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Quote from: belton rover on January 26, 2022, 01:15:25 pmQuote from: glosterred on January 26, 2022, 01:12:29 pmQuote from: belton rover on January 26, 2022, 01:07:43 pmQuote from: glosterred on January 26, 2022, 12:13:23 pmQuote from: belton rover on January 26, 2022, 11:45:50 amQuote from: glosterred on January 25, 2022, 08:49:51 pmIf people don’t want to eat meat products, why do they want plant based products, sausages, burgers etc, shape like meat products? Gloster - you do know that when you open up an animal, sausages and burgers don’t fall out, don’t you?Wow, who knew. But as of yet no one as answered the question why if you don’t want to eat meat, why do you want to eat meat shaped products.Burgers aren’t meat shaped. They’re round.Still not answering the question are you I’m not sure what you are getting at.A plant based, round burger, isn’t meat shaped.Off the top of my head tried to think of any processed meat product that was actually meat shaped. I came up with Bernard Matthews Turkey Drummers.What he's getting at is 'you don't want to eat meat, so why do you want something that looks/tastes/feels like meat' - and the answer is simple, lots of people do enjoy meat, but don't enjoy the ethical/health implications that come with it, so are looking for a substitute.Tickles me that something processed into a very uniform cylindrical or flat circular shape is classed as 'meat shape'
Quote from: glosterred on January 26, 2022, 01:12:29 pmQuote from: belton rover on January 26, 2022, 01:07:43 pmQuote from: glosterred on January 26, 2022, 12:13:23 pmQuote from: belton rover on January 26, 2022, 11:45:50 amQuote from: glosterred on January 25, 2022, 08:49:51 pmIf people don’t want to eat meat products, why do they want plant based products, sausages, burgers etc, shape like meat products? Gloster - you do know that when you open up an animal, sausages and burgers don’t fall out, don’t you?Wow, who knew. But as of yet no one as answered the question why if you don’t want to eat meat, why do you want to eat meat shaped products.Burgers aren’t meat shaped. They’re round.Still not answering the question are you I’m not sure what you are getting at.A plant based, round burger, isn’t meat shaped.
Quote from: belton rover on January 26, 2022, 01:07:43 pmQuote from: glosterred on January 26, 2022, 12:13:23 pmQuote from: belton rover on January 26, 2022, 11:45:50 amQuote from: glosterred on January 25, 2022, 08:49:51 pmIf people don’t want to eat meat products, why do they want plant based products, sausages, burgers etc, shape like meat products? Gloster - you do know that when you open up an animal, sausages and burgers don’t fall out, don’t you?Wow, who knew. But as of yet no one as answered the question why if you don’t want to eat meat, why do you want to eat meat shaped products.Burgers aren’t meat shaped. They’re round.Still not answering the question are you
Quote from: glosterred on January 26, 2022, 12:13:23 pmQuote from: belton rover on January 26, 2022, 11:45:50 amQuote from: glosterred on January 25, 2022, 08:49:51 pmIf people don’t want to eat meat products, why do they want plant based products, sausages, burgers etc, shape like meat products? Gloster - you do know that when you open up an animal, sausages and burgers don’t fall out, don’t you?Wow, who knew. But as of yet no one as answered the question why if you don’t want to eat meat, why do you want to eat meat shaped products.Burgers aren’t meat shaped. They’re round.
Quote from: belton rover on January 26, 2022, 11:45:50 amQuote from: glosterred on January 25, 2022, 08:49:51 pmIf people don’t want to eat meat products, why do they want plant based products, sausages, burgers etc, shape like meat products? Gloster - you do know that when you open up an animal, sausages and burgers don’t fall out, don’t you?Wow, who knew. But as of yet no one as answered the question why if you don’t want to eat meat, why do you want to eat meat shaped products.
Quote from: glosterred on January 25, 2022, 08:49:51 pmIf people don’t want to eat meat products, why do they want plant based products, sausages, burgers etc, shape like meat products? Gloster - you do know that when you open up an animal, sausages and burgers don’t fall out, don’t you?
If people don’t want to eat meat products, why do they want plant based products, sausages, burgers etc, shape like meat products?
CDHThe McPlant has fewer calories than the equivalent hamburger and it is a bit healthier than processed red meat. I might be wrong but I think the patty is pea protein plus other stuff including coconut and beet. I accept the salt and fat content is high and it is still junk food. Edit.These are the ingredients of the Beyond Meat burgers McDonalds use. They advertise it as no soya, no gluten.Water, Pea Protein*(16%), Rapeseed Oil, Coconut Oil, Rice Protein, Flavouring, Stabiliser (Methyl Cellulose), Potato Starch, Apple Extract, Colour (Beetroot Red), Maltodextrin, Pomegranate Extract, Salt, Potassium Chloride, Concentrated Lemon Juice, Maize Vinegar, Carrot Powder, Emulsifier (Sunflower Lecithin).The contentious ingredients are salts and coconut oil. Coconut oil is high in saturated fat but a McPlant burger is still lower overall in saturated fat than the meat equivalent. And perhaps Methyl cellulose and Maltodextrin are contentious too, whatever they are.
Here's the nutritional breakdown.Beyond burger* Calories: 270* Fat: 20 g (6 g saturated fat)* Sodium: 380 mg* Carbohydrates: 5 g* Fiber: 3 g* Sugars: 0 g* Protein: 20 gBeef burger* Calories: 287 * Fat: 23 g (9 g saturated fat)* Sodium: 75 mg* Carbohydrates: 0 g * Fiber: 0 g * Sugars: 0 g * Protein: 19 gThe plant burger looks a little better than beef in everything except salt content which is shockingly high.
The same can be said for alcohol free beer? if you cant or don't want to drink an alcoholic drink, why pretend beer?Also it tastes rank.
I think there's also been a big rush by the main players out there to get onto this meat free bandwagon.Always ends the same, they will mass produce supposedly meat free vegan alternatives but when you look a little deeper you will find a host of dodgy high processed foods with really harmful additives.Its pretty obvious really, if you want to eat healthy, cut the crap mass produced tat and eat fresh home cooked food, preferably organic, meat veg and fruit.Its getting to the stage where the next big fad will be the three pills a day protein shots a la 1960's space b-movies.
Mc do are doing what they always have. Makes themselves look like they embrace the climate, but still make duck loads of money.Remember the filo fish ? Healthy option.then the chicken burger? Mc rib? Loads of bollox. All a cover for the beef burger, which still sells 75 per second globally.
Not to mention that many of the ingredients used in alternative meat substitute products are produced in countries miles away and thus leave a shocking carbon footprint. Coconut Oil. Soya. Chickpeas, amongst other ingredients.
I remember documentaries years ago that showed how McDonald’s have laid bare millions of acres of arable land in the USA by polluting soil with fertiliser that made cows grow fat fast. I don’t think their business model has changed much.Mc plant has the same carbon footprint as a chicken burger.
Quote from: danumdon on February 12, 2022, 11:21:33 pmThe same can be said for alcohol free beer? if you cant or don't want to drink an alcoholic drink, why pretend beer?Also it tastes rank.ghost ship and Becks blue is very good and piston head do one called flat tyre as well
Closest alcohol free beer i've found to the real thing is by a Swedish brewery called Brutal Brewing and it is called Ship full of IPA. In a small stubby bottle with a yellow label. It's actually lovely stuff but so expensive. Can't drink any other alcohol free beer. Anyone had Old Speckled Hen alcohol free? Gordon bennett. It's like drinking motor oil.
Quote from: ColinDouglasHandshake on February 13, 2022, 04:21:41 pmClosest alcohol free beer i've found to the real thing is by a Swedish brewery called Brutal Brewing and it is called Ship full of IPA. In a small stubby bottle with a yellow label. It's actually lovely stuff but so expensive. Can't drink any other alcohol free beer. Anyone had Old Speckled Hen alcohol free? Gordon bennett. It's like drinking motor oil. some of them are shocking ,doombar is terrible