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Quote from: Filo on February 24, 2022, 07:02:42 amWell the Russians have invaded, time to boot out all the dodgy Russians in this Country and confiscate all their UK assets, and for NATO to make it clear that put one step on NATO soil and it’s full scale military confrontation, Belarus must also be sanctioned, the free world can not allow this to happenThe West caused the whole situation over the past thirty years by breaking promises about eastern expansion of Nato.
Well the Russians have invaded, time to boot out all the dodgy Russians in this Country and confiscate all their UK assets, and for NATO to make it clear that put one step on NATO soil and it’s full scale military confrontation, Belarus must also be sanctioned, the free world can not allow this to happen
Quote from: Axholme Lion on February 24, 2022, 07:41:00 amQuote from: Filo on February 24, 2022, 07:32:18 amQuote from: Axholme Lion on February 24, 2022, 07:17:06 amQuote from: Filo on February 24, 2022, 07:02:42 amWell the Russians have invaded, time to boot out all the dodgy Russians in this Country and confiscate all their UK assets, and for NATO to make it clear that put one step on NATO soil and it’s full scale military confrontation, Belarus must also be sanctioned, the free world can not allow this to happenThe West caused the whole situation over the past thirty years by breaking promises about eastern expansion of Nato.The bombing was NATO's second major combat operation, following the 1995 bombing campaign in Bosnia and Herzegovina. It was the first time that NATO had used military force without the expressed endorsement of the UN Security Council, which triggered debates over the legitimacy of the intervention.Every sovereign Country as the right to determine it’s own future, the biggest mistake Ukraine made was trusting the Russians word and giving their Nukes to them, if Ukraine had Nukes the madman that is Putin would not have been so bold, how you can defend unprovoked aggression is beyond meLike bombing Sarajevo, Libya, Iraq. Oh yes Nato are really trustworthy. People in glass houses...United Nations, NATO has only ever attacked the Taliban regime in Afgan in the War on Terror
Quote from: Filo on February 24, 2022, 07:32:18 amQuote from: Axholme Lion on February 24, 2022, 07:17:06 amQuote from: Filo on February 24, 2022, 07:02:42 amWell the Russians have invaded, time to boot out all the dodgy Russians in this Country and confiscate all their UK assets, and for NATO to make it clear that put one step on NATO soil and it’s full scale military confrontation, Belarus must also be sanctioned, the free world can not allow this to happenThe West caused the whole situation over the past thirty years by breaking promises about eastern expansion of Nato.The bombing was NATO's second major combat operation, following the 1995 bombing campaign in Bosnia and Herzegovina. It was the first time that NATO had used military force without the expressed endorsement of the UN Security Council, which triggered debates over the legitimacy of the intervention.Every sovereign Country as the right to determine it’s own future, the biggest mistake Ukraine made was trusting the Russians word and giving their Nukes to them, if Ukraine had Nukes the madman that is Putin would not have been so bold, how you can defend unprovoked aggression is beyond meLike bombing Sarajevo, Libya, Iraq. Oh yes Nato are really trustworthy. People in glass houses...
Quote from: Axholme Lion on February 24, 2022, 07:17:06 amQuote from: Filo on February 24, 2022, 07:02:42 amWell the Russians have invaded, time to boot out all the dodgy Russians in this Country and confiscate all their UK assets, and for NATO to make it clear that put one step on NATO soil and it’s full scale military confrontation, Belarus must also be sanctioned, the free world can not allow this to happenThe West caused the whole situation over the past thirty years by breaking promises about eastern expansion of Nato.The bombing was NATO's second major combat operation, following the 1995 bombing campaign in Bosnia and Herzegovina. It was the first time that NATO had used military force without the expressed endorsement of the UN Security Council, which triggered debates over the legitimacy of the intervention.Every sovereign Country as the right to determine it’s own future, the biggest mistake Ukraine made was trusting the Russians word and giving their Nukes to them, if Ukraine had Nukes the madman that is Putin would not have been so bold, how you can defend unprovoked aggression is beyond me
Well, the shit has hit the fan now. The news all over are reporting Invasion this morning with deaths at Ukrainian Miltary bases being mentioned. Putin urging Ukrainian to lay down their arms. That’s not going to happen. Worrying times ahead. This is not what the world needs right now. This all started long ago with the breakup of the old USSR. In many ways it’s not dissimilar to the breakup of the Bosnia Herzegovina situation. That’s doesn’t make it right of course.
The talk of joining NATO and the EU has been the problem whether right or wrong, I firmly believe that people should have the right of self determination, but the EU and NATO have misread the situation and have not stood up when they had the better of the situation. I would say they have had too much trust in basically a mad man, but they are to blame for taking their eye off the ball and over the last ten years pushing and pontificating strutting about without taking action. The Germans and every other nation have got into bed with Putin to an extent when their existence of being in the modern world for energy has been turned over to Russia. The doves and save the earth nuts have to be thanked for the destruction of alternative energy recourses that would have served for years, mainly to take power from unions and into politicians hands, and from nationalised companies into greedy individual hands. Well this is what you get for being nice, giving power to the doves and save the Earth wallas, reducing expenditure on defence, not paying your way to Nato ( stand up the big hitters in the EU) and trying to be what you are not. Bang goes that theory about the EU stopping wars in Europe then.
Hands up those blaming Nato have been regular listeners to RT and have quoted the output on this forum?
Quote from: SydneyRover on February 24, 2022, 08:42:51 amHands up those blaming Nato have been regular listeners to RT and have quoted the output on this forum?I'd be more concerned about the diet of woke, pc, anti brexit poison spewed out by the BBC over the past few years. The BBC is a sick, decadent organisation with no values, pretty much like most Western governments nowadays.
It was always coming.This has been Putin's objective for a longtime I think.
Quote from: Filo on February 24, 2022, 07:57:07 amQuote from: Axholme Lion on February 24, 2022, 07:41:00 amQuote from: Filo on February 24, 2022, 07:32:18 amQuote from: Axholme Lion on February 24, 2022, 07:17:06 amQuote from: Filo on February 24, 2022, 07:02:42 amWell the Russians have invaded, time to boot out all the dodgy Russians in this Country and confiscate all their UK assets, and for NATO to make it clear that put one step on NATO soil and it’s full scale military confrontation, Belarus must also be sanctioned, the free world can not allow this to happenThe West caused the whole situation over the past thirty years by breaking promises about eastern expansion of Nato.The bombing was NATO's second major combat operation, following the 1995 bombing campaign in Bosnia and Herzegovina. It was the first time that NATO had used military force without the expressed endorsement of the UN Security Council, which triggered debates over the legitimacy of the intervention.Every sovereign Country as the right to determine it’s own future, the biggest mistake Ukraine made was trusting the Russians word and giving their Nukes to them, if Ukraine had Nukes the madman that is Putin would not have been so bold, how you can defend unprovoked aggression is beyond meLike bombing Sarajevo, Libya, Iraq. Oh yes Nato are really trustworthy. People in glass houses...United Nations, NATO has only ever attacked the Taliban regime in Afgan in the War on Terror
Quote from: Axholme Lion on February 24, 2022, 08:28:01 amQuote from: Filo on February 24, 2022, 07:57:07 amQuote from: Axholme Lion on February 24, 2022, 07:41:00 amQuote from: Filo on February 24, 2022, 07:32:18 amQuote from: Axholme Lion on February 24, 2022, 07:17:06 amQuote from: Filo on February 24, 2022, 07:02:42 amWell the Russians have invaded, time to boot out all the dodgy Russians in this Country and confiscate all their UK assets, and for NATO to make it clear that put one step on NATO soil and it’s full scale military confrontation, Belarus must also be sanctioned, the free world can not allow this to happenThe West caused the whole situation over the past thirty years by breaking promises about eastern expansion of Nato.The bombing was NATO's second major combat operation, following the 1995 bombing campaign in Bosnia and Herzegovina. It was the first time that NATO had used military force without the expressed endorsement of the UN Security Council, which triggered debates over the legitimacy of the intervention.Every sovereign Country as the right to determine it’s own future, the biggest mistake Ukraine made was trusting the Russians word and giving their Nukes to them, if Ukraine had Nukes the madman that is Putin would not have been so bold, how you can defend unprovoked aggression is beyond meLike bombing Sarajevo, Libya, Iraq. Oh yes Nato are really trustworthy. People in glass houses...United Nations, NATO has only ever attacked the Taliban regime in Afgan in the War on TerrorYou mention trustworthy, only days ago Russia said they had no intention of invading Ukraine, Putin and Russia can not be trusted
Quote from: Axholme Lion on February 24, 2022, 09:09:07 amQuote from: SydneyRover on February 24, 2022, 08:42:51 amHands up those blaming Nato have been regular listeners to RT and have quoted the output on this forum?I'd be more concerned about the diet of woke, pc, anti brexit poison spewed out by the BBC over the past few years. The BBC is a sick, decadent organisation with no values, pretty much like most Western governments nowadays.The invasion of a sovereign country. War in Europe.And you are wittering on about the BBC?
Quote from: Filo on February 24, 2022, 09:21:18 amQuote from: Axholme Lion on February 24, 2022, 08:28:01 amQuote from: Filo on February 24, 2022, 07:57:07 amQuote from: Axholme Lion on February 24, 2022, 07:41:00 amQuote from: Filo on February 24, 2022, 07:32:18 amQuote from: Axholme Lion on February 24, 2022, 07:17:06 amQuote from: Filo on February 24, 2022, 07:02:42 amWell the Russians have invaded, time to boot out all the dodgy Russians in this Country and confiscate all their UK assets, and for NATO to make it clear that put one step on NATO soil and it’s full scale military confrontation, Belarus must also be sanctioned, the free world can not allow this to happenThe West caused the whole situation over the past thirty years by breaking promises about eastern expansion of Nato.The bombing was NATO's second major combat operation, following the 1995 bombing campaign in Bosnia and Herzegovina. It was the first time that NATO had used military force without the expressed endorsement of the UN Security Council, which triggered debates over the legitimacy of the intervention.Every sovereign Country as the right to determine it’s own future, the biggest mistake Ukraine made was trusting the Russians word and giving their Nukes to them, if Ukraine had Nukes the madman that is Putin would not have been so bold, how you can defend unprovoked aggression is beyond meLike bombing Sarajevo, Libya, Iraq. Oh yes Nato are really trustworthy. People in glass houses...United Nations, NATO has only ever attacked the Taliban regime in Afgan in the War on TerrorYou mention trustworthy, only days ago Russia said they had no intention of invading Ukraine, Putin and Russia can not be trustedDonbass and Luhansk is not Ukraine.
Because if he gets away with it in Ukraine, which he will, then next with be Latvia, lithuania and Estonia.
Quote from: River Don on February 24, 2022, 09:16:08 amQuote from: Axholme Lion on February 24, 2022, 09:09:07 amQuote from: SydneyRover on February 24, 2022, 08:42:51 amHands up those blaming Nato have been regular listeners to RT and have quoted the output on this forum?I'd be more concerned about the diet of woke, pc, anti brexit poison spewed out by the BBC over the past few years. The BBC is a sick, decadent organisation with no values, pretty much like most Western governments nowadays.The invasion of a sovereign country. War in Europe.And you are wittering on about the BBC?Take it up with Sydney he started it.