovers since I was 8 missing Berry few games home and away, and now 70, and have now seen enough to tell me over them years all is not what it seems at a club, and most of the blind sided fans that believe everything they are told but you WILL LEARN over the years.  And why are all you Rovers wets always telling loyal Rovers fans to ether vote with there feet or go and support someone else.  If you all had your way we would not have any fans other that you all. Then see how long you would have a clue to support.  So please please don’t talk so silly

Well said vicar

I doubt you’re even a fan of Rovers. Sanctimonious child.

You've brought nothing whatsoever to this discussion, you can't even muster the brain power to counteract any points or questions .

I don’t have to counter any points or questions. You’ve been bitching about everything the past week and provide no evidence when challenged. Zilch. Zero. Squat.

Instead you make veiled threats. I’d love to know who you are because I reckon you’re somebody’s stooge.

. Good one .

It’s true though. Scratch your surface and you have nothing of substance to contribute. As the saying goes… empty vessels make most noise.

OK, so starting with my comments on this thread, challenge me .

A growing number of fans… How many? 3, 40, 1000?

On your previous lack of ambition whine-athon, you made a lot of claims, and I think you were asked to deliver your thoughts / ideas… tumbleweed.

How about some constructive thoughts? Other than the board/owners/CEO/office cat/tea lady need to go…

I mean, a person of your undoubted panache and business acumen should no problems supporting progress with some insightful ideas that nobody else dared dream of…

[Redandwhite]

I’m sorry, but the powers that be don’t have to tell you anything. If you’re not happy with that you can always vote with your feet.

please don’t talk so silly as I have supported Rovers since I was 8 missing Berry few games home and away, and now 70, and have now seen enough to tell me over them years all is not what it seems at a club, and most of the blind sided fans that believe everything they are told but you WILL LEARN over the years.  And why are all you Rovers wets always telling loyal Rovers fans to ether vote with there feet or go and support someone else.  If you all had your way we would not have any fans other that you all. Then see how long you would have a clue to support.  So please please don’t talk so silly

Well said vicar

I doubt you’re even a fan of Rovers. Sanctimonious child.

You've brought nothing whatsoever to this discussion, you can't even muster the brain power to counteract any points or questions .

I don’t have to counter any points or questions. You’ve been bitching about everything the past week and provide no evidence when challenged. Zilch. Zero. Squat.

Instead you make veiled threats. I’d love to know who you are because I reckon you’re somebody’s stooge.

. Good one .

It’s true though. Scratch your surface and you have nothing of substance to contribute. As the saying goes… empty vessels make most noise.

OK, so starting with my comments on this thread, challenge me .

A growing number of fans… How many? 3, 40, 1000?

On your previous lack of ambition whine-athon, you made a lot of claims, and I think you were asked to deliver your thoughts / ideas… tumbleweed.

How about some constructive thoughts? Other than the board/owners/CEO/office cat/tea lady need to go…

I mean, a person of your undoubted panache and business acumen should no problems supporting progress with some insightful ideas that nobody else dared dream of…

Well if your want a specific number, you could conduct a survey . But reading social media on dons and rovers pages, the discontent among fans is growing, with the board being the main point of contention .

OK, other than that  what SPECIFIC claims did I make that you would like to challenge ?

I'll also repeat a question I asked further up, which no one can or has yet answered  .

When was the last time blunt or brammall gave an interview ? Because I'm not sure they ever have .

[the vicar]

Give me strength. Do you not recall pre pandemic meet the owners events? Would you want to give interviews to people who feel the need to give you a verbal kicking at the drop of a hat? I wouldn’t.

I expect to be informed by the powers that be

Informed about what?

Ok are you a member of a club other than the Rovers.  If so you would know IF you are a member of the said club the committee information it’s members as of things that go on in the club do they not.  Well we are all if we buy a season ticket are all members th this club

Rovers isn't a club it's a limited company. The last club to still be a club was Nottingham Forest and they stopped being one in 1986.

oh ok I thought it was DONCASTER ROVERS FOOTBALL CLUB IM SORRY IF IM WRONG OR ARE YOU WRONG

[Glyn_Wigley]

If discontent is 'growing' then you must know the numbers else you're just guessing.

[Glyn_Wigley]

Give me strength. Do you not recall pre pandemic meet the owners events? Would you want to give interviews to people who feel the need to give you a verbal kicking at the drop of a hat? I wouldn’t.

I expect to be informed by the powers that be

Informed about what?

Ok are you a member of a club other than the Rovers.  If so you would know IF you are a member of the said club the committee information it’s members as of things that go on in the club do they not.  Well we are all if we buy a season ticket are all members th this club

Rovers isn't a club it's a limited company. The last club to still be a club was Nottingham Forest and they stopped being one in 1986.

oh ok I thought it was DONCASTER ROVERS FOOTBALL CLUB IM SORRY IF IM WRONG OR ARE YOU WRONG

I'm just pointing out that it's a club in name only, like every other league club. It's not a member's club with member's club rules.

And before you start claiming that I'm 'bullying' you, I'd have pointed it out whoever had said it.

[PDX_Rover]

I’m sorry, but the powers that be don’t have to tell you anything. If you’re not happy with that you can always vote with your feet.

please don’t talk so silly as I have supported Rovers since I was 8 missing Berry few games home and away, and now 70, and have now seen enough to tell me over them years all is not what it seems at a club, and most of the blind sided fans that believe everything they are told but you WILL LEARN over the years.  And why are all you Rovers wets always telling loyal Rovers fans to ether vote with there feet or go and support someone else.  If you all had your way we would not have any fans other that you all. Then see how long you would have a clue to support.  So please please don’t talk so silly

Well said vicar

I doubt you’re even a fan of Rovers. Sanctimonious child.

You've brought nothing whatsoever to this discussion, you can't even muster the brain power to counteract any points or questions .

I don’t have to counter any points or questions. You’ve been bitching about everything the past week and provide no evidence when challenged. Zilch. Zero. Squat.

Instead you make veiled threats. I’d love to know who you are because I reckon you’re somebody’s stooge.

. Good one .

It’s true though. Scratch your surface and you have nothing of substance to contribute. As the saying goes… empty vessels make most noise.

OK, so starting with my comments on this thread, challenge me .

A growing number of fans… How many? 3, 40, 1000?

On your previous lack of ambition whine-athon, you made a lot of claims, and I think you were asked to deliver your thoughts / ideas… tumbleweed.

How about some constructive thoughts? Other than the board/owners/CEO/office cat/tea lady need to go…

I mean, a person of your undoubted panache and business acumen should no problems supporting progress with some insightful ideas that nobody else dared dream of…

Well if your want a specific number, you could conduct a survey . But reading social media on dons and rovers pages, the discontent among fans is growing, with the board being the main point of contention .

OK, other than that  what SPECIFIC claims did I make that you would like to challenge ?

I'll also repeat a question I asked further up, which no one can or has yet answered  .

When was the last time blunt or brammall gave an interview ? Because I'm not sure they ever have .

I’m going on your various rants over the past week. You have offered nothing by way of ideas and solutions. It’s the easiest thing in the world to sit and complain.

Why not request a meeting with the club to air your grievances and discuss solutions? I’m sure SM could speak to GB.

Or write to them?
Or attend a MTO meeting…

I doubt you will do any of the above because you would fall flat on your face.

In the past, Rovers’ fans have achieved a lot… from Raise The Roof to taking on Richardson…

If you’re that discombobulated, set up a protest.

Why don’t YOU conduct a survey to back up your claims.

[Redandwhite]

I’m sorry, but the powers that be don’t have to tell you anything. If you’re not happy with that you can always vote with your feet.

please don’t talk so silly as I have supported Rovers since I was 8 missing Berry few games home and away, and now 70, and have now seen enough to tell me over them years all is not what it seems at a club, and most of the blind sided fans that believe everything they are told but you WILL LEARN over the years.  And why are all you Rovers wets always telling loyal Rovers fans to ether vote with there feet or go and support someone else.  If you all had your way we would not have any fans other that you all. Then see how long you would have a clue to support.  So please please don’t talk so silly

Well said vicar

I doubt you’re even a fan of Rovers. Sanctimonious child.

You've brought nothing whatsoever to this discussion, you can't even muster the brain power to counteract any points or questions .

I don’t have to counter any points or questions. You’ve been bitching about everything the past week and provide no evidence when challenged. Zilch. Zero. Squat.

Instead you make veiled threats. I’d love to know who you are because I reckon you’re somebody’s stooge.

. Good one .

It’s true though. Scratch your surface and you have nothing of substance to contribute. As the saying goes… empty vessels make most noise.

OK, so starting with my comments on this thread, challenge me .

A growing number of fans… How many? 3, 40, 1000?

On your previous lack of ambition whine-athon, you made a lot of claims, and I think you were asked to deliver your thoughts / ideas… tumbleweed.

How about some constructive thoughts? Other than the board/owners/CEO/office cat/tea lady need to go…

I mean, a person of your undoubted panache and business acumen should no problems supporting progress with some insightful ideas that nobody else dared dream of…

Well if your want a specific number, you could conduct a survey . But reading social media on dons and rovers pages, the discontent among fans is growing, with the board being the main point of contention .

OK, other than that  what SPECIFIC claims did I make that you would like to challenge ?

I'll also repeat a question I asked further up, which no one can or has yet answered  .

When was the last time blunt or brammall gave an interview ? Because I'm not sure they ever have .

I’m going on your various rants over the past week. You have offered nothing by way of ideas and solutions. It’s the easiest thing in the world to sit and complain.

Why not request a meeting with the club to air your grievances and discuss solutions? I’m sure SM could speak to GB.

Or write to them?
Or attend a MTO meeting…

I doubt you will do any of the above because you would fall flat on your face.

In the past, Rovers’ fans have achieved a lot… from Raise The Roof to taking on Richardson…

If you’re that discombobulated, set up a protest.

Why don’t YOU conduct a survey to back up your claims.

Again, what SPECIFIC claims ?

[PDX_Rover]

I’m sorry, but the powers that be don’t have to tell you anything. If you’re not happy with that you can always vote with your feet.

please don’t talk so silly as I have supported Rovers since I was 8 missing Berry few games home and away, and now 70, and have now seen enough to tell me over them years all is not what it seems at a club, and most of the blind sided fans that believe everything they are told but you WILL LEARN over the years.  And why are all you Rovers wets always telling loyal Rovers fans to ether vote with there feet or go and support someone else.  If you all had your way we would not have any fans other that you all. Then see how long you would have a clue to support.  So please please don’t talk so silly

Well said vicar

I doubt you’re even a fan of Rovers. Sanctimonious child.

You've brought nothing whatsoever to this discussion, you can't even muster the brain power to counteract any points or questions .

I don’t have to counter any points or questions. You’ve been bitching about everything the past week and provide no evidence when challenged. Zilch. Zero. Squat.

Instead you make veiled threats. I’d love to know who you are because I reckon you’re somebody’s stooge.

. Good one .

It’s true though. Scratch your surface and you have nothing of substance to contribute. As the saying goes… empty vessels make most noise.

OK, so starting with my comments on this thread, challenge me .

A growing number of fans… How many? 3, 40, 1000?

On your previous lack of ambition whine-athon, you made a lot of claims, and I think you were asked to deliver your thoughts / ideas… tumbleweed.

How about some constructive thoughts? Other than the board/owners/CEO/office cat/tea lady need to go…

I mean, a person of your undoubted panache and business acumen should no problems supporting progress with some insightful ideas that nobody else dared dream of…

Well if your want a specific number, you could conduct a survey . But reading social media on dons and rovers pages, the discontent among fans is growing, with the board being the main point of contention .

OK, other than that  what SPECIFIC claims did I make that you would like to challenge ?

I'll also repeat a question I asked further up, which no one can or has yet answered  .

When was the last time blunt or brammall gave an interview ? Because I'm not sure they ever have .

I’m going on your various rants over the past week. You have offered nothing by way of ideas and solutions. It’s the easiest thing in the world to sit and complain.

Why not request a meeting with the club to air your grievances and discuss solutions? I’m sure SM could speak to GB.

Or write to them?
Or attend a MTO meeting…

I doubt you will do any of the above because you would fall flat on your face.

In the past, Rovers’ fans have achieved a lot… from Raise The Roof to taking on Richardson…

If you’re that discombobulated, set up a protest.

Why don’t YOU conduct a survey to back up your claims.

Again, what SPECIFIC claims ?

Stop dodging the issue. You’ve made a bunch of inflammatory statements and have provided no substance.

No ambition, running the club into the ground… your words exactly… specific enough I feel to warrant some evidence and proof.

[the vicar]

Give me strength. Do you not recall pre pandemic meet the owners events? Would you want to give interviews to people who feel the need to give you a verbal kicking at the drop of a hat? I wouldn’t.

I expect to be informed by the powers that be

Informed about what?

Ok are you a member of a club other than the Rovers.  If so you would know IF you are a member of the said club the committee information it’s members as of things that go on in the club do they not.  Well we are all if we buy a season ticket are all members th this club

Rovers isn't a club it's a limited company. The last club to still be a club was Nottingham Forest and they stopped being one in 1986.

oh ok I thought it was DONCASTER ROVERS FOOTBALL CLUB IM SORRY IF IM WRONG OR ARE YOU WRONG

I'm just pointing out that it's a club in name only, like every other league club. It's not a member's club with member's club rules.

And before you start claiming that I'm 'bullying' you, I'd have pointed it out whoever had said it.

ok so why does TB, GB keep saying we are all a family and and if you are a season ticket holder you are a member of this club and they want all fans to get closer to the club there words not mine or yours GW

[Glyn_Wigley]

I haven't seen or heard them say that so I don't know.

[BobG]

There is no definition of 'fan' or of the rights the undefined 'fan' has. Quite clearly therefore, a fan has zero 'rights'. None. None at all. He can buy the product on sale if he wants to. Or he can walk on by. That's the lot.

As an undefined thing, being a fan is assumed to be an emotional attachment to something or someone. A rock group for example. And football 'fans', like rock group 'fans', are entitled to absolutely sod all except whatever performance the object of their adulation chooses to put on sale.

Of course, fans of Doncaster Rovers are entitled to tell the Board of Directors what to to. They are entitled to spend the Directors money for them. They are entitled to entirely forget the huge peril the continued existance of Doncaster Rovers has twice suffered in the last 25 years. These 'fans' are entitled to ignore any and all the steps that wisdom suggests be taken to ensure the future continued existance of their idol. These 'fans' are entitled to have no gratitude whatsoever to those who have secured the continuing existance of the object of their adulation. But then, these 'fans', their lack of knowledge so huge, that the vacuum inside their heads means no bugger pays any attention to them anyway.

BobG

[PDX_Rover]

Well said Bob.

[GazLaz]

Give me strength. Do you not recall pre pandemic meet the owners events? Would you want to give interviews to people who feel the need to give you a verbal kicking at the drop of a hat? I wouldn’t.

I expect to be informed by the powers that be

Informed about what?

Ok are you a member of a club other than the Rovers.  If so you would know IF you are a member of the said club the committee information it’s members as of things that go on in the club do they not.  Well we are all if we buy a season ticket are all members th this club

You didn’t answer the question. What do you want to know?

[Redandwhite]

There is no definition of 'fan' or of the rights the undefined 'fan' has. Quite clearly therefore, a fan has zero 'rights'. None. None at all. He can buy the product on sale if he wants to. Or he can walk on by. That's the lot.

As an undefined thing, being a fan is assumed to be an emotional attachment to something or someone. A rock group for example. And football 'fans', like rock group 'fans', are entitled to absolutely sod all except whatever performance the object of their adulation chooses to put on sale.

Of course, fans of Doncaster Rovers are entitled to tell the Board of Directors what to to. They are entitled to spend the Directors money for them. They are entitled to entirely forget the huge peril the continued existance of Doncaster Rovers has twice suffered in the last 25 years. These 'fans' are entitled to ignore any and all the steps that wisdom suggests be taken to ensure the future continued existance of their idol. These 'fans' are entitled to have no gratitude whatsoever to those who have secured the continuing existance of the object of their adulation. But then, these 'fans', their lack of knowledge so huge, that the vacuum inside their heads means no bugger pays any attention to them anyway.

BobG

Drfc fans were here long before the current custodians of the club, and will be here long after .
The board of directors isn't the club  and the club isn't the board of directors .

[Redandwhite]

I’m sorry, but the powers that be don’t have to tell you anything. If you’re not happy with that you can always vote with your feet.

please don’t talk so silly as I have supported Rovers since I was 8 missing Berry few games home and away, and now 70, and have now seen enough to tell me over them years all is not what it seems at a club, and most of the blind sided fans that believe everything they are told but you WILL LEARN over the years.  And why are all you Rovers wets always telling loyal Rovers fans to ether vote with there feet or go and support someone else.  If you all had your way we would not have any fans other that you all. Then see how long you would have a clue to support.  So please please don’t talk so silly

Well said vicar

I doubt you’re even a fan of Rovers. Sanctimonious child.

You've brought nothing whatsoever to this discussion, you can't even muster the brain power to counteract any points or questions .

I don’t have to counter any points or questions. You’ve been bitching about everything the past week and provide no evidence when challenged. Zilch. Zero. Squat.

Instead you make veiled threats. I’d love to know who you are because I reckon you’re somebody’s stooge.

. Good one .

It’s true though. Scratch your surface and you have nothing of substance to contribute. As the saying goes… empty vessels make most noise.

OK, so starting with my comments on this thread, challenge me .

A growing number of fans… How many? 3, 40, 1000?

On your previous lack of ambition whine-athon, you made a lot of claims, and I think you were asked to deliver your thoughts / ideas… tumbleweed.

How about some constructive thoughts? Other than the board/owners/CEO/office cat/tea lady need to go…

I mean, a person of your undoubted panache and business acumen should no problems supporting progress with some insightful ideas that nobody else dared dream of…

Well if your want a specific number, you could conduct a survey . But reading social media on dons and rovers pages, the discontent among fans is growing, with the board being the main point of contention .

OK, other than that  what SPECIFIC claims did I make that you would like to challenge ?

I'll also repeat a question I asked further up, which no one can or has yet answered  .

When was the last time blunt or brammall gave an interview ? Because I'm not sure they ever have .

I’m going on your various rants over the past week. You have offered nothing by way of ideas and solutions. It’s the easiest thing in the world to sit and complain.

Why not request a meeting with the club to air your grievances and discuss solutions? I’m sure SM could speak to GB.

Or write to them?
Or attend a MTO meeting…

I doubt you will do any of the above because you would fall flat on your face.

In the past, Rovers’ fans have achieved a lot… from Raise The Roof to taking on Richardson…

If you’re that discombobulated, set up a protest.

Why don’t YOU conduct a survey to back up your claims.

Again, what SPECIFIC claims ?

Stop dodging the issue. You’ve made a bunch of inflammatory statements and have provided no substance.

No ambition, running the club into the ground… your words exactly… specific enough I feel to warrant some evidence and proof.

OK, so since the man who had drive and passion for the club was forced out . The club has gone backwards and stagnated at best .
No progress whatsoever .

What actions have they done to drive interest, passion  and excitement?

Why hasn't the marquis and whiteman money been reinvested ? After all  that money was extra to the budget , but no its gone .

When was the last interview blunt or brammall gave? You can't answer because they haven't given one .
Do they even attend games ?

[the vicar]

There is no definition of 'fan' or of the rights the undefined 'fan' has. Quite clearly therefore, a fan has zero 'rights'. None. None at all. He can buy the product on sale if he wants to. Or he can walk on by. That's the lot.

As an undefined thing, being a fan is assumed to be an emotional attachment to something or someone. A rock group for example. And football 'fans', like rock group 'fans', are entitled to absolutely sod all except whatever performance the object of their adulation chooses to put on sale.

Of course, fans of Doncaster Rovers are entitled to tell the Board of Directors what to to. They are entitled to spend the Directors money for them. They are entitled to entirely forget the huge peril the continued existance of Doncaster Rovers has twice suffered in the last 25 years. These 'fans' are entitled to ignore any and all the steps that wisdom suggests be taken to ensure the future continued existance of their idol. These 'fans' are entitled to have no gratitude whatsoever to those who have secured the continuing existance of the object of their adulation. But then, these 'fans', their lack of knowledge so huge, that the vacuum inside their heads means no bugger pays any attention to them anyway.

BobG

oh

There is no definition of 'fan' or of the rights the undefined 'fan' has. Quite clearly therefore, a fan has zero 'rights'. None. None at all. He can buy the product on sale if he wants to. Or he can walk on by. That's the lot.

As an undefined thing, being a fan is assumed to be an emotional attachment to something or someone. A rock group for example. And football 'fans', like rock group 'fans', are entitled to absolutely sod all except whatever performance the object of their adulation chooses to put on sale.

Of course, fans of Doncaster Rovers are entitled to tell the Board of Directors what to to. They are entitled to spend the Directors money for them. They are entitled to entirely forget the huge peril the continued existance of Doncaster Rovers has twice suffered in the last 25 years. These 'fans' are entitled to ignore any and all the steps that wisdom suggests be taken to ensure the future continued existance of their idol. These 'fans' are entitled to have no gratitude whatsoever to those who have secured the continuing existance of the object of their adulation. But then, these 'fans', their lack of knowledge so huge, that the vacuum inside their heads means no bugger pays any attention to them anyway.

BobG

oh yes Wikipedia one of the most useless and most changeable things on the net lol

[the vicar]

Well said Bob.

can I just say Big Bob might not need you to hold his pants up he can do it him self lol

[BobG]

Vicar: I used to think you were interesting, articulate and worth reading...


Quote from: Redandwhite on Today at 09:12:52 am

    Quote from: BobG on Today at 01:07:56 am


        Drfc fans were here long before the current custodians of the club, and will be here long after .
        The board of directors isn't the club  and the club isn't the board of directors .



Some of that is true redandwhite. But not all of it. You are presuming that the body of 'fans', (an animal that has no defined existance and no rights) live forever? They die, lose interest, move away, just like Directors do. So those who make up this body of 'fans' change just as much as Directors so they cannot have been here long before or long after the Board. Indeed, it was the Board that set up the club before its first 'fans' ever entered its premises.

As for your second point about the Board not being the club and the club not being the Board, isn't it wonderful offering us a sound bite syllogism that has neither accuracy nor validity...

In any business, legal and corporate sense, the club is its assets, its staff, its shareholders and its Board of Directors. That's it. That is the sum total of what constitutes this and any other similarly constituted club. Of course, any sensible manager would also include its customers as having influence. Without them no business would survive so they do have a stake. But I shop at Tesco. I'm a regular customer. Have been for years. So am I, as you clearly imply Redandwhite, and the millions like me, part of Tesco? More important than the Tesco Board of Directors?  More long lasting than the Tesco Board? Clearly not. So why should a customer of the Rovers have a status different to that enjoyed by customers of Tesco? Of Asda? Of the Shell garage down the road? Customers, of anything, have absolutely no rights beyond those mandated by law. They have no power as individuals. And, as individuals, they have no influence and certainly no control whatsoever. Tesco, the Rovers, the Shell garage, all are made up of their assets, their staff, their shareholders and their Board of Directors. They are all exactly the same. If you choose to invest your emotional capital in any one of them, it's your choice. But it gives you absolutely no special status. And no rights whatsoever.

BobG

[roversdude]

Bob you’re wasting your time

[DRNaith]

I’m sorry, but the powers that be don’t have to tell you anything. If you’re not happy with that you can always vote with your feet.

please don’t talk so silly as I have supported Rovers since I was 8 missing Berry few games home and away, and now 70, and have now seen enough to tell me over them years all is not what it seems at a club, and most of the blind sided fans that believe everything they are told but you WILL LEARN over the years.  And why are all you Rovers wets always telling loyal Rovers fans to ether vote with there feet or go and support someone else.  If you all had your way we would not have any fans other that you all. Then see how long you would have a clue to support.  So please please don’t talk so silly

Well said vicar

I doubt you’re even a fan of Rovers. Sanctimonious child.

You've brought nothing whatsoever to this discussion, you can't even muster the brain power to counteract any points or questions .

I don’t have to counter any points or questions. You’ve been bitching about everything the past week and provide no evidence when challenged. Zilch. Zero. Squat.

Instead you make veiled threats. I’d love to know who you are because I reckon you’re somebody’s stooge.

. Good one .

It’s true though. Scratch your surface and you have nothing of substance to contribute. As the saying goes… empty vessels make most noise.

OK, so starting with my comments on this thread, challenge me .

A growing number of fans… How many? 3, 40, 1000?

On your previous lack of ambition whine-athon, you made a lot of claims, and I think you were asked to deliver your thoughts / ideas… tumbleweed.

How about some constructive thoughts? Other than the board/owners/CEO/office cat/tea lady need to go…

I mean, a person of your undoubted panache and business acumen should no problems supporting progress with some insightful ideas that nobody else dared dream of…

Well if your want a specific number, you could conduct a survey . But reading social media on dons and rovers pages, the discontent among fans is growing, with the board being the main point of contention .

OK, other than that  what SPECIFIC claims did I make that you would like to challenge ?

I'll also repeat a question I asked further up, which no one can or has yet answered  .

When was the last time blunt or brammall gave an interview ? Because I'm not sure they ever have .

I’m going on your various rants over the past week. You have offered nothing by way of ideas and solutions. It’s the easiest thing in the world to sit and complain.

Why not request a meeting with the club to air your grievances and discuss solutions? I’m sure SM could speak to GB.

Or write to them?
Or attend a MTO meeting…

I doubt you will do any of the above because you would fall flat on your face.

In the past, Rovers’ fans have achieved a lot… from Raise The Roof to taking on Richardson…

If you’re that discombobulated, set up a protest.

Why don’t YOU conduct a survey to back up your claims.

Again, what SPECIFIC claims ?

Stop dodging the issue. You’ve made a bunch of inflammatory statements and have provided no substance.

No ambition, running the club into the ground… your words exactly… specific enough I feel to warrant some evidence and proof.

OK, so since the man who had drive and passion for the club was forced out . The club has gone backwards and stagnated at best .
No progress whatsoever .

What actions have they done to drive interest, passion  and excitement?

Why hasn't the marquis and whiteman money been reinvested ? After all  that money was extra to the budget , but no its gone .

When was the last interview blunt or brammall gave? You can't answer because they haven't given one .
Do they even attend games ?

Why do you continue to say "forced out"? My understanding is that he ran out of available funds to support the club and so stepped away when he couldn't (allegedly) spend other people's money.

I have no interest in arguing how good or bad he is, but the whole "forced out" story seemed to have been put to bed a long time ago.

[EasyforDennis]

I’m sorry, but the powers that be don’t have to tell you anything. If you’re not happy with that you can always vote with your feet.

please don’t talk so silly as I have supported Rovers since I was 8 missing Berry few games home and away, and now 70, and have now seen enough to tell me over them years all is not what it seems at a club, and most of the blind sided fans that believe everything they are told but you WILL LEARN over the years.  And why are all you Rovers wets always telling loyal Rovers fans to ether vote with there feet or go and support someone else.  If you all had your way we would not have any fans other that you all. Then see how long you would have a clue to support.  So please please don’t talk so silly

Well said vicar

I doubt you’re even a fan of Rovers. Sanctimonious child.

You've brought nothing whatsoever to this discussion, you can't even muster the brain power to counteract any points or questions .

I don’t have to counter any points or questions. You’ve been bitching about everything the past week and provide no evidence when challenged. Zilch. Zero. Squat.

Instead you make veiled threats. I’d love to know who you are because I reckon you’re somebody’s stooge.

. Good one .

It’s true though. Scratch your surface and you have nothing of substance to contribute. As the saying goes… empty vessels make most noise.

OK, so starting with my comments on this thread, challenge me .

A growing number of fans… How many? 3, 40, 1000?

On your previous lack of ambition whine-athon, you made a lot of claims, and I think you were asked to deliver your thoughts / ideas… tumbleweed.

How about some constructive thoughts? Other than the board/owners/CEO/office cat/tea lady need to go…

I mean, a person of your undoubted panache and business acumen should no problems supporting progress with some insightful ideas that nobody else dared dream of…

Well if your want a specific number, you could conduct a survey . But reading social media on dons and rovers pages, the discontent among fans is growing, with the board being the main point of contention .

OK, other than that  what SPECIFIC claims did I make that you would like to challenge ?

I'll also repeat a question I asked further up, which no one can or has yet answered  .

When was the last time blunt or brammall gave an interview ? Because I'm not sure they ever have .

I’m going on your various rants over the past week. You have offered nothing by way of ideas and solutions. It’s the easiest thing in the world to sit and complain.

Why not request a meeting with the club to air your grievances and discuss solutions? I’m sure SM could speak to GB.

Or write to them?
Or attend a MTO meeting…

I doubt you will do any of the above because you would fall flat on your face.

In the past, Rovers’ fans have achieved a lot… from Raise The Roof to taking on Richardson…

If you’re that discombobulated, set up a protest.

Why don’t YOU conduct a survey to back up your claims.

Again, what SPECIFIC claims ?

Stop dodging the issue. You’ve made a bunch of inflammatory statements and have provided no substance.

No ambition, running the club into the ground… your words exactly… specific enough I feel to warrant some evidence and proof.

OK, so since the man who had drive and passion for the club was forced out . The club has gone backwards and stagnated at best .
No progress whatsoever .

What actions have they done to drive interest, passion  and excitement?

Why hasn't the marquis and whiteman money been reinvested ? After all  that money was extra to the budget , but no its gone .

When was the last interview blunt or brammall gave? You can't answer because they haven't given one .
Do they even attend games ?

Why do you continue to say "forced out"? My understanding is that he ran out of available funds to support the club and so stepped away when he couldn't (allegedly) spend other people's money.

I have no interest in arguing how good or bad he is, but the whole "forced out" story seemed to have been put to bed a long time ago.

Why couldn't you have just left it at.  "My understanding is that he ran out of available funds to support the club and so stepped away."

[BobG]

Bob you’re wasting your time

Yes. You are quite right RD. I suppose I still must live in hope... Or perhaps it's my lot to believe it utterly imcomprehensible that anyone can be born, educated and live a life with a brain as massively and irretrievably stupid as the posts of some on here would have me believe. I'm all for debate, alternative views and the resulting new insights. Those who remember my old Dad may remember he was big on the idea of 'Thesis, antithesis, synthesis!'. So am I. It's a great way to increase my own knowledge. But it presupposes discussion and debate based on reason, logic an linkage of ideas to form coherent theories and new insights. Such insight, such synthesis, becomes impossible when half wits cannot escape their own dogma and emotion and so continue to monotonously repeat ad nauseam their unevidenced, unsupported and uninformed claptrap. Tony Blair failed us all.....

BobG

[Pancho Regan]

Give me strength. Do you not recall pre pandemic meet the owners events? Would you want to give interviews to people who feel the need to give you a verbal kicking at the drop of a hat? I wouldn’t.

I expect to be informed by the powers that be

Informed about what?

Ok are you a member of a club other than the Rovers.  If so you would know IF you are a member of the said club the committee information it’s members as of things that go on in the club do they not.  Well we are all if we buy a season ticket are all members th this club

What the hell are you talking about?
You claim to be a Rovers fan and then spend all your time criticising the club. That’s if I understand your barely intelligible ramblings.

[Pancho Regan]

I’m sorry, but the powers that be don’t have to tell you anything. If you’re not happy with that you can always vote with your feet.

please don’t talk so silly as I have supported Rovers since I was 8 missing Berry few games home and away, and now 70, and have now seen enough to tell me over them years all is not what it seems at a club, and most of the blind sided fans that believe everything they are told but you WILL LEARN over the years.  And why are all you Rovers wets always telling loyal Rovers fans to ether vote with there feet or go and support someone else.  If you all had your way we would not have any fans other that you all. Then see how long you would have a clue to support.  So please please don’t talk so silly

Well said vicar

Well said?!
Absolutely hilarious.