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sha66y

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Adverts on telly, what’s happening?
« on November 16, 2021, 08:42:15 pm by sha66y »
Nearly every advert on TV has a mixed race family in it, surely to god that doesn’t represent anything reasonably normal other than patronising the coloured folks!



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Muttley

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Re: Adverts on telly, what’s happening?
« Reply #1 on November 16, 2021, 08:55:19 pm by Muttley »
"coloured"  :ermm:

Says it all,really.

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« Reply #2 on November 16, 2021, 10:01:08 pm by mugnapper »
Nearly every advert on TV has a mixed race family in it, surely to god that doesn’t represent anything reasonably normal other than patronising the coloured folks!
I think you'd get a more positive response posting this on a Yorkshire CCC forum.

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« Reply #3 on November 16, 2021, 10:15:45 pm by normal rules »
Nearly every advert on TV has a mixed race family in it, surely to god that doesn’t represent anything reasonably normal other than patronising the coloured folks!

Shaggy, you were onto something with your original point. But that c word is classed as a racial slur in many parts of the world. Including the uk. Worthy of modification imho, and lesson learnt.

Glyn_Wigley

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« Reply #4 on November 16, 2021, 10:24:17 pm by Glyn_Wigley »
That's nothing. 65% of them are gay too. ;)

phil old leake

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« Reply #5 on November 16, 2021, 10:57:23 pm by phil old leake »
sha66y choice of words out of date but you make a valid point

Inclusivity has gone mad.  When I was a lad.  Many many moons ago no one gave a monkeys about whether superman or Batman or any other super hero had a partner of any kind it was fictional

Why have Disney suddenly decided to give cartoon characters sexuality. It’s absolute nonsense

I can only assume that all this wokeism is going to continue to take over the world



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« Reply #6 on November 16, 2021, 11:03:36 pm by SydneyRover »

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« Reply #7 on November 16, 2021, 11:07:02 pm by tommy toes »
Anyone seen The Larkins?
(You're lucky if you haven't btw)

It's set in the 1950's and Charlie (played by Philip Franks in the original) is now a black guy who marries one of the daughters.
This is 1950's Britain and his race is never mentioned by anyone, when in the real world prejudice was rife and there'd have been hell on.

The headmistress of the local school is a black Asian, again this was an impossibility back then, and the guy who plays an ex Brigadeer in the British Army is the same.

I'm all for diversity but this load of nonsense, just lazily parachuting people of colour in without addressing it, is just ridiculous and does nothing foster inclusivity, which I imagine was the intention.
I'll admit I might be missing the point, as this is a fantasy drama, where you should maybe suspend belief, and the heroes of which are a law breaking, tax dodging family who are a complete disgrace.
But still ....
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« Reply #8 on November 16, 2021, 11:09:16 pm by scawsby steve »
sha66y choice of words out of date but you make a valid point

Inclusivity has gone mad.  When I was a lad.  Many many moons ago no one gave a monkeys about whether superman or Batman or any other super hero had a partner of any kind it was fictional

Why have Disney suddenly decided to give cartoon characters sexuality. It’s absolute nonsense

I can only assume that all this wokeism is going to continue to take over the world

Totally agree, Phil. The OP wasn't racist, it was an observation of what is an obvious agenda that isn't representative of how things are at this present time.

If they're suggesting that this is how things should be in family life, then I'd say they're being deeply disrespectful, particularly to black people.

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Re: Adverts on telly, what’s happening?
« Reply #9 on November 16, 2021, 11:15:43 pm by Bentley Bullet »
We are becoming a pure woke society that is so clean it's dirty.

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« Reply #10 on November 16, 2021, 11:48:24 pm by Bentley Bullet »
Might I add, we will be much worse under a Britain Surrendering Together society than a British Bulldog one.

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« Reply #11 on November 16, 2021, 11:56:25 pm by SydneyRover »
We are becoming a pure woke society that is so clean it's dirty.

I think the logic behind a change of culture of this type is to bypass those that find change difficult and help the younger ones that will accept a new normal where it doesn't matter what one looks like or where you are from it's how you help society to progress.

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« Reply #12 on November 17, 2021, 12:27:10 am by River Don »
It's become a fashion with advertising to feature mixed race families. These things go through phases. I remember when nearly advert had a hapless idiot husband who was always stupid and a smart wife who was always right.

It's the brands that want to make a statement about their values, Kellogs aren't sexist. McDonalds isn't racist. And in both cases we're modern brands hoping to appeal to a younger demographic. They will have all the data that tells them this will appeal to the consumers they want to attract.

If it upsets you, not to worry. It merely confirms you're past it and these businesses are no longer interested in you.

SydneyRover

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« Reply #13 on November 17, 2021, 12:30:18 am by SydneyRover »
It's become a fashion with advertising to feature mixed race families. These things go through phases. I remember when nearly advert had a hapless idiot husband who was always stupid and a smart wife who was always right.

It's the brands that want to make a statement about their values, Kellogs aren't sexist. McDonalds isn't racist. And in both cases we're modern brands hoping to appeal to a younger demographic. They will have all the data that tells them this will appeal to the consumers they want to attract.

If it upsets you, not to worry. It merely confirms you're past it and these businesses are no longer interested in you.

that about sums it up RD, we are often sating to each other, they're not aimed at us

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« Reply #14 on November 17, 2021, 12:46:17 am by Glyn_Wigley »
It's become a fashion with advertising to feature mixed race families. These things go through phases. I remember when nearly advert had a hapless idiot husband who was always stupid and a smart wife who was always right.

It's the brands that want to make a statement about their values, Kellogs aren't sexist. McDonalds isn't racist. And in both cases we're modern brands hoping to appeal to a younger demographic. They will have all the data that tells them this will appeal to the consumers they want to attract.

If it upsets you, not to worry. It merely confirms you're past it and these businesses are no longer interested in you.

Companies don't include minorities in their ads to be politically correct, they do it because they want them to buy their crap. That's the one and only reason they pay to make the bloody adverts in the first place.

River Don

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« Reply #15 on November 17, 2021, 12:49:38 am by River Don »
Glyn, the one thing we can be sure of with marketing and advertising, is it's all about the money.

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« Reply #16 on November 17, 2021, 07:41:48 am by Axholme Lion »
Simple answer. Don't buy their woke shit product that you probably don't need or want in any case.

phil old leake

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« Reply #17 on November 17, 2021, 07:49:03 am by phil old leake »
It’s the same as all this blind casting

The same people then cry out when gay people aren’t portrayed by gay people or people in wheel chairs are played by the able bodied or roles as Jewish people aren’t played by Jews

Sometimes it even difficult to make comment in case the incorrect words or descriptions are used.


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« Reply #18 on November 17, 2021, 08:15:14 am by sha66y »
I think I’ll stick to calling them the “ coloured folk” because I know what the colour black looks like ( Darth Vador’s suit)
The coloured folk I’m referring to range from a very dark brown to a kind of warm coffee colour , none of which are unappealing to the eye…..so if you really insist on calling them black , feel free , but you do know your just being very silly and trying to belong in a world that is off kilter….

You have to seriously be racist minded to lump all the coloured folk into one bracket and call it black!

sha66y

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« Reply #19 on November 17, 2021, 08:16:03 am by sha66y »
"coloured"  :ermm:

Says it all,really.

And the word you would use is………..?

sha66y

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« Reply #20 on November 17, 2021, 08:16:47 am by sha66y »
Nearly every advert on TV has a mixed race family in it, surely to god that doesn’t represent anything reasonably normal other than patronising the coloured folks!
I think you'd get a more positive response posting this on a Yorkshire CCC forum.

Why?

sha66y

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« Reply #21 on November 17, 2021, 08:20:40 am by sha66y »
Nearly every advert on TV has a mixed race family in it, surely to god that doesn’t represent anything reasonably normal other than patronising the coloured folks!

Shaggy, you were onto something with your original point. But that c word is classed as a racial slur in many parts of the world. Including the uk. Worthy of modification imho, and lesson learnt.

NR , that C word is the only word available when the range is so vast within that particular spectrum, we break down the other colours like sky blue to midnight blue!

Yet fear to do this with brown people ….so we call them “ BLACK.” …. Can you not see how bad that is?
They are not black, they are beautiful swaths of brown!

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« Reply #22 on November 17, 2021, 08:46:43 am by KeithMyath »
Coloured, would in my eyes be fine had it not been used primarily to segregate people when racism was actually a legal standpoint. It has negative connotations to anyone it is used against, it’s used hand in hand with white supremacy. People of Colour I believe is the more accepted term.

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« Reply #23 on November 17, 2021, 09:04:52 am by SydneyRover »
Coloured, would in my eyes be fine had it not been used primarily to segregate people when racism was actually a legal standpoint. It has negative connotations to anyone it is used against, it’s used hand in hand with white supremacy. People of Colour I believe is the more accepted term.

I guess then, with the range so vast that we're all coloured.

sha66y

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« Reply #24 on November 17, 2021, 09:09:40 am by sha66y »
Coloured, would in my eyes be fine had it not been used primarily to segregate people when racism was actually a legal standpoint. It has negative connotations to anyone it is used against, it’s used hand in hand with white supremacy. People of Colour I believe is the more accepted term.

I don’t think we had segregation in the UK,

when I first saw a coloured family move in next door I didn’t feel I needed to define them as Black…the father was a rich chocolate colour and his wife Chichi slightly lighter, in fact it was a beautiful coffee colour, their 3 daughters are not the same colour , the oldest is darker like her father and the other 2 are close to their mother….

None of them are black!

They are all differing variations of brown, and when we as a society can stop pigeon holing and incorrectly labelling other folk, we may get some balance back…

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« Reply #25 on November 17, 2021, 09:15:54 am by belton rover »
Coloured, would in my eyes be fine had it not been used primarily to segregate people when racism was actually a legal standpoint. It has negative connotations to anyone it is used against, it’s used hand in hand with white supremacy. People of Colour I believe is the more accepted term.

I don’t think we had segregation in the UK,

when I first saw a coloured family move in next door I didn’t feel I needed to define them as Black…the father was a rich chocolate colour and his wife Chichi slightly lighter, in fact it was a beautiful coffee colour, their 3 daughters are not the same colour , the oldest is darker like her father and the other 2 are close to their mother….

None of them are black!

They are all differing variations of brown, and when we as a society can stop pigeon holing and incorrectly labelling other folk, we may get some balance back…
How would you describe yourself, Sha66y?

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« Reply #26 on November 17, 2021, 09:16:18 am by GazLaz »
Surely they just want to represent people who may buy their products, i.e every demographic. What’s the issue with it? Don’t you like seeing black people on TV?

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« Reply #27 on November 17, 2021, 09:25:53 am by KeithMyath »
Oddly the 2 main references for a persons skin colour is white or black, and neither of them is an actual colour. No person is entirely white and the same for black, So on that basis I am assuming, the terms of white/black are referencing the colour of skin more closely associated to, but not specifically. Having a colour grading system of every hue would be ridiculous.

In my eyes the only time you need to mention someone’s skin colour is if you have been asked to describe another persons physical characteristics, which would be a pretty rare occasion. Using it as a point of reference in this day and age is outdated at best.

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« Reply #28 on November 17, 2021, 09:27:21 am by MachoMadness »
I generally try to stay out of the off topic sewer these days, this thread is a reminder of why. f**king Dulux colour charting black people, did you get the calipers out and measure their skulls while you were at it? Lot of people in this thread saying woke with a hard r, as my wife says.

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« Reply #29 on November 17, 2021, 10:19:32 am by sha66y »
Coloured, would in my eyes be fine had it not been used primarily to segregate people when racism was actually a legal standpoint. It has negative connotations to anyone it is used against, it’s used hand in hand with white supremacy. People of Colour I believe is the more accepted term.

I don’t think we had segregation in the UK,

when I first saw a coloured family move in next door I didn’t feel I needed to define them as Black…the father was a rich chocolate colour and his wife Chichi slightly lighter, in fact it was a beautiful coffee colour, their 3 daughters are not the same colour , the oldest is darker like her father and the other 2 are close to their mother….

None of them are black!

They are all differing variations of brown, and when we as a society can stop pigeon holing and incorrectly labelling other folk, we may get some balance back…
How would you describe yourself, Sha66y?

A creamy sheen that goes a pinky brown a couple of times a year…..but not white, snow is white and I’m a better shade of cream…

 

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