Thats me done

[mattco]

Wellens can't get us, going. He can shout and swear at the players all day but he doesn't seem to have the tactical nous to get the players acting as if
they want to win. Most clubs in our poition after 15 games would bite the bullet, admit facts, and change the manager. If they don't then they are simply delaying the inevitable.

[andyst79]

I'm not a fan of sacking managers Willy nilly but it's the manner of these defeats which I find hard to digest. It's the same old excuses week after week , which in fairness had some merit earlier on in the season  but are now wearing thin. I'd be happy to give Wellens until Xmas to turn things around but in the meantime sounding out possible alternatives to come straight in if necessary. The head of recruitment needs to step up and identify what personnel we need irrespective of who's in charge

[drfchound]

So you are saying that we should have expected to be utterly humiliated today? Only I wish you'd said that at 2:30 and saved me watching it.

Genuine question, BST; how on Earth did you manage to watch it?

It's a matter of pride SS. My phosophy had always been that if you can't take the low points, you don't deserve the successes.

I meant how did you manage to watch it when it wasn't on iFollow?

It was on iFollow.

Not in the UK though. You must be out of the country at the moment.

Wouldn't an ISPN do the trick?

Is that legal and do you still have to pay?
I would be interested in doing it if so.

[MachoMadness]

The problems run deeper than Wellens. I do question what his process is for coaching players but the recruitment setup is all wrong. We're signing players Younger's seen on YouTube. There's no sign from anyone at the club that they even acknowledge we're in a mess. What is this long term plan we're working to? I refuse to believe that the wages of Andy Butler, Omar Bogle and Ed Williams are crippling the finances to the point where we could only sign the players we've signed.

I'm just getting increasingly disillusioned with this idea that we're just unlucky. If - when - we go down it won't be down to luck, it'll be down to the higher ups making bad decisions.

[MachoMadness]

So you are saying that we should have expected to be utterly humiliated today? Only I wish you'd said that at 2:30 and saved me watching it.

Genuine question, BST; how on Earth did you manage to watch it?

It's a matter of pride SS. My phosophy had always been that if you can't take the low points, you don't deserve the successes.

I meant how did you manage to watch it when it wasn't on iFollow?

It was on iFollow.

Not in the UK though. You must be out of the country at the moment.

Wouldn't an ISPN do the trick?

Is that legal and do you still have to pay?
I would be interested in doing it if so.

If he means a VPN it is legal but against ifollow terms of service (but realistically they're not going to do owt). You do still have to pay. It just tricks the system into thinking you're abroad.

[Campsall rover]

Agree. Piss off Wellens. Absolutely clueless.

Have some dignity and resign tonight. The club are paying you and you don't deserve and are not earning the money!

So who do we get to replace him?  Our home form is reasonable. It is away we wer having problems.
No good calling for the managers head after each defeat.
No one wanted him out last Saturday or on Tuesday night. 

Sound lets stick to how its going then you absolute moron!

Is there any need for that abuse. I just gave my opinion on the situation.
The only moron is you for using that word.  Grow up. Are you not capable of having a sensible debate.
Obviously not.

Abuse! Haha brilliant. I couldnt give a toss pal. You support this sh!t. Good on you. Weve had this out many times before. If you wanna lose you stick to your guns theres a good lad.

If you read my post clever dick I said, who would we replace him with. It was a question. Was that too complicated for you to understand that? The rest of the post was a statement of fact on opinions by others posted on this forum after the Cheltenham and Cambridge matches.

Where have i said in any post that I am happy with our performances. You really need to do your home work before spouting off.
I suggest you go through all the threads over the last week and read all my posts.

[Bentley Bullet]

I think the owners need to inject more money into the club to sign a striker and/or more attacking options.

So that will be in January then or are you thinking of another free agent? Out of interest how much do you think should be invested to procure said striker/and or more attackers?

How about similar investment to local giants Rotherham?

Put a figure on it BB
How much did Rotherham get after relegation last season?
Are they in any debt?
What is their wage bill?

Why should I put a figure on it? What difference or point would that be, seeing as I don't know. It's not my job to know either, it's the club's job.

As for the wage bill, the one I saw a while back put our weekly player's wage bill at around 57K and Rothrhams at around 100K.

Apparently, they are also financially secure.

Are those official figures? - do you have a link?

https://salarysport.com/football/sky-bet-league-one/doncaster-rovers/

https://footballleaguefc.com/rotherham-united-2player-wages/

[andyst79]

Nonsense

[vaya]

I think the owners need to inject more money into the club to sign a striker and/or more attacking options.

So that will be in January then or are you thinking of another free agent? Out of interest how much do you think should be invested to procure said striker/and or more attackers?

How about similar investment to local giants Rotherham?

Put a figure on it BB
How much did Rotherham get after relegation last season?
Are they in any debt?
What is their wage bill?

Why should I put a figure on it? What difference or point would that be, seeing as I don't know. It's not my job to know either, it's the club's job.

As for the wage bill, the one I saw a while back put our weekly player's wage bill at around 57K and Rothrhams at around 100K.

Apparently, they are also financially secure.

Are those official figures? - do you have a link?

https://salarysport.com/football/sky-bet-league-one/doncaster-rovers/

https://footballleaguefc.com/rotherham-united-2player-wages/

So no then. Thanks.

[Bentley Bullet]

You're welcome.

[ravenrover]

I think the owners need to inject more money into the club to sign a striker and/or more attacking options.

So that will be in January then or are you thinking of another free agent? Out of interest how much do you think should be invested to procure said striker/and or more attackers?

How about similar investment to local giants Rotherham?

Put a figure on it BB
How much did Rotherham get after relegation last season?
Are they in any debt?
What is their wage bill?

Why should I put a figure on it? What difference or point would that be, seeing as I don't know. It's not my job to know either, it's the club's job.

As for the wage bill, the one I saw a while back put our weekly player's wage bill at around 57K and Rothrhams at around 100K.

Apparently, they are also financially secure.

A sweeping statement BB, you should be able to come uo with a figure you have in mind even if it is only what the Rotherham figure is, whatever that may be

[Bentley Bullet]

OK then, let's make a sweeping statement! Let's say we need at least the same investment that we had the last time we were promoted to the Championship, one that will hopefully just keep us out of the relegation zone.

[Lesonthewest]

Agree. Piss off Wellens. Absolutely clueless.

Have some dignity and resign tonight. The club are paying you and you don't deserve and are not earning the money!

So who do we get to replace him?  Our home form is reasonable. It is away we are having problems.
No good calling for the managers head after each defeat.
No one wanted him out last Saturday or on Tuesday night. 

But they are now. It can't be much worse.

Agree. Piss off Wellens. Absolutely clueless.

Have some dignity and resign tonight. The club are paying you and you don't deserve and are not earning the money!

So who do we get to replace him?  Our home form is reasonable. It is away we wer having problems.
No good calling for the managers head after each defeat.
No one wanted him out last Saturday or on Tuesday night. 

Sound lets stick to how its going then you absolute moron!

Is there any need for that abuse. I just gave my opinion on the situation.
The only moron is you for using that word.  Grow up. Are you not capable of having a sensible debate.
Obviously not.

Oh my god, pot, kettle.

[Lesonthewest]

All the cranks will be out tonight on here, not been about since the Ipswich game

Not really, just fans being realistic.

[DRNaith]

We're simply not a sacking club.

The last manager to be sacked wasn't sacked for football reasons, but for business reasons, where someone convinced the board to try something different.

Regardless of whether I want Wellens sacked or not, I just don't think we're going to see him sacked and he sure as heck ain't going to be poached anytime soon!

[Lesonthewest]

The main concern is the crap he's signed. Williams, Dodoo, Hiwula, Knoyle, Cukur, Barlow, Gardener, Smith. All wouldn't have been near our reserve team 2 years ago never mind first team.

2 years ago we were spending a lot more money!

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I seem to remember a lot of fans complaining about not spending a few years ago.

[StocksArmy]

Agree. Piss off Wellens. Absolutely clueless.

Have some dignity and resign tonight. The club are paying you and you don't deserve and are not earning the money!

So who do we get to replace him?  Our home form is reasonable. It is away we wer having problems.
No good calling for the managers head after each defeat.
No one wanted him out last Saturday or on Tuesday night. 

Sound lets stick to how its going then you absolute moron!

Is there any need for that abuse. I just gave my opinion on the situation.
The only moron is you for using that word.  Grow up. Are you not capable of having a sensible debate.
Obviously not.

Abuse! Haha brilliant. I couldnt give a toss pal. You support this sh!t. Good on you. Weve had this out many times before. If you wanna lose you stick to your guns theres a good lad.

If you read my post clever dick I said, who would we replace him with. It was a question. Was that too complicated for you to understand that? The rest of the post was a statement of fact on opinions by others posted on this forum after the Cheltenham and Cambridge matches.

Where have i said in any post that I am happy with our performances. You really need to do your home work before spouting off.
I suggest you go through all the threads over the last week and read all my posts.

I cant be arsed to read your posts "clever dick"

[Prez]

We're simply not a sacking club.

The last manager to be sacked wasn't sacked for football reasons, but for business reasons, where someone convinced the board to try something different.

Regardless of whether I want Wellens sacked or not, I just don't think we're going to see him sacked and he sure as heck ain't going to be poached anytime soon!

Dickov was sacked for football reasons surely?

[Lesonthewest]

We’ve played today without 5 players that would be in the starting 11.
We’ve got nobody in the squad to replace them with sufficiently.
A new manager will have the same problem

I think the owners need to inject more money into the club to sign a striker and/or more attacking options.

So that will be in January then or are you thinking of another free agent? Out of interest how much do you think should be invested to procure said striker/and or more attackers?

Enough to steer us clear us away from relegation, the choice is theirs.

[dickos1]

The main concern is the crap he's signed. Williams, Dodoo, Hiwula, Knoyle, Cukur, Barlow, Gardener, Smith. All wouldn't have been near our reserve team 2 years ago never mind first team.

2 years ago we were spending a lot more money!

[/quote
I seem to remember a lot of fans complaining about not spending a few years ago.

Irrelevent

Have a look at our wage bill under mCcann and look at it now
Obvious that the players won’t be the same quality

[dickos1]

All the cranks will be out tonight on here, not been about since the Ipswich game

Not really, just fans being realistic.

It’s not realistic to sack a manager after 15 games I’m afraid

[Lesonthewest]

It's okay we'll play another shit team at home sometime soon and win and paper over all the cracks.

MK dons, morecambe, Cheltenham, Cambridge are crap are they?

Yes, apart from MK.

[Lesonthewest]

So you are saying that we should have expected to be utterly humiliated today? Only I wish you'd said that at 2:30 and saved me watching it.

Not for the first time this season either.

[DRNaith]

We're simply not a sacking club.

The last manager to be sacked wasn't sacked for football reasons, but for business reasons, where someone convinced the board to try something different.

Regardless of whether I want Wellens sacked or not, I just don't think we're going to see him sacked and he sure as heck ain't going to be poached anytime soon!

Dickov was sacked for football reasons surely?

I stand corrected.

[drfchound]

So you are saying that we should have expected to be utterly humiliated today? Only I wish you'd said that at 2:30 and saved me watching it.

People would often have done something different, with the benefit of hindsight.

[Lesonthewest]

All the cranks will be out tonight on here, not been about since the Ipswich game

Not really, just fans being realistic.

It’s not realistic to sack a manager after 15 games I’m afraid

Of course it is, if you are losing every single game away from home with no sign of it changing, signing players clearly not good enough, then it is I'm afraid.

[dickos1]

He signed players like Barlow and gardener because we couldn’t even fill the bench.
His main signings have been good signings..

Take 5 players out of any starting 11 and you’re going to struggle when you’ve got a squad as lightweight as ours.

A new manager would still have this lightweight squad with 5 of the starting 11 missing

[ColinDouglasHandshake]

'His main signings have been good signings'

 

What a load of shite.

Galbraith is the exception.

[Filo]

'His main signings have been good signings'

 

What a load of shite.

Galbraith is the exception.

Galbraith will be recalled in January, Man Utd will not want him ruining here

[StocksArmy]

Not only was it a horror show on the pitch today i thought the away support was appalling. What an absolute set of obnoxious wan£ers on show. Wasnt even there for the football more than half of them.