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BVB

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Re: Player vaccinations in the EFL.
« Reply #30 on December 17, 2021, 10:56:05 am by BVB »
And "snowflakes" getting tested for the deadliest disease in the world to see if they are poorly. "snowflakes" look like they are scared of a sore throat.

What might be a sore throat for you and /or for more healthier people may be somewhat more life-threatening for people like my 93year old mother Nudga.
Everyone’s different and will react to viruses / threats to health in different ways.
I sincerely hope that omicron is less dangerous, but not going to refuse being vaccinated just to prove that point, or even risk putting my mother in hospital or even worse a coffin.
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« Reply #31 on December 17, 2021, 11:04:40 am by Nudga »
So her vaccines don't work then?

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« Reply #32 on December 17, 2021, 11:16:21 am by roverstillidie91 »
And "snowflakes" getting tested for the deadliest disease in the world to see if they are poorly. "snowflakes" look like they are scared of a sore throat.

What might be a sore throat for you and /or for more healthier people may be somewhat more life-threatening for people like my 93year old mother Nudga.
Everyone’s different and will react to viruses / threats to health in different ways.
I sincerely hope that omicron is less dangerous, but not going to refuse being vaccinated just to prove that point, or even risk putting my mother in hospital or even worse a coffin.
Cheers
BVB
The trouble is people like that think they are knowledgeable on the topic in conversation but in reality they don't know a thing about it but claim to be a so called expert

BVB

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« Reply #33 on December 17, 2021, 11:16:31 am by BVB »
If you mean has she caught covid and her vaccines have reduced the potential for her becoming ill, then I don’t know as luckily so far she has not become infected.

She wants to know when she can have her 4th jab, as she is very worried. But hey, you can ridicule her for being “sh*t scared”.


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« Reply #34 on December 17, 2021, 11:17:46 am by BVB »
And "snowflakes" getting tested for the deadliest disease in the world to see if they are poorly. "snowflakes" look like they are scared of a sore throat.

What might be a sore throat for you and /or for more healthier people may be somewhat more life-threatening for people like my 93year old mother Nudga.
Everyone’s different and will react to viruses / threats to health in different ways.
I sincerely hope that omicron is less dangerous, but not going to refuse being vaccinated just to prove that point, or even risk putting my mother in hospital or even worse a coffin.
Cheers
BVB
The trouble is people like that think they are knowledgeable on the topic in conversation but in reality they don't know a thing about it but claim to be a so called expert
That me or Nudga, 91?

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« Reply #35 on December 17, 2021, 11:22:38 am by roverstillidie91 »
And "snowflakes" getting tested for the deadliest disease in the world to see if they are poorly. "snowflakes" look like they are scared of a sore throat.

What might be a sore throat for you and /or for more healthier people may be somewhat more life-threatening for people like my 93year old mother Nudga.
Everyone’s different and will react to viruses / threats to health in different ways.
I sincerely hope that omicron is less dangerous, but not going to refuse being vaccinated just to prove that point, or even risk putting my mother in hospital or even worse a coffin.
Cheers
BVB
The trouble is people like that think they are knowledgeable on the topic in conversation but in reality they don't know a thing about it but claim to be a so called expert
That me or Nudga, 91?
Sorry the person you was responding to (Nudga)

Nudga

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« Reply #36 on December 17, 2021, 11:25:41 am by Nudga »
Please, show me where I've claimed I'm an expert.
I'm no more of an expert than you are.

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« Reply #37 on December 17, 2021, 11:27:33 am by SydneyRover »
Draytonian, on another thread:

''Going for my booster tomorrow, if it meant me and mine being safer than others I would go every week''

I with you Drayton, bravado doesn't come into it, just remember if you have a choice those interviewed in hospital on their death beds.

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« Reply #38 on December 17, 2021, 11:34:59 am by drfchound »
Draytonian, on another thread:

''Going for my booster tomorrow, if it meant me and mine being safer than others I would go every week''

I with you Drayton, bravado doesn't come into it, just remember if you have a choice those interviewed in hospital on their death beds.

What does that even mean.

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« Reply #39 on December 17, 2021, 11:43:52 am by Axholme Lion »
How many who voted on this want players vaccinated for the benefit of the player’s or just so their Saturday isn’t interrupted?

Why should the fans care about the players, when many players clearly don't have a problem spreading covid amongst the older and more vulnerable in the general population by not being vaccinated?

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« Reply #40 on December 17, 2021, 02:10:12 pm by DonnyOsmond »
I'm not surprised with the amount of players going to ground clutching at their chests and struggling to breath around Europe.

Such as who? Fleck, Eriksen and Wyke were all unvaccinated.

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« Reply #41 on December 17, 2021, 02:47:18 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
The clue is in the fact that most footballers are in their 20s. This is the age group that aren't generally getting vaccinated, and don't really give 2 f*cks about the virus.

I know lots of people in their 20s, and not a single one of them has had any jabs.

Same where i work. They don't care and aren't bothered if they infect older people. Hopefully they all get it and suffer.

You must attract them.

The only person I know closely who's refused the vaccine is 61. Every young person I know has stepped straight up for it.

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« Reply #42 on December 17, 2021, 02:49:43 pm by Axholme Lion »
The clue is in the fact that most footballers are in their 20s. This is the age group that aren't generally getting vaccinated, and don't really give 2 f*cks about the virus.

I know lots of people in their 20s, and not a single one of them has had any jabs.

Same where i work. They don't care and aren't bothered if they infect older people. Hopefully they all get it and suffer.

You must attract them.

The only person I know closely who's refused the vaccine is 61. Every young person I know has stepped straight up for it.

Well there's plenty of them out there. The worst one is out every weekend. Having a laugh today about his dad being taken to hospital because he couldn't breathe, maybe he should have had a jab?

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« Reply #43 on December 17, 2021, 04:54:29 pm by BVB »
Sounds like that lad needs more than just a jab

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« Reply #44 on December 17, 2021, 06:52:29 pm by scawsby steve »
The clue is in the fact that most footballers are in their 20s. This is the age group that aren't generally getting vaccinated, and don't really give 2 f*cks about the virus.

I know lots of people in their 20s, and not a single one of them has had any jabs.

Same where i work. They don't care and aren't bothered if they infect older people. Hopefully they all get it and suffer.

You must attract them.

The only person I know closely who's refused the vaccine is 61. Every young person I know has stepped straight up for it.

Unless you live in an alternative universe, that is utter b*ll*cks. Are you suggesting that all these young players are older guys?

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« Reply #45 on December 17, 2021, 06:56:06 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
I'm talking about people I personally know.

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« Reply #46 on December 17, 2021, 07:16:42 pm by scawsby steve »
I'm talking about people I personally know.

I accept that, but look at it logically. All of these youngsters that were having house parties and illegal raves during lockdown; can you honestly see them bothering to get jabbed?

Alternatively, are old people, most of whom are worried about this virus, going to refuse jabs?

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« Reply #47 on December 17, 2021, 07:35:14 pm by BVB »
I'm talking about people I personally know.

I accept that, but look at it logically. All of these youngsters that were having house parties and illegal raves during lockdown; can you honestly see them bothering to get jabbed?

Alternatively, are old people, most of whom are worried about this virus, going to refuse jabs?

Think you do young people a disservice there Scawsby. I would suggest that the vast majority of youngsters are not illegal ravers etc and actually have a sense of responsibility that would shame a lot of older people.
But I would agree that most old people are worried about the virus and want to get jabbed.

Happy to stand corrected by anyone wanting to chuck some data in to the contrary.
Cheers
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« Reply #48 on December 17, 2021, 08:00:00 pm by scawsby steve »
I'm talking about people I personally know.

I accept that, but look at it logically. All of these youngsters that were having house parties and illegal raves during lockdown; can you honestly see them bothering to get jabbed?

Alternatively, are old people, most of whom are worried about this virus, going to refuse jabs?

Think you do young people a disservice there Scawsby. I would suggest that the vast majority of youngsters are not illegal ravers etc and actually have a sense of responsibility that would shame a lot of older people.
But I would agree that most old people are worried about the virus and want to get jabbed.

Happy to stand corrected by anyone wanting to chuck some data in to the contrary.
Cheers
BVB

I can't quite see your logic there, BVB. Here we have a thread criticising YOUNG footballers for not getting jabbed, yet you're saying that I'm doing young people a disservice.

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« Reply #49 on December 17, 2021, 08:23:58 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
I'm talking about people I personally know.

I accept that, but look at it logically. All of these youngsters that were having house parties and illegal raves during lockdown; can you honestly see them bothering to get jabbed?

Alternatively, are old people, most of whom are worried about this virus, going to refuse jabs?

SS

I was talking about people I know. I wasn't drawing any wider conclusions.

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« Reply #50 on December 17, 2021, 09:34:41 pm by BVB »
I'm talking about people I personally know.

I accept that, but look at it logically. All of these youngsters that were having house parties and illegal raves during lockdown; can you honestly see them bothering to get jabbed?

Alternatively, are old people, most of whom are worried about this virus, going to refuse jabs?

Think you do young people a disservice there Scawsby. I would suggest that the vast majority of youngsters are not illegal ravers etc and actually have a sense of responsibility that would shame a lot of older people.
But I would agree that most old people are worried about the virus and want to get jabbed.

Happy to stand corrected by anyone wanting to chuck some data in to the contrary.
Cheers
BVB

I can't quite see your logic there, BVB. Here we have a thread criticising YOUNG footballers for not getting jabbed, yet you're saying that I'm doing young people a disservice.

Sorry Scawsby - was just replying specifically to your comment about young illegal ravers etc. rather than the young footballers thing so apologies for mixing the two.
You would hope that football clubs - being communities in themselves and with a lot to lose (as shown by this week’s cancellations) would have been working hard with those younger players who either can’t/won’t see the need to be jabbed, and get them to list the positive and negative consequences of their choice within the football club/community in which they work.
As they say, there’s no “i” in “team”, and that concept should be rammed home to them in relation to the current situation.



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« Reply #51 on December 18, 2021, 09:36:48 am by Filo »
The clue is in the fact that most footballers are in their 20s. This is the age group that aren't generally getting vaccinated, and don't really give 2 f*cks about the virus.

I know lots of people in their 20s, and not a single one of them has had any jabs.

Same where i work. They don't care and aren't bothered if they infect older people. Hopefully they all get it and suffer.

You must attract them.

The only person I know closely who's refused the vaccine is 61. Every young person I know has stepped straight up for it.

In my experience I have to back AL’s claim, last night was Mad Friday, I worked, and nearly every young person I went to pick up tried getting into a car without a mask or face covering, and I had many arguments with them, AL is correct, most of them don’t give a toss

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« Reply #52 on December 18, 2021, 01:16:24 pm by Janso »
The clue is in the fact that most footballers are in their 20s. This is the age group that aren't generally getting vaccinated, and don't really give 2 f*cks about the virus.

I know lots of people in their 20s, and not a single one of them has had any jabs.

Same where i work. They don't care and aren't bothered if they infect older people. Hopefully they all get it and suffer.

You must attract them.

The only person I know closely who's refused the vaccine is 61. Every young person I know has stepped straight up for it.

In my experience I have to back AL’s claim, last night was Mad Friday, I worked, and nearly every young person I went to pick up tried getting into a car without a mask or face covering, and I had many arguments with them, AL is correct, most of them don’t give a toss

I don't think you can compare people out on the piss on a Friday night to the entire young population of Britain.

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« Reply #53 on December 18, 2021, 03:32:18 pm by DonnyBazR0ver »
Is this about footballers having the jab or their behaviour? It's probable that vaccinated players have caught the virus whilst unvaccinted players might not have.

Entirely feasible that an unvaccinated player follows the guidance by limiting his social contacts etc and remain covid free. Conversely, a vaccinated player might go out on the lash, catch a dose and bring it back into the group.

There are so many unknowns about the virus, how it's transmitted and how it affects people differently, so I think it's difficult to enforce a compulsory jab or consequences for not taking the jab.

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« Reply #54 on December 18, 2021, 03:54:20 pm by normal rules »
I had to explain to one of my colleagues the other day how totally counter intuitive it was to work from home, which they were doing, and then go out to the local boozer every night. He just did not get it.
This is what we are up against.

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« Reply #55 on December 18, 2021, 04:01:29 pm by Filo »
I had to explain to one of my colleagues the other day how totally counter intuitive it was to work from home, which they were doing, and then go out to the local boozer every night. He just did not get it.
This is what we are up against.

People are thick, last night I had a customer that wasn’t keen on wearing a mask, he did eventually when I pointed out to him he had a three mile walk if he didn’t put a mask on, he then went on to say that tonight he will be at a party with about 40 other people who won’t be wearing masks and then said what is the difference, I said you are in a car with me in a confined space, I’m wearing a mask to help protect you, I expect the same consideration back, I couldn’t give a shit what he does tonight, and if he gets covid through his brainless attitude he desrves it

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« Reply #56 on December 18, 2021, 04:05:35 pm by sha66y »
Is this about footballers having the jab or their behaviour? It's probable that vaccinated players have caught the virus whilst unvaccinted players might not have.

Entirely feasible that an unvaccinated player follows the guidance by limiting his social contacts etc and remain covid free. Conversely, a vaccinated player might go out on the lash, catch a dose and bring it back into the group.

There are so many unknowns about the virus, how it's transmitted and how it affects people differently, so I think it's difficult to enforce a compulsory jab or consequences for not taking the jab.

I think it’s transmitted by word of mouth …..lol

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« Reply #57 on December 18, 2021, 04:11:26 pm by sha66y »
I'm talking about people I personally know.

I accept that, but look at it logically. All of these youngsters that were having house parties and illegal raves during lockdown; can you honestly see them bothering to get jabbed?

Alternatively, are old people, most of whom are worried about this virus, going to refuse jabs?

Think you do young people a disservice there Scawsby. I would suggest that the vast majority of youngsters are not illegal ravers etc and actually have a sense of responsibility that would shame a lot of older people.
But I would agree that most old people are worried about the virus and want to get jabbed.

Happy to stand corrected by anyone wanting to chuck some data in to the contrary.
Cheers
BVB


Unfortunately the only data available is the governments and that is designed to suit their particular agenda depending on what day it is !

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« Reply #58 on December 18, 2021, 04:13:08 pm by Nudga »
I had to explain to one of my colleagues the other day how totally counter intuitive it was to work from home, which they were doing, and then go out to the local boozer every night. He just did not get it.
This is what we are up against.

People are thick, last night I had a customer that wasn’t keen on wearing a mask, he did eventually when I pointed out to him he had a three mile walk if he didn’t put a mask on, he then went on to say that tonight he will be at a party with about 40 other people who won’t be wearing masks and then said what is the difference, I said you are in a car with me in a confined space, I’m wearing a mask to help protect you, I expect the same consideration back, I couldn’t give a shit what he does tonight, and if he gets covid through his brainless attitude he desrves it

So your jabs don't work and you'll have to mask up for the rest of your life.

Each to their own but I can't live like that.

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« Reply #59 on December 18, 2021, 04:14:59 pm by sha66y »
I had to explain to one of my colleagues the other day how totally counter intuitive it was to work from home, which they were doing, and then go out to the local boozer every night. He just did not get it.
This is what we are up against.

So what would you have advised..?  Genuine question

 

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