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David Pearson

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Shambles
« on January 02, 2022, 05:00:04 pm by David Pearson »
The current mess at the rovers has all stemmed from a total lack of ambition from the top at the club....A total shambles...



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Re: Shambles
« Reply #1 on January 02, 2022, 05:03:09 pm by coventryrover »
Really?    I seem to recall the board backing each manager we have had.  What you note is bs, you want them to gamble our club by throwing.money at players .    Still not guaranteed success and would guarantee our club would suffer if there isn't success on the pitch
 

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Re: Shambles
« Reply #2 on January 02, 2022, 05:05:07 pm by since-1969 »
Really?    I seem to recall the board backing each manager we have had.  What you note is bs, you want them to gamble our club by throwing.money at players .    Still not guaranteed success and would guarantee our club would suffer if there isn't success on the pitch
Do we have decent chance of staying then with this group of players ? Brian

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Re: Shambles
« Reply #3 on January 02, 2022, 05:07:06 pm by Glyn_Wigley »
So when they went 3-0 they were defying the top of the club? :silly:

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Re: Shambles
« Reply #4 on January 02, 2022, 05:08:08 pm by Fal »
Can’t believe there are still some fans who defend the current predicament and come on here and slate anyone that slates the club.

The club is currently a joke and is being run by people with zero ambition. I can accept going down if put in a fight but right now just shows a handful of bad decisions biting us in the arse.

David Pearson

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Re: Shambles
« Reply #5 on January 02, 2022, 05:10:03 pm by David Pearson »
This mess has been going on long before Wellens came in.....Its the board who set any budget..its the board who decide in what direction the clubs goes....There is a difference between backing any manager and giving any manager enough backing...

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Re: Shambles
« Reply #6 on January 02, 2022, 05:11:10 pm by Move DRFC »
People at the top are totally clueless with no ambition. Apparently Paul Downing will take up most of our budget. Is that substantial backing? Do me a f**king favour.

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Re: Shambles
« Reply #7 on January 02, 2022, 05:12:13 pm by normal rules »
I’d be interested to hear what GM has to say about today.
What actually happened for this to be such a capitulation? It all seemed to change after Bogle went off.
Bad game management?  Or were Morcambe that much better second half?

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Re: Shambles
« Reply #8 on January 02, 2022, 05:13:09 pm by normal rules »
I’m not going to slate the board.
Today was about the team on the pitch. To be three nil up and then have a second half like that. We cannot use injuries as an excuse when you are 3 up.
We could have just parked the bus ffs. ?

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« Reply #9 on January 02, 2022, 05:13:50 pm by DonnyNoel »
Can’t believe there are still some fans who defend the current predicament and come on here and slate anyone that slates the club.

The club is currently a joke and is being run by people with zero ambition. I can accept going down if put in a fight but right now just shows a handful of bad decisions biting us in the arse.

I'll put it out there - I don't think it's zero ambition at all. Just a huge lack of footballing nous that's seen us go backwards every time we lose a manager. For me, the black and white of it is zero ambition = zero funds out their own pocket which isn't the case. We desperately need a DoF. Especially with our policy of recruiting fairly inexperienced managers.

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Re: Shambles
« Reply #10 on January 02, 2022, 05:14:52 pm by watto-drfc »
Without this board of directors we wouldn't have a club

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Re: Shambles
« Reply #11 on January 02, 2022, 05:19:34 pm by anton123 »
Can’t believe there are still some fans who defend the current predicament and come on here and slate anyone that slates the club.

The club is currently a joke and is being run by people with zero ambition. I can accept going down if put in a fight but right now just shows a handful of bad decisions biting us in the arse.

I'll put it out there - I don't think it's zero ambition at all. Just a huge lack of footballing nous that's seen us go backwards every time we lose a manager. For me, the black and white of it is zero ambition = zero funds out their own pocket which isn't the case. We desperately need a DoF. Especially with our policy of recruiting fairly inexperienced managers.
By fairly do you mean zero ?

Fal

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Re: Shambles
« Reply #12 on January 02, 2022, 05:20:29 pm by Fal »
Can’t believe there are still some fans who defend the current predicament and come on here and slate anyone that slates the club.

The club is currently a joke and is being run by people with zero ambition. I can accept going down if put in a fight but right now just shows a handful of bad decisions biting us in the arse.

I'll put it out there - I don't think it's zero ambition at all. Just a huge lack of footballing nous that's seen us go backwards every time we lose a manager. For me, the black and white of it is zero ambition = zero funds out their own pocket which isn't the case. We desperately need a DoF. Especially with our policy of recruiting fairly inexperienced managers.

I would agree with that, and with that they have ripped the heart and soul out of the football club because of it.

It’s not a football club to them, it’s a business. I want someone passionate for this club in charge, you just have to look back at JR to what it can do to a football club and it’s fans.

David Pearson

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Re: Shambles
« Reply #13 on January 02, 2022, 05:22:15 pm by David Pearson »
Without this board of directors we wouldn't have a club
So we should be happy we have a club and that's it then ?......How about some foresight and ambition for a change...

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Re: Shambles
« Reply #14 on January 02, 2022, 05:22:52 pm by karlos »
Way to how do you know we wouldn’t have a club, if the club was put up for sale you never know who we may get. Yes we could get nobody but on the other hand it could work wonders for the club. But without putting it out there then we will never know will we!

Move DRFC

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Re: Shambles
« Reply #15 on January 02, 2022, 05:23:31 pm by Move DRFC »
Without this board of directors we wouldn't have a club

If the only positive of the board is the fact that we still have a club, they must be doing a pretty f**king shocking job of it.

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Re: Shambles
« Reply #16 on January 02, 2022, 05:25:12 pm by DonnyBazR0ver »
Can’t believe there are still some fans who defend the current predicament and come on here and slate anyone that slates the club.

The club is currently a joke and is being run by people with zero ambition. I can accept going down if put in a fight but right now just shows a handful of bad decisions biting us in the arse.

Brilliant insightful observations. Now what?

Fal

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Re: Shambles
« Reply #17 on January 02, 2022, 05:31:14 pm by Fal »
Can’t believe there are still some fans who defend the current predicament and come on here and slate anyone that slates the club.

The club is currently a joke and is being run by people with zero ambition. I can accept going down if put in a fight but right now just shows a handful of bad decisions biting us in the arse.

Brilliant insightful observations. Now what?

Get in that trench with BobG, you’re made for each other.

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Re: Shambles
« Reply #18 on January 02, 2022, 05:34:33 pm by DonnyOsmond »
Way to how do you know we wouldn’t have a club, if the club was put up for sale you never know who we may get. Yes we could get nobody but on the other hand it could work wonders for the club. But without putting it out there then we will never know will we!

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sedwardsdrfc

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Re: Shambles
« Reply #19 on January 02, 2022, 05:38:01 pm by sedwardsdrfc »
Agh not the board conversation again.

I think there is a middle ground where you have to be grateful for the 2m put in every year and that the club is brining in more income than before (meaning we aren't as reliant on handouts) these are all good things that have to be recognised. Incredibly entitled to expect someone to spend more.

However it's without doubt that we've been on a backwards trajectory since GM left and it sounds like it's been recognised but then almost every action we take only compounds this downward spiral. Very naive to let DM do what he did to the club. No one was looking out for DRFC when he was in charge that is why so many people what a DOF who wouldn't let the manager do something so risky for the club.

Then each time a manager leaves there's this soulless job search like we're looking for a assistant to the regional manager rather than appointing a highly specialised high performance role. Go out and get the person who you believe suits the club and the players we have (again a DOF would help ). Instead GMc has a mentor instead of a DOF who looks out for DRFC a job i could do right now "mate you need better players those lot our shite" mentor session over. Is this because GMc didn't want a DOF or just didn't ask for one. We need vision and that is what's really been lacking and is leading to the general sense of lack of ambition or passion for the club.

So yeah in summary we have to be thankful to the board but also they are in many ways responsible for state of the club. Don't think that means they need to leave of should be chased out. Rather they need to learn and delegate to better people than they have been

DonnyNoel

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Re: Shambles
« Reply #20 on January 02, 2022, 05:38:28 pm by DonnyNoel »
Can’t believe there are still some fans who defend the current predicament and come on here and slate anyone that slates the club.

The club is currently a joke and is being run by people with zero ambition. I can accept going down if put in a fight but right now just shows a handful of bad decisions biting us in the arse.

I'll put it out there - I don't think it's zero ambition at all. Just a huge lack of footballing nous that's seen us go backwards every time we lose a manager. For me, the black and white of it is zero ambition = zero funds out their own pocket which isn't the case. We desperately need a DoF. Especially with our policy of recruiting fairly inexperienced managers.
By fairly do you mean zero ?

No, by fairly I'd argue (correctly) that Moore, Wellens and McCann fall into that category. GMS of course is different.

coventryrover

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Re: Shambles
« Reply #21 on January 02, 2022, 05:38:32 pm by coventryrover »
I am so tired of cretins wanting the owners owt.   Yes,  likes cut off our nose to spite our face.   

Who are the new parties coming to investing, to keep DRFC a going concern

Jonathan

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Re: Shambles
« Reply #22 on January 02, 2022, 05:39:57 pm by Jonathan »
Can’t believe there are still some fans who defend the current predicament and come on here and slate anyone that slates the club.

The club is currently a joke and is being run by people with zero ambition. I can accept going down if put in a fight but right now just shows a handful of bad decisions biting us in the arse.

I'll put it out there - I don't think it's zero ambition at all. Just a huge lack of footballing nous that's seen us go backwards every time we lose a manager. For me, the black and white of it is zero ambition = zero funds out their own pocket which isn't the case. We desperately need a DoF. Especially with our policy of recruiting fairly inexperienced managers.

Agree with this. It’s easy to forget that, up to a point, it looked like we’d recruited well this summer. Few were complaining when we brought in Knoyle, Rowe, RS Williams, Close and Hiwula, but most of them have been ineffective so far (that’s not to say some can’t have an impact when fit and / or when there’s more quality around them). That doesn’t point to a lack of ambition per se, but it does reflect some poor recruitment.

Factor in the current injury list (Seamen, Anderson, Bostock, Taylor and Fej) and there is, or at least should be, the basis of a competitive League One Team. It’s not enough, as has been proven, but a club with no ambition would not be bringing in those players to start with.

There are things the Board (or the decision makers it may be better to call them) can clearly do better, and are other significant factors outside their control. It’s not all black and white.

What they need to do now, as a matter of urgency, is back McSheffrey to bring in reinforcements that are capable of making a significant immediate impact at this level.

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Re: Shambles
« Reply #23 on January 02, 2022, 05:40:12 pm by Arsenal Of The North »
I think a bit of perspective is needed, that defeat hurts, from flying 3-0 up in the first 30 minutes to surrendering it in that fashion.

Barring 2-3 of that team, that was bulk made up of 2nd choice players/reserves/kids, when we lose a few wiser heads to yet more injuries again we struggle.

In an ideal world, we’re bringing on players like Gardner, Barlow etc to see games out, not rely on them to win us games from the off.

The subs, completely wrong today, I know we had our hands tied, but Tiago should never be coming on. I don’t know what more GMS could have done, maybe Williams on but maybe there’s still question marks over his fitness, maybe he thought he couldn’t trust him (his preformances up to date would back that up)

I still live in hope that with 3/4/5 additions we do have a bit of a squad to get out this mess. Maybe I’m naive maybe I’m a dreamer.

Let’s hope the recruitment comes sooner rather than later because we need every possible point available with a better squad to have a go!

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Re: Shambles
« Reply #24 on January 02, 2022, 05:42:09 pm by ditch_drfc »
It really is laughable that some of the users on here still defend the club. Stop berating anyone that dares to talk out against the shit show that is the board. We're failing from top to bottom.

Players, not good enough. Managers, haven't been good enough. Mcsheffrey, cheap option, not good enough. Coaching staff, not good enough. Medical staff, not good enough. Fitness staff, not good enough. Talent scout, not good enough... Does it need to go on? Kit designer, absolutely w**k and nowhere near good enough.


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Re: Shambles
« Reply #25 on January 02, 2022, 05:42:15 pm by DonnyBazR0ver »
Can’t believe there are still some fans who defend the current predicament and come on here and slate anyone that slates the club.

The club is currently a joke and is being run by people with zero ambition. I can accept going down if put in a fight but right now just shows a handful of bad decisions biting us in the arse.

Brilliant insightful observations. Now what?

Get in that trench with BobG, you’re made for each other.

Nevermind the insults. What do you suggest should happen next?

DonnyNoel

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Re: Shambles
« Reply #26 on January 02, 2022, 05:42:58 pm by DonnyNoel »
Way to how do you know we wouldn’t have a club, if the club was put up for sale you never know who we may get. Yes we could get nobody but on the other hand it could work wonders for the club. But without putting it out there then we will never know will we!

Football clubs don't need to be up for sale to attract buyers if they really want to buy. You could buy DRFC for naff all as long as you have the funds to run it and support the losses. But given you could do that to a good chunk of Championship clubs with more history and beeter geography than us...

Fal

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Re: Shambles
« Reply #27 on January 02, 2022, 05:43:38 pm by Fal »
I am so tired of cretins wanting the owners owt.   Yes,  likes cut off our nose to spite our face.   

Who are the new parties coming to investing, to keep DRFC a going concern

So anyone having a differing opinion to you is a cretin? Nice to know..

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Re: Shambles
« Reply #28 on January 02, 2022, 05:45:56 pm by dickos1 »
It really is laughable that some of the users on here still defend the club. Stop berating anyone that dares to talk out against the shit show that is the board. We're failing from top to bottom.

Players, not good enough. Managers, haven't been good enough. Mcsheffrey, cheap option, not good enough. Coaching staff, not good enough. Medical staff, not good enough. Fitness staff, not good enough. Talent scout, not good enough... Does it need to go on? Kit designer, absolutely w**k and nowhere near good enough.



And we’re you saying all this at half time, mcsheffrey picked a side today that scored more goals in half an hour than we had all season away from home.
And then the 3 best players got injured

coventryrover

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Re: Shambles
« Reply #29 on January 02, 2022, 05:46:05 pm by coventryrover »
I am so tired of cretins wanting the owners owt.   Yes,  likes cut off our nose to spite our face.   

Who are the new parties coming to investing, to keep DRFC a going concern

So anyone having a differing opinion to you is a cretin? Nice to know..
  No but it would be amazing if you and others with your views can be constructed.  You never are though - you plural

 

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