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"evacuation". Funny isn't it, the relentless twisted language used by western media that somehow escapes the critical awareness of some folks.In every other instance this is referred to as a surrender. The soldiers are currently in process of an exchange. Ie they are captured, following their surrender. Yet not one headline reflects this.
Some soldiers are still in there. Isn't it the wounded who have been allowed out?
Quite ironic. A fascist dictatorship unleashing the biggest European war in 75 years, ostensibly to de-Nazify a handful of opponents.
against a population of 44million I guess a handful would be reasonable description
Quote from: Bristol Red Rover on May 17, 2022, 06:44:58 pm"evacuation". Funny isn't it, the relentless twisted language used by western media that somehow escapes the critical awareness of some folks.In every other instance this is referred to as a surrender. The soldiers are currently in process of an exchange. Ie they are captured, following their surrender. Yet not one headline reflects this. The Guardian headline says their fate is unclear.In the first paragraph it says they surrendered.It goes on to say the Ukanians want a prisoner swap but it's not clear this will happen. They might even be tried and executed.The men understood this might be their fate which is one reason why they held out for as long as they possibly could.Yet more senseless slaughter would not be a surprise in this war.
"evacuation". Funny isn't it, the relentless twisted language used by western media that somehow escapes the critical awareness of some folks.In every other instance this is referred to as a surrender. The soldiers are currently in process of an exchange. Ie they are captured, following their surrender. Yet not one headline reflects this.
There have been protests there for a while now. Half? of a crowd of 2k? mainly teenagers is almost less dramatic than an BNP demo.From what I hear from my Russian neighbour who has half a family in Russia, half n Ukraine (most of those currently in the neighbours house at the mo), the support in Russia for the war is pretty solid and passionate.
Quote from: Bristol Red Rover on May 22, 2022, 01:21:04 amThere have been protests there for a while now. Half? of a crowd of 2k? mainly teenagers is almost less dramatic than an BNP demo.From what I hear from my Russian neighbour who has half a family in Russia, half n Ukraine (most of those currently in the neighbours house at the mo), the support in Russia for the war is pretty solid and passionate.With the utmost respect to your neighbour, from that video, of people who are actually in Russia, who know they face arrest and jail for expressing any anti-war sentiment and will be the ones called up to do the fighting if Putin widens conscription - its not.