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If you don't think that most MP's on all sides are not in the game for what they can get out of it Syd, your a bigger idiot than I think you are. I have had dealings with a number over the years, none from any party have ever impressed me, and local planning and councils are even more into being in the game for themselves, with the help of MP's in many cases.
I was just thinking the same. The thread is about the Ukraine conflict, not an opportunity to score political points from past or present. Please keep on topic.
Quote from: selby on March 04, 2022, 04:16:12 pm No Syd, I can remember in the late sixties when an MP was asked in my presence how much the job was worth. His answer was I would be disappointed at less than £120k a year, I lost interest about that time mate, and stopped my voluntary work for the Labour Party.well your mates have certainly upped the ante since then wouldn't you say, johnson and his cronies have become the byword for self indulgence and looking the other way.
No Syd, I can remember in the late sixties when an MP was asked in my presence how much the job was worth. His answer was I would be disappointed at less than £120k a year, I lost interest about that time mate, and stopped my voluntary work for the Labour Party.
Quote from: selby on March 04, 2022, 04:35:26 pm If you don't think that most MP's on all sides are not in the game for what they can get out of it Syd, your a bigger idiot than I think you are. I have had dealings with a number over the years, none from any party have ever impressed me, and local planning and councils are even more into being in the game for themselves, with the help of MP's in many cases.This in spades
Quote from: Ldr on March 04, 2022, 05:15:23 pmQuote from: selby on March 04, 2022, 04:35:26 pm If you don't think that most MP's on all sides are not in the game for what they can get out of it Syd, your a bigger idiot than I think you are. I have had dealings with a number over the years, none from any party have ever impressed me, and local planning and councils are even more into being in the game for themselves, with the help of MP's in many cases.This in spadesI do sometimes think we deserve to live in a world where people like Putin rise to the top.You haven't got a f**king clue...
Back on track and sorry for diverging from the subject guys your right. The restrictions reported on Al Jazeera news on the Russian general public are indeed draconian, and shows just how Putin is adept at using the system to nullify news broadcasts and threatens dissenters. In the modern world it is more difficult to supress truth, Putin and his entourage are not living in the real world as it stands now, and in time will suffer the consequences. The worst thing a leader of a country can do is make the general populations normal life worse for their own ends, it may take time but they will turn on him, he is living on borrowed time. The only question now is when and how he goes, peacefully or pushed.
Guided tour of the streets of London, paved with Russian gold:https://twitter.com/i/status/1499766468610863106Anyone still think Vlad's man Bozo is going to deal with this?Or any other members of the political establishment, Sir to Lord!Corrupt to the core, every sinew.
f**kin horrible Kitson.
Quote from: Nudga on March 04, 2022, 09:34:38 pmf**kin horrible Kitson. You can get cream for that Nudga..
Quote from: IDM on March 04, 2022, 09:40:17 pmQuote from: Nudga on March 04, 2022, 09:34:38 pmf**kin horrible Kitson. You can get cream for that Nudga..I'm just sick of Kitsons like him virtue signalling about Ukraine citizens going through what they are but then wanting ordinary Russian civilians to starve.
Quote from: Nudga on March 04, 2022, 09:50:11 pmQuote from: IDM on March 04, 2022, 09:40:17 pmQuote from: Nudga on March 04, 2022, 09:34:38 pmf**kin horrible Kitson. You can get cream for that Nudga..I'm just sick of Kitsons like him virtue signalling about Ukraine citizens going through what they are but then wanting ordinary Russian civilians to starve.What the feck is the planet you exist on ? This is warfare .Let me take you back to the second world war when we dropped every bomb we could on Dresden and Hamburg and killed thousands of probably 60% of em that didn't vote for Hitler .What do you think this is ?Wake up fella with all due respect .My life , your life and my grandkids life hang by a thread because of this Tyrant fecker .My grandkids ain't going down and if that's at the detriment of the Russian people then so be it .Feck em .
Quote from: tyke1962 on March 04, 2022, 10:01:34 pmQuote from: Nudga on March 04, 2022, 09:50:11 pmQuote from: IDM on March 04, 2022, 09:40:17 pmQuote from: Nudga on March 04, 2022, 09:34:38 pmf**kin horrible Kitson. You can get cream for that Nudga..I'm just sick of Kitsons like him virtue signalling about Ukraine citizens going through what they are but then wanting ordinary Russian civilians to starve.What the feck is the planet you exist on ? This is warfare .Let me take you back to the second world war when we dropped every bomb we could on Dresden and Hamburg and killed thousands of probably 60% of em that didn't vote for Hitler .What do you think this is ?Wake up fella with all due respect .My life , your life and my grandkids life hang by a thread because of this Tyrant fecker .My grandkids ain't going down and if that's at the detriment of the Russian people then so be it .Feck em .You've gone from "GET BOOSTED, SAVE LIVES" to "f**k THE RUSSIANS, LET THEM STARVE" in a matter of weeks.Like I said, virtue signalling Kitson.
Looks better if you put the chart up Syd
Quote from: wilts rover on March 04, 2022, 09:13:37 pmLooks better if you put the chart up SydBut...but...but....Boris said we were leading the world!!
Quote from: Nudga on March 05, 2022, 07:04:30 amQuote from: tyke1962 on March 04, 2022, 10:01:34 pmQuote from: Nudga on March 04, 2022, 09:50:11 pmQuote from: IDM on March 04, 2022, 09:40:17 pmQuote from: Nudga on March 04, 2022, 09:34:38 pmf**kin horrible Kitson. You can get cream for that Nudga..I'm just sick of Kitsons like him virtue signalling about Ukraine citizens going through what they are but then wanting ordinary Russian civilians to starve.What the feck is the planet you exist on ? This is warfare .Let me take you back to the second world war when we dropped every bomb we could on Dresden and Hamburg and killed thousands of probably 60% of em that didn't vote for Hitler .What do you think this is ?Wake up fella with all due respect .My life , your life and my grandkids life hang by a thread because of this Tyrant fecker .My grandkids ain't going down and if that's at the detriment of the Russian people then so be it .Feck em .You've gone from "GET BOOSTED, SAVE LIVES" to "f**k THE RUSSIANS, LET THEM STARVE" in a matter of weeks.Like I said, virtue signalling Kitson.I'd suggest if you'd put what remains of your wife or kids in a body bag or had to flee your own country leaving everything behind and not knowing if you'd ever return you may see it differently .In warfare very often bad things have to be done to achieve good things .It is what it is and there can be no weaknesses .When Thatcher gave the order to sink The Belgrano she did it to save the lives of our forces .The fact it was outside the exclusion zone was neither here nor there because our forces lives were worth more than the Argentinean's .This is what warfare reduces you to and the decisions you have to make .They have to be made in order to make the world a safer place .There is no getting around this if tyrants are to be brought down and you have to be just as ruthless as they are .Tyrants take their people down with them with their actions , it's unfortunate .
Quote from: tyke1962 on March 04, 2022, 10:01:34 pmQuote from: Nudga on March 04, 2022, 09:50:11 pmQuote from: IDM on March 04, 2022, 09:40:17 pmQuote from: Nudga on March 04, 2022, 09:34:38 pmf**kin horrible Kitson. You can get cream for that Nudga..I'm just sick of Kitsons like him virtue signalling about Ukraine citizens going through what they are but then wanting ordinary Russian civilians to starve.What the feck is the planet you exist on ? This is warfare .Let me take you back to the second world war when we dropped every bomb we could on Dresden and Hamburg and killed thousands of probably 60% of em that didn't vote for Hitler .What do you think this is ?Wake up fella with all due respect .My life , your life and my grandkids life hang by a thread because of this Tyrant fecker .My grandkids ain't going down and if that's at the detriment of the Russian people then so be it .Feck em .You've gone from "GET BOOSTED, SAVE LIVES" to "f**k THE RUSSIANS, LET THEM STARVE" in a matter of weeks.Like I said, virtue signalling Kitson.
Quote from: tyke1962 on March 05, 2022, 11:12:01 amQuote from: Nudga on March 05, 2022, 07:04:30 amQuote from: tyke1962 on March 04, 2022, 10:01:34 pmQuote from: Nudga on March 04, 2022, 09:50:11 pmQuote from: IDM on March 04, 2022, 09:40:17 pmQuote from: Nudga on March 04, 2022, 09:34:38 pmf**kin horrible Kitson. You can get cream for that Nudga..I'm just sick of Kitsons like him virtue signalling about Ukraine citizens going through what they are but then wanting ordinary Russian civilians to starve.What the feck is the planet you exist on ? This is warfare .Let me take you back to the second world war when we dropped every bomb we could on Dresden and Hamburg and killed thousands of probably 60% of em that didn't vote for Hitler .What do you think this is ?Wake up fella with all due respect .My life , your life and my grandkids life hang by a thread because of this Tyrant fecker .My grandkids ain't going down and if that's at the detriment of the Russian people then so be it .Feck em .You've gone from "GET BOOSTED, SAVE LIVES" to "f**k THE RUSSIANS, LET THEM STARVE" in a matter of weeks.Like I said, virtue signalling Kitson.I'd suggest if you'd put what remains of your wife or kids in a body bag or had to flee your own country leaving everything behind and not knowing if you'd ever return you may see it differently .In warfare very often bad things have to be done to achieve good things .It is what it is and there can be no weaknesses .When Thatcher gave the order to sink The Belgrano she did it to save the lives of our forces .The fact it was outside the exclusion zone was neither here nor there because our forces lives were worth more than the Argentinean's .This is what warfare reduces you to and the decisions you have to make .They have to be made in order to make the world a safer place .There is no getting around this if tyrants are to be brought down and you have to be just as ruthless as they are .Tyrants take their people down with them with their actions , it's unfortunate .If you're that bothered, why don't you join up to the foreign legion and get stuck in with the other volunteers and kill some Russians rather than spouting your poison on a rival teams football forum.