Talk Your Way Out Of This One Johnson

[drfchound]

He also talked about the need to have a good guy with a gun in order to be able to stop the bad guy with a gun.
In the USA it would be political suicide for anyone who backed a ban the gun policy.

[River Don]

He also talked about the need to have a good guy with a gun in order to be able to stop the bad guy with a gun.
In the USA it would be political suicide for anyone who backed a ban the gun policy.

To me that is such a strange argument. Two guys shooting it out with guns isn't more likely to stop the bad guy. But it is asking for innocent casualties caught in the crossfire.

[drfchound]

Yep, typical Trump but in actual fact he was just repeating what the leader of the National Rifle Federation (I think that is what they are called) said at their conference last year.

[BillyStubbsTears]

For pretty much the whole of the past half century, a majority of Americans have wanted stricter gun laws. Here's polling data from Gallup.


The problem is that the Republicans know that they can whip up enough of the other 40-ish% to control the Senate pretty much in perpetuity, because of the bizarre system that gives Wyoming with a population the size of Sheffield as many Senators as California with a population the size of Poland. And the Senate can block any such laws. And if a couple of dozen kids get shot at school every other year, that's just too bad.

[BillyStubbsTears]

RD.
In that speech, Trump solemnly read out the names of all the Ulvade victims. Then finished off his speech by dancing on the stage.
It's the age of amoral showmen Kitsons in politics. It won't always be like that. One day we'll look back and truly despair that Trump's and Johnsons and Bolsonaros once ruled great countries, and we'll be shocked that so many of the electorates were so partisan that they were happy to ignore their lies and immoralities as long as they stuffed it to the other side.

[River Don]

It would be interesting to see that chart with stay the same and less strict combined to give an overall pro gun total.

[selby]

Billy, the alternatives to Johnson are a Quisling Traitor who visibly worked to undermine the referendum result of the people, and a load of nobodies intent on costing the rest of the country money they have not got on a crusade to save the world, most of them complete nut jobs.
   Take your pick.
 

[tyke1962]

Most people I talk to think Johnson has done OK under the circumstances and Starmer wouldn't have done any better, if not worse than him.

Everyone should take into account the difficulties he's encountered since he became PM.

Personally, I admire his resolve and determination and think he could become a very popular PM in future if he rides the current storm of disapproval.

Your mistaking determination and resolve for mendacity .

[Bentley Bullet]

No Tyke, I think you are.

[BillyStubbsTears]

It would be interesting to see that chart with stay the same and less strict combined to give an overall pro gun total.

Easy enough. It's 100 minus the green line. Only very, very briefly has that been above 59%. Coincidentally, when America had a black President. Go figure.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Billy, the alternatives to Johnson are a Quisling Traitor who visibly worked to undermine the referendum result of the people, and a load of nobodies intent on costing the rest of the country money they have not got on a crusade to save the world, most of them complete nut jobs.
   Take your pick.
 

Forgive me Selby if I choose not to engage with a racist WUM.

Have fun.

[selby]

  Your the racist Billy, and your racist and use of that termination to cover your hate of anyone who takes you on, has an opposite view politically to you and are Brexit voting supporters to get out of the EU, and I have reams of your diatribe, bad language, personal insults and name calling on this forum to prove it.
 Basically a sad bitter buffoon, who has a low opinion of most people, like to tell people what you think is always right, and have ended up a nobody just making an annoying noise.

[BillyStubbsTears]

I don't "hate anyone who takes me on ". I despise nasty, unpleasant racists. I also
dislike WUMs You used disgusting racist language a while back and have never apologised or withdrawn it. You also glory in being a WUM. That is why I don't like you.

[selby]

  I quite like you Billy, your one big laugh.

[danumdon]

Its a shame when people cannot accept that other peoples views are going to be different, that being the case it can be debated and argued over.

When it gets to personal abuse and just general nastiness then its mostly pointless.

When we start to get the "my opinion is right and yours is wrong because i consider myself to be *better, brighter,intelligent,sophisticated,experienced, better looking  than you" then you may as well call it a day, pointless.

*Take your pick

[selby]

I only claim the better looking, Billy can have the rest.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Where's the "personal abuse"  thing come from?

Selby claims he's a WUM. He's written blatantly racist stuff on here and never apologised.

It's not abuse to point out facts.

Me, I prefer not to engage with racist WUMs.

[wilts rover]

Just to interupt the personal abuse for a minute to point out that there is a story in tomorrows Sunday Times claiming the meeting Johnson had with Sue Gray was to edit out the details of the ABBA party in his flat that she had disclosed.

This was followed by further meetings and correspondence between Johnson's team and Sue Gray to further edit details of events out of her report.

The article also acarries this snippet of information about how our PM has been working day and night on behalf of the public during a public health emergency.

The worst possible Prime Minister at the worst possible time.

[BigH]

Look Wilts, it's all 'priced in'. I don't know what the problem is.

And as for your references to lefty rag newspapers like The Times you're getting worse than Syd and his Guardian obsession!

[wilts rover]

Look Wilts, it's all 'priced in'. I don't know what the problem is.

And as for your references to lefty rag newspapers like The Times you're getting worse than Syd and his Guardian obsession!

Sorry H - rumled again!

[wilts rover]

A bonfire of the decencies - that lefty constitutional historian, Lord Hennessy, analyses Johnson's governmen in that lefty rag, the Financial Times (free to read):

https://www.ft.com/content/37a5b18a-77d0-4f17-ae0a-99802396ff36?shareType=nongift

[River Don]

...covering for Johnson saying he was in meetings, when really he was taking an afternoon nap!

Hehehe. Armando Ianucci couldn't have invented a scenario like that for The Thick of It.

[SydneyRover]

Hennessy .......

''What does he make of Labour leader Keir Starmer’s pledge to step down if he is fined for breaching coronavirus rules while campaigning? “I think it’s exactly right. He’s an honourable man. History would record him very favourably. Why do I know that? Because I’m writing the f**king history, that’s why.” 

[Not Now Kato]

Talking about Johnson writing history....
 
https://www.tiktok.com/@10downingstreet/video/7102736100757638405
 
And some people think he's doing a great job?

[BobG]

WTF?!

BobG

[ravenrover]

Brilliant, look closely

[BobG]

I chipped in to help fund that!

BobG

[BillyStubbsTears]

Vote of confidence in the upper ranks of the Tory party by No10.

https://mobile.twitter.com/theousherwood/status/1531529000467693569

[BillyStubbsTears]

https://mobile.twitter.com/arusbridger/status/1531612170735198211

[Bentley Bullet]

Jim Davidson ©1978.