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normal rules

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Player vaccinations in the EFL.
« on December 16, 2021, 04:33:48 pm by normal rules »
I was a little taken aback by stats I’ve just read in the free press. As of November the EFL have said that one quarter of all players in the EFL have no intention of getting vaccinated.
Wow.



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Ldr

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« Reply #1 on December 16, 2021, 05:30:24 pm by Ldr »
People who have choice do not always go the way you seem to want. They do not follow orders blindly

roverstillidie91

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« Reply #2 on December 16, 2021, 05:40:23 pm by roverstillidie91 »
It is counter productive because for players and staff who don't get the vaccine I'm not a total expert but if a certain portion of the public don't get it which contributes to the spread then will lead to games behind closed doors. Equals clubs folding. Equals no wages for players who won't get it.

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« Reply #3 on December 16, 2021, 06:32:10 pm by Nudga »
I'm not surprised with the amount of players going to ground clutching at their chests and struggling to breath around Europe.

phil old leake

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« Reply #4 on December 16, 2021, 06:54:47 pm by phil old leake »
Nudga.   Really

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #5 on December 16, 2021, 07:14:40 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
I'm not surprised with the amount of players going to ground clutching at their chests and struggling to breath around Europe.
Snowflakes.

normal rules

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« Reply #6 on December 16, 2021, 07:27:25 pm by normal rules »
Listening to 5 live now who are talking about it. Liverpool claim to have near 100% jabbed.  Chelsea have nAmed their players that are positive .

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« Reply #7 on December 16, 2021, 09:13:53 pm by ravenrover »
I'm not surprised with the amount of players going to ground clutching at their chests and struggling to breath around Europe.
What, like the last one you mentioned. Leave it out

normal rules

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« Reply #8 on December 16, 2021, 09:16:48 pm by normal rules »
I emailed Liam Hoden earlier tonight. I wondered if he would ask someone at the club, the next time he gets the opportunity , how many rovers players are not vax. He has replied saying he has been asking the question for a while, but he keeps getting batted off. He  has said he will ask the new manager.

Ldr

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« Reply #9 on December 16, 2021, 09:23:05 pm by Ldr »
What business is it of yours NR out of interest?

Nudga

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« Reply #10 on December 16, 2021, 09:24:03 pm by Nudga »
I'm not surprised with the amount of players going to ground clutching at their chests and struggling to breath around Europe.
What, like the last one you mentioned. Leave it out

Which one? Martin Terrier?

Nudga

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« Reply #11 on December 16, 2021, 09:25:15 pm by Nudga »
I emailed Liam Hoden earlier tonight. I wondered if he would ask someone at the club, the next time he gets the opportunity , how many rovers players are not vax. He has replied saying he has been asking the question for a while, but he keeps getting batted off. He  has said he will ask the new manager.

When was the last time your missus had a smear test NR?

normal rules

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« Reply #12 on December 16, 2021, 09:26:20 pm by normal rules »
She has one every year.
Has done for the last 12

normal rules

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« Reply #13 on December 16, 2021, 09:31:59 pm by normal rules »
We are being led to believe that not being vaccinated is ok. It’s a choice . A human right . And nothing to be ashamed of. Apparently.
So why not say ? Why not “come out”?
Unvaccinated lives matter perhaps anyone?
ULM.
You heard it here first.

Ldr

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« Reply #14 on December 16, 2021, 09:36:37 pm by Ldr »
We are being led to believe that not being vaccinated is ok. It’s a choice . A human right . And nothing to be ashamed of. Apparently.
So why not say ? Why not “come out”?
Unvaccinated lives matter perhaps anyone?
ULM.
You heard it here first.

It isn’t anything to be ashamed of

SydneyRover

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« Reply #15 on December 16, 2021, 09:37:56 pm by SydneyRover »
What business is it of yours NR out of interest?

Think of it as a stat Ldr, NR is not asking for names, we have stats for everything else?

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« Reply #16 on December 16, 2021, 09:41:01 pm by scawsby steve »
The clue is in the fact that most footballers are in their 20s. This is the age group that aren't generally getting vaccinated, and don't really give 2 f*cks about the virus.

I know lots of people in their 20s, and not a single one of them has had any jabs.
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« Reply #17 on December 16, 2021, 09:42:07 pm by normal rules »
A lot has been written about Bayern Munich and COVID in recent weeks, and now Bild is reporting who the five unvaccinated first team players at the club are. They also have news on the consequences being handed down from the club as a result of those decisions. According to Bild, Bayern did not want to comment on the report.

The five unvaccinated players are: Eric Maxim Chopuo-Moting, Michael Cuisance, Serge Gnabry, Joshua Kimmich, and Jamal Musiala.

The day before Friday’s loss against Augsburg, those players were summoned to Säbener Straße for a meeting with Bayern’s bosses. Once there, the players were told that while it is their right to not get the vaccine, but that they should think about the club as well. The players were also told of the following consequences:

No salary while quarantined
Beginning November 1, the city of Munich made it so employees are not entitled to their salary from to a quarantine due to their unvaccinated status. Fed up with players missing time, Bayern will no longer be paying the salary of unvaccinated players while they’re quarantined.

Kimmich, Gnabry, Musiala, and Choupo-Moting were informed that they would not be paid for the time they were quarantined this month. Cuisance has not been quarantined, so he will be paid his regular salary.

For Kimmich, due to his enormous salary, this means a loss of roughly €768,000 in the last two weeks.

Possibility of isolated training
Nothing is being ruled out including the unvaccinated players being isolated from the rest of the team during training. The five were surprised at this announcement, but it is reportedly being met with approval from the rest of the team.

normal rules

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« Reply #18 on December 16, 2021, 09:44:09 pm by normal rules »
The clue is in the fact that most footballers are in their 20s. This is the age group that aren't generally getting vaccinated, and don't really give 2 f*cks about the virus.

I know lots of people in their 20s, and not a single one of them have had any jabs.

75% of efl are jabbed or intending to be .You can’t tell me they are all in their 30’s.

scawsby steve

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« Reply #19 on December 16, 2021, 09:53:36 pm by scawsby steve »
The clue is in the fact that most footballers are in their 20s. This is the age group that aren't generally getting vaccinated, and don't really give 2 f*cks about the virus.

I know lots of people in their 20s, and not a single one of them have had any jabs.

75% of efl are jabbed or intending to be .You can’t tell me they are all in their 30’s.

I'm not talking about the jabbed, I'm talking about the unjabbed, and the possible reason for it.

normal rules

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« Reply #20 on December 16, 2021, 10:01:23 pm by normal rules »
People who have choice do not always go the way you seem to want. They do not follow orders blindly

We’ve not been ordered to have a vaccine.
What business is it of yours NR out of interest?

Albeit a small vote, with 93% on here so far who have cast theirs, and declared their status as vaccinated, I believe it’s in the interests of supporters of a football club if it’s players have taken on the responsibility to themselves, their fellow players and the club to get vaccinated or not.  I believe it is now in the public interest.
Don’t take my word for it though.
There is an article in the Times that a blame culture is appearing towards players who are unvaccinated contributing to games being cancelled.
It will never be proven perhaps, but if the rovers players who have tested positive were un vaccinated, then their inactions may, and I accept this may be a stretch, be the sole reason why rovers are not playing this weekend.
You only have to look at the Bayern Munich Model to see where this is going.
These players are paid huge sums of money. They get told how to train, what to drink, what to eat, how to exercise. How to keep in shape , fit and healthy. They are afforded the very best treatment money can buy if they pull a muscle of tear a tendon. They are a very expensive asset. There is an argument They should be held accountable for their inactions in this regard and I am seeing a picture emerging that being vaccinated will fall into that arena.
I can also see unvaccinated players becoming less valuable in future the longer covid goes on.

And so, on a much smaller scale, at TLOD. I’d like to know how many players we have who choose not to be vaccinated. Not names, just numbers.

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« Reply #21 on December 16, 2021, 10:02:16 pm by Filo »
I'm not surprised with the amount of players going to ground clutching at their chests and struggling to breath around Europe.

Contracting covid can cause acute myocardial injury, maybe these players you refer to have had covid unknowingly and its not the vaccine as you claim

Nudga

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« Reply #22 on December 16, 2021, 10:16:07 pm by Nudga »
I'm not surprised with the amount of players going to ground clutching at their chests and struggling to breath around Europe.

Contracting covid can cause acute myocardial injury, maybe these players you refer to have had covid unknowingly and its not the vaccine as you claim

We'll never know either way Filo. I can only surmise because of my once healthy 36 year customer who got pericarditis after his first jab. Yes, it was diagnosed as a vaccine injury.

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« Reply #23 on December 16, 2021, 11:10:41 pm by SydneyRover »
There's likely a bunch of snowflakes with a fear of needles too  :)

phil old leake

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« Reply #24 on December 17, 2021, 12:27:23 am by phil old leake »
People argue it’s their right to not be vaccinated and there seems to be a reluctance to enforce it for the greater good

We enforce seat belts.  We don’t pansy and phones about saying we advise you it’s a good idea to wear one but if you don’t it doesn’t matter

We enforce all types of things such as car insurance car MOT drink driving and many other things. We all know it’s right and for the benefit of others. We don’t offer advice but leave it for people to choose

The way to get players to get vaccinated is for supporters to boycott matches where both squads are not vaccinated or the clubs refuse to disclose who is

When crowds stop attending and it affects their income the clubs might become more responsible

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« Reply #25 on December 17, 2021, 01:19:20 am by bpoolrover »
We can't have I'd for voting thou as it's against human right, snowflakes

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« Reply #26 on December 17, 2021, 07:44:39 am by kirk »
How many who voted on this want players vaccinated for the benefit of the player’s or just so their Saturday isn’t interrupted?

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« Reply #27 on December 17, 2021, 07:47:55 am by normal rules »
I want players vaccinated for health reasons primarily, but a close second is for games not to be cancelled.
This will affect clubs with loss of income stream. And if it were to go on long enough, it could cost some clubs their very existence. The govt are not stepping in with financial support any more.

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« Reply #28 on December 17, 2021, 07:50:00 am by Nudga »
And "snowflakes" getting tested for the deadliest disease in the world to see if they are poorly. "snowflakes" look like they are scared of a sore throat.

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« Reply #29 on December 17, 2021, 08:24:19 am by Axholme Lion »
The clue is in the fact that most footballers are in their 20s. This is the age group that aren't generally getting vaccinated, and don't really give 2 f*cks about the virus.

I know lots of people in their 20s, and not a single one of them has had any jabs.

Same where i work. They don't care and aren't bothered if they infect older people. Hopefully they all get it and suffer.

 

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