Graham Younger

[Cramby10]

There was one moment early in the second half when dodoo was played in down our right hand side, he was several yards closer to the ball than the left back, but still somehow didn’t get to the ball and ended up toe poking it behind.

He is truly woeful

Thats the thing that annoys me the most cos that is not about ability. It’s about effort and desire. He’s got the heart of a pea and doesn’t want to get hurt, just like his mate Jordy.

[Campsall rover]

I say barely top half National League standard well let’s put it this way does anyone think that 2002/03 team would not beat this team quite comfortably.

[Filo]

Can anyone tell me what Hiwula adds to the team?

Needs 40 yards of space to control the ball

[Filo]

Bogle offered most up front today.

Bogle got his head on the ball more times in his first 5 mins than Dodoo did for 50 mins

[Campsall rover]

Can anyone tell me what Hiwula adds to the team?

Needs 40 yards of space to control the ball

He is awful Filo. Worse than Dodoo imo  total lack of effort and commitment to the cause. A heart the size of a spider.
If was me I would be embarrassed to collect my wages. 
When he was signed I thought RW may have got a very good platpyer as he was excellent at Coventry.
Now I know why Coventry got rid. 
Dodoo simply does not have the ability for this league. Hiwula does have the ability but just can’t be bothered to work up a sweat. No excuse for that at all. If he is not fit then don’t play him. So assume he is fit.

[Campsall rover]

Bogle offered most up front today.

Bogle got his head on the ball more times in his first 5 mins than Dodoo did for 50 mins

He cannot jump to head a ball. That’s why.

[tyke1962]

I say barely top half National League standard well let’s put it this way does anyone think that 2002/03 team would not beat this team quite comfortably.

It was the poorest Rovers display I've seen Campsall probably since your Conference days .

That said you were missing quite a few players and up against one of the best sides in the league who look to have finally found a winning formula to get out of league one at long last .

Sunderland had far too much for you all over the park .

The thing that would have disappointed me was nobody got in the faces of the Sunderland players and tried to make life as difficult as possible for them .

You were way too easy to play against .

If Rovers are to have any chance of getting out of this you need to be more physical and dare I say horrible .

I know it's not the Rovers way but with the position you are in you have to start getting about teams and put it about far more .

[Jersey Rover]

Thing is it’s all well cursing our luck with injuries but is it just luck. I don’t know the exact number of games missed but The same players always seem to be injured. No good having good quality players if there constantly on the treatment table. Sadly if there not value for money they also need replacing.

[bpoolrover]

Agree tyke and that's why we need a manager that knows how to battle and stay up,so hopefully we won't gamble on gm

[BillyStubbsTears]

I say barely top half National League standard well let’s put it this way does anyone think that 2002/03 team would not beat this team quite comfortably.

It was the poorest Rovers display I've seen Campsall probably since your Conference days .

That said you were missing quite a few players and up against one of the best sides in the league who look to have finally found a winning formula to get out of league one at long last .

Sunderland had far too much for you all over the park .

The thing that would have disappointed me was nobody got in the faces of the Sunderland players and tried to make life as difficult as possible for them .

You were way too easy to play against .

If Rovers are to have any chance of getting out of this you need to be more physical and dare I say horrible .

I know it's not the Rovers way but with the position you are in you have to start getting about teams and put it about far more .

It's a combination of an injured list on the scale of the first day of the Somme, and the worst year of recruitment for 25 years.

[Campsall rover]

I say barely top half National League standard well let’s put it this way does anyone think that 2002/03 team would not beat this team quite comfortably.

It was the poorest Rovers display I've seen Campsall probably since your Conference days .

That said you were missing quite a few players and up against one of the best sides in the league who look to have finally found a winning formula to get out of league one at long last .

Sunderland had far too much for you all over the park .

The thing that would have disappointed me was nobody got in the faces of the Sunderland players and tried to make life as difficult as possible for them .

You were way too easy to play against .

If Rovers are to have any chance of getting out of this you need to be more physical and dare I say horrible .

I know it's not the Rovers way but with the position you are in you have to start getting about teams and put it about far more .

Totally lacking any players capable of that. No leaders no ball winners and very little experience of this league with far too many of our players.

[Campsall rover]

I say barely top half National League standard well let%u2019s put it this way does anyone think that 2002/03 team would not beat this team quite comfortably.

It was the poorest Rovers display I've seen Campsall probably since your Conference days .

That said you were missing quite a few players and up against one of the best sides in the league who look to have finally found a winning formula to get out of league one at long last .

Sunderland had far too much for you all over the park .

The thing that would have disappointed me was nobody got in the faces of the Sunderland players and tried to make life as difficult as possible for them .

You were way too easy to play against .

If Rovers are to have any chance of getting out of this you need to be more physical and dare I say horrible .

I know it's not the Rovers way but with the position you are in you have to start getting about teams and put it about far more .

It's a combination of an injured list on the scale of the first day of the Somme, and the worst year of recruitment for 25 years.

Absolutely it is as simple as that.
The recruitment from RW and Younger if he was responsible was beyond diabolical
If the budget was 14th in the league why were we signing players either not good enough for the National league or players that simply have the heart of a beetle.

[tyke1962]

I say barely top half National League standard well let’s put it this way does anyone think that 2002/03 team would not beat this team quite comfortably.

It was the poorest Rovers display I've seen Campsall probably since your Conference days .

That said you were missing quite a few players and up against one of the best sides in the league who look to have finally found a winning formula to get out of league one at long last .

Sunderland had far too much for you all over the park .

The thing that would have disappointed me was nobody got in the faces of the Sunderland players and tried to make life as difficult as possible for them .

You were way too easy to play against .

If Rovers are to have any chance of getting out of this you need to be more physical and dare I say horrible .

I know it's not the Rovers way but with the position you are in you have to start getting about teams and put it about far more .

Totally lacking any players capable of that. No leaders no ball winners and very little experience of this league with far too many of our players.

I've seen us get out of situations like Rovers are in Campsall and it's always come down to having someone who can galvanise the squad with a band of brothers mentality which is why we aren't getting out of it either this season .

All buying in to it and battling , scraping and kicking your way to safety if you have to .

As you say sometimes it's just not there within a group .

[Pside]

He needs sacking

[Campsall rover]

I say barely top half National League standard well let%u2019s put it this way does anyone think that 2002/03 team would not beat this team quite comfortably.

It was the poorest Rovers display I've seen Campsall probably since your Conference days .

That said you were missing quite a few players and up against one of the best sides in the league who look to have finally found a winning formula to get out of league one at long last .

Sunderland had far too much for you all over the park .

The thing that would have disappointed me was nobody got in the faces of the Sunderland players and tried to make life as difficult as possible for them .

You were way too easy to play against .

If Rovers are to have any chance of getting out of this you need to be more physical and dare I say horrible .

I know it's not the Rovers way but with the position you are in you have to start getting about teams and put it about far more .

Totally lacking any players capable of that. No leaders no ball winners and very little experience of this league with far too many of our players.

I've seen us get out of situations like Rovers are in Campsall and it's always come down to having someone who can galvanise the squad with a band of brothers mentality which is why we aren't getting out of it either this season .

All buying in to it and battling , scraping and kicking your way to safety if you have to .

As you say sometimes it's just not there within a group .

There is no manager in the world that would be able to get that starting 11 to beat teams of the quality of Sunderland. They never broke sweat.
Now get our entire injured players playing week in week out then yes we have a chance, a good one.
But we lack a real leader on the park and a proper hard man in midfield. Even with all those 7 players in the team. Not a dirty player just someone who can show the opposition they are not going to waltz through our defences.

[i_ateallthepies]

The worst two players RW signed are two of the older players who should be leading by example. Hiwiyla and Dodoo.
To be honest on that today they would not get in any National league North team.
They have scored 1 league goal each in 22 games. Absolutely dire.
Cannot control a football let alone have a shot at goal. So not much chance of scoring any.

Best player by a mile was Kyle Knoyle today. He gave it everything. Olowou not far behind. Jones did ok not at fault for any goals and Tommy Rowe tried his best but simply had nothing to work with. Brandon Horton and Matt Smith tried but were out classed.
Ravenhill totally out of his depth and Hasani and Blythe are not ready for the rigours of League 1 football yet. So our midfield was woefully short.

We started today with only 3 players over the age of 22
Seriously what hope did we have with competing with that Sunderland team.

Without Anderson, John, Bostock, Galbraith, Close, Taylor and Ferji  we simply are not competitive as a group of players in this league.
With all those players fit and playing regularly then we are a team who should finish around 12th to 16th.
Without all 6 we are a bottom 4 team as is being shown. In fact bottom 2 if not bottom.

4 quality reinforcements required right now or we are going down with a whimper even if Guardiola is our new manager.
4 is the bare minimum. Think we need 6.

Centre back, left back 2 midfielders, 2 strikers,one who can play wide.
Ideally a goalkeeping coach who is still young enough to play and put Jones under pressure for his position.

Whoever is going to get the managers job he has got one hell of a job and without the new additions he has not got a prayer.

This team is barely top half National league standard at present.
Good luck whoever gets the job. Your going to need more than luck.

I think you do Matt Smith a gross injustice there, Campsall.  He was head and shoulders the best Rovers player today.

[scawsby steve]

The worst two players RW signed are two of the older players who should be leading by example. Hiwiyla and Dodoo.
To be honest on that today they would not get in any National league North team.
They have scored 1 league goal each in 22 games. Absolutely dire.
Cannot control a football let alone have a shot at goal. So not much chance of scoring any.

Best player by a mile was Kyle Knoyle today. He gave it everything. Olowou not far behind. Jones did ok not at fault for any goals and Tommy Rowe tried his best but simply had nothing to work with. Brandon Horton and Matt Smith tried but were out classed.
Ravenhill totally out of his depth and Hasani and Blythe are not ready for the rigours of League 1 football yet. So our midfield was woefully short.

We started today with only 3 players over the age of 22
Seriously what hope did we have with competing with that Sunderland team.

Without Anderson, John, Bostock, Galbraith, Close, Taylor and Ferji  we simply are not competitive as a group of players in this league.
With all those players fit and playing regularly then we are a team who should finish around 12th to 16th.
Without all 6 we are a bottom 4 team as is being shown. In fact bottom 2 if not bottom.

4 quality reinforcements required right now or we are going down with a whimper even if Guardiola is our new manager.
4 is the bare minimum. Think we need 6.

Centre back, left back 2 midfielders, 2 strikers,one who can play wide.
Ideally a goalkeeping coach who is still young enough to play and put Jones under pressure for his position.

Whoever is going to get the managers job he has got one hell of a job and without the new additions he has not got a prayer.

This team is barely top half National league standard at present.
Good luck whoever gets the job. Your going to need more than luck.

I think you do Matt Smith a gross injustice there, Campsall.  He was head and shoulders the best Rovers player today.

Smith's been my MOM for the last 3 games.

[Campsall rover]

The worst two players RW signed are two of the older players who should be leading by example. Hiwiyla and Dodoo.
To be honest on that today they would not get in any National league North team.
They have scored 1 league goal each in 22 games. Absolutely dire.
Cannot control a football let alone have a shot at goal. So not much chance of scoring any.

Best player by a mile was Kyle Knoyle today. He gave it everything. Olowou not far behind. Jones did ok not at fault for any goals and Tommy Rowe tried his best but simply had nothing to work with. Brandon Horton and Matt Smith tried but were out classed.
Ravenhill totally out of his depth and Hasani and Blythe are not ready for the rigours of League 1 football yet. So our midfield was woefully short.

We started today with only 3 players over the age of 22
Seriously what hope did we have with competing with that Sunderland team.

Without Anderson, John, Bostock, Galbraith, Close, Taylor and Ferji  we simply are not competitive as a group of players in this league.
With all those players fit and playing regularly then we are a team who should finish around 12th to 16th.
Without all 6 we are a bottom 4 team as is being shown. In fact bottom 2 if not bottom.

4 quality reinforcements required right now or we are going down with a whimper even if Guardiola is our new manager.
4 is the bare minimum. Think we need 6.

Centre back, left back 2 midfielders, 2 strikers,one who can play wide.
Ideally a goalkeeping coach who is still young enough to play and put Jones under pressure for his position.

Whoever is going to get the managers job he has got one hell of a job and without the new additions he has not got a prayer.

This team is barely top half National league standard at present.
Good luck whoever gets the job. Your going to need more than luck.

I think you do Matt Smith a gross injustice there, Campsall.  He was head and shoulders the best Rovers player today.

In your opinion.

[Filo]

To be fair Smith is the only ine looking like he wants to take some responsibility

[ravenrover]

The worst two players RW signed are two of the older players who should be leading by example. Hiwiyla and Dodoo.
To be honest on that today they would not get in any National league North team.
They have scored 1 league goal each in 22 games. Absolutely dire.
Cannot control a football let alone have a shot at goal. So not much chance of scoring any.

Best player by a mile was Kyle Knoyle today. He gave it everything. Olowou not far behind. Jones did ok not at fault for any goals and Tommy Rowe tried his best but simply had nothing to work with. Brandon Horton and Matt Smith tried but were out classed.
Ravenhill totally out of his depth and Hasani and Blythe are not ready for the rigours of League 1 football yet. So our midfield was woefully short.

We started today with only 3 players over the age of 22
Seriously what hope did we have with competing with that Sunderland team.

Without Anderson, John, Bostock, Galbraith, Close, Taylor and Ferji  we simply are not competitive as a group of players in this league.
With all those players fit and playing regularly then we are a team who should finish around 12th to 16th.
Without all 6 we are a bottom 4 team as is being shown. In fact bottom 2 if not bottom.

4 quality reinforcements required right now or we are going down with a whimper even if Guardiola is our new manager.
4 is the bare minimum. Think we need 6.

Centre back, left back 2 midfielders, 2 strikers,one who can play wide.
Ideally a goalkeeping coach who is still young enough to play and put Jones under pressure for his position.

Whoever is going to get the managers job he has got one hell of a job and without the new additions he has not got a prayer.

This team is barely top half National league standard at present.
Good luck whoever gets the job. Your going to need more than luck.

I think you do Matt Smith a gross injustice there, Campsall.  He was head and shoulders the best Rovers player today.

In your opinion.

That's what a forum is for Camps, don't take it personal if someone has one different to yours

[Drover]

How do you know? What has Younger been doing? Has he been making suggestions that have been ignored?

He’s the manager of the recruitment team. Are you telling me he’s had zero input then into these signings?

colincramby,think pigeonhole was replying to Keith79's post,not yours

[Campsall rover]

The worst two players RW signed are two of the older players who should be leading by example. Hiwiyla and Dodoo.
To be honest on that today they would not get in any National league North team.
They have scored 1 league goal each in 22 games. Absolutely dire.
Cannot control a football let alone have a shot at goal. So not much chance of scoring any.

Best player by a mile was Kyle Knoyle today. He gave it everything. Olowou not far behind. Jones did ok not at fault for any goals and Tommy Rowe tried his best but simply had nothing to work with. Brandon Horton and Matt Smith tried but were out classed.
Ravenhill totally out of his depth and Hasani and Blythe are not ready for the rigours of League 1 football yet. So our midfield was woefully short.

We started today with only 3 players over the age of 22
Seriously what hope did we have with competing with that Sunderland team.

Without Anderson, John, Bostock, Galbraith, Close, Taylor and Ferji  we simply are not competitive as a group of players in this league.
With all those players fit and playing regularly then we are a team who should finish around 12th to 16th.
Without all 6 we are a bottom 4 team as is being shown. In fact bottom 2 if not bottom.

4 quality reinforcements required right now or we are going down with a whimper even if Guardiola is our new manager.
4 is the bare minimum. Think we need 6.

Centre back, left back 2 midfielders, 2 strikers,one who can play wide.
Ideally a goalkeeping coach who is still young enough to play and put Jones under pressure for his position.

Whoever is going to get the managers job he has got one hell of a job and without the new additions he has not got a prayer.

This team is barely top half National league standard at present.
Good luck whoever gets the job. Your going to need more than luck.

I think you do Matt Smith a gross injustice there, Campsall.  He was head and shoulders the best Rovers player today.

In your opinion.

That's what a forum is for Camps, don't take it personal if someone has one different to yours

How am I taking it personally. I just said in your opinion. How is that taking it personally. As you said the forum is for opinions and mine was that Knoyle was MOM.

We can choose 11 different ones if we want.

PS He said Smith was by far and away the M O M and not imo he was.
It was a statement of fact.
Well it is not a fact as you say ravenrover it is a opinion so I said, in your opinion. Just to clarify ok.
No problem. I post in peace. 

[Pside]

Smith was by far and away man of the match today. Anyone who’s ever play football knows  that. He’s the only one get showed for the ball or had any close what to do on the ball when he had it. I brought a Leeds supporting mate today and he couldn’t believe how bad we were.

[ravenrover]

It's how it looked to me Camps, as you and I say all about opinions

[i_ateallthepies]

Campsall, it was a statement of my opinion.  It shouldn't be necessary when making a statement of what is obviously opinion to qualify it as such.  If someone gives an opinion and claims it to be 'FACT' then that deserves to be called out.

[Campsall rover]

Well I have been called out for having an opinion and not putting IMO

So now I do.
Look it is not important.