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[ColinDouglasHandshake]

Do you know him personally then CDH to be able to criticize DanumDon????

BobG

I'm not criticizing Danumdon.

Danumdon is saying that someone else has mental health issues and is an attention seeker and then proposes treatment options. I'm simply pointing out that unless it's bantz between two lads who know each other, it is appropriate to question if this is helpful.

[danumdon]

Attention seeker with mental health issues,

Prognosis, reduce your social media presence to zero and get professional help.

Really? 

Is somthing in my post incorrect ?

Considering you don’t know me personally i’d say yes. All of it

I certainly don't know you, id wager the majority on here don't, but will have formed the same opinion.

[TixTheBox]

Attention seeker with mental health issues,

Prognosis, reduce your social media presence to zero and get professional help.

Really? 

Is somthing in my post incorrect ?

Considering you don’t know me personally i’d say yes. All of it

I certainly don't know you, id wager the majority on here don't, but will have formed the same opinion.

Keep the world spinning round, opinions do.

I’d wager on me not giving a shit, I am here posting my own opinions just the same as you are.

You don’t agree with me that’s fine, just don’t interact with me instead surely you’ll find that to be easier?   

Or are threads just going to go round and round in circles?

[BobG]

So, CDH, you can constantly bombard us with your opinions on everything and everyone under the sun, but DanumDon can't give us his opinion on a person of huge malign influence.

That's the position right? Your neo libertarian ethos is now very very clear.

BobG

[ColinDouglasHandshake]

So, CDH, you can constantly bombard us with your opinions on everything and everyone under the sun, but DanumDon can't give us his opinion on a person of huge malign influence.

That's the position right? Your neo libertarian ethos is now very very clear.

BobG

Whatever. It's a waste of time arguing with you Bob. Enjoy your day.

[TixTheBox]

So, CDH, you can constantly bombard us with your opinions on everything and everyone under the sun, but DanumDon can't give us his opinion on a person of huge malign influence.

That's the position right? Your neo libertarian ethos is now very very clear.

BobG

Had to Google that  Fair enough. Although I 100% do it out of genuine concerns and care about the club. Whether you or anyone else disagrees that that’s the case. It isn’t.

I’m not going to follow a club all over the country from 8 year old to now and take delight in us failing. THAT opinion by some on here is absolutely ridiculous 

[danumdon]

Attention seeker with mental health issues,

Prognosis, reduce your social media presence to zero and get professional help.

Really? 

Is somthing in my post incorrect ?

Considering you don’t know me personally i’d say yes. All of it

I certainly don't know you, id wager the majority on here don't, but will have formed the same opinion.

Keep the world spinning round, opinions do.

I’d wager on me not giving a shit, I am here posting my own opinions just the same as you are.

You don’t agree with me that’s fine, just don’t interact with me instead surely you’ll find that to be easier?   

Or are threads just going to go round and round in circles?

First (and last) time i've "interacted" with you,

Your free to post your tripe until someone else who can see's fit to moderate it.

In the meantime I'll exercise my opinion and call out what i consider to be agitation for the hell of it.

[TixTheBox]

Why would there be a need to moderate my posts?

There isn’t.

[dickos1]

So, CDH, you can constantly bombard us with your opinions on everything and everyone under the sun, but DanumDon can't give us his opinion on a person of huge malign influence.

That's the position right? Your neo libertarian ethos is now very very clear.

BobG

Had to Google that  Fair enough. Although I 100% do it out of genuine concerns and care about the club. Whether you or anyone else disagrees that that’s the case. It isn’t.

I’m not going to follow a club all over the country from 8 year old to now and take delight in us failing. THAT opinion by some on here is absolutely ridiculous 

It’s a fact you take the most negative stance possible with regards the club whatever the situation.
You have done for years, the last time we went to league 2 you were adamant we would go straight down again.

[Glyn_Wigley]

Attention seeker with mental health issues,

Prognosis, reduce your social media presence to zero and get professional help.

Really? 

Is somthing in my post incorrect ?

Considering you don’t know me personally i’d say yes. All of it

Whereas all of you know Gavin Baldwin personally!

[TixTheBox]

So, CDH, you can constantly bombard us with your opinions on everything and everyone under the sun, but DanumDon can't give us his opinion on a person of huge malign influence.

That's the position right? Your neo libertarian ethos is now very very clear.

BobG

Had to Google that  Fair enough. Although I 100% do it out of genuine concerns and care about the club. Whether you or anyone else disagrees that that’s the case. It isn’t.

I’m not going to follow a club all over the country from 8 year old to now and take delight in us failing. THAT opinion by some on here is absolutely ridiculous 

It’s a fact you take the most negative stance possible with regards the club whatever the situation.
You have done for years, the last time we went to league 2 you were adamant we would go straight down again.

No I wasn’t, that’s a few time i’ve seen you just completely make things up 

Trust me, if I did I’d admit it. There’s no harm in being wrong.

My thoughts were we had a squad too good for that league, we manager took keep hold of some cracking players like Tommy Rowe. I think I wasn’t convinced with the signing of Marquis though. Turned out decent enough.

[TixTheBox]

Attention seeker with mental health issues,

Prognosis, reduce your social media presence to zero and get professional help.

Really? 

Is somthing in my post incorrect ?

Considering you don’t know me personally i’d say yes. All of it

Whereas all of you know Gavin Baldwin personally!

That’s just like me saying how can you be so positive about him if you dont know him personally too? 


(I have had a meet with him though, 1-2-1 or 2 if you count Shaun Lockwood).

[Glyn_Wigley]

Attention seeker with mental health issues,

Prognosis, reduce your social media presence to zero and get professional help.

Really? 

Is somthing in my post incorrect ?

Considering you don’t know me personally i’d say yes. All of it

Whereas all of you know Gavin Baldwin personally!

That’s just like me saying how can you be so positive about him if you dont know him personally too? 


(I have had a meet with him though, 1-2-1 or 2 if you count Shaun Lockwood).

So I've never met him, eh?

[TixTheBox]

How would I know if you have or haven’t? I’d say you have in your role as a VSC director but can’t remember how long ago that was.

But by your reasoning, anyone on here or elsewhere who is positive about him, can’t possibly be if they haven’t met him personally? 

[Glyn_Wigley]

How would I know if you have or haven’t? I’d say you have in your role as a VSC director but can’t remember how long ago that was.

But by your reasoning, anyone on here or elsewhere who is positive about him, can’t possibly be if they haven’t met him personally? 

You were very certain I hadn't in your last post.

[Glyn_Wigley]

"For with whatever judgment you judge, you will be judged;
and with whatever measure you measure, it will be measured to you."

[TixTheBox]

How would I know if you have or haven’t? I’d say you have in your role as a VSC director but can’t remember how long ago that was.

But by your reasoning, anyone on here or elsewhere who is positive about him, can’t possibly be if they haven’t met him personally? 

You were very certain I hadn't in your last post.

Ok speaking generally then pedant.

Right, off to crack open a few cans

[TixTheBox]

"For with whatever judgment you judge, you will be judged;
and with whatever measure you measure, it will be measured to you."

I’ll guess with either Macbeth or Harry Potter And The Philosopher’s Stone?

[Glyn_Wigley]

I’d suggest if it’s still going on in a few years then we certainly won’t feel very, very alienated…

What will make you stop then? Go on, give us your specific definitive objective instead of your usual general whinges.

You still want to be taken seriously?

[Glyn_Wigley]

"For with whatever judgment you judge, you will be judged;
and with whatever measure you measure, it will be measured to you."

I’ll guess with either Macbeth or Harry Potter And The Philosopher’s Stone?

I'm sure you do.

[TixTheBox]

I’d suggest if it’s still going on in a few years then we certainly won’t feel very, very alienated…

What will make you stop then? Go on, give us your specific definitive objective instead of your usual general whinges.

You still want to be taken seriously?

I’ve messaged some “against” and their group elsewhere with what I want. I’m not going to spend my Sunday writing it out to you who’s spent the last few days offering little but personal snipes at me (and others) personally (I could’ve put a few things about you but didn’t…).

You should’ve just been ‘mature’

Onto the drink, won’t be making a mistake of posting pissed on here so speak soon, old friend 

[Glyn_Wigley]

I’d suggest if it’s still going on in a few years then we certainly won’t feel very, very alienated…

What will make you stop then? Go on, give us your specific definitive objective instead of your usual general whinges.

You still want to be taken seriously?

I’ve messaged some “against” and their group elsewhere with what I want. I’m not going to spend my Sunday writing it out to you who’s spent the last few days offering little but personal snipes at me (and others) personally (I could’ve put a few things about you but didn’t…).

You should’ve just been ‘mature’

Onto the drink, won’t be making a mistake of posting pissed on here so speak soon, old friend 

You might have said what you want but it all seems very vague and I've not seen anywhere how you would measure whether you've got what you want, so how would the club (or anyone else) know either?

[roversdude]

I wish that they would go public with what they want, you never know we might even agree

[Glyn_Wigley]

I wish that they would go public with what they want, you never know we might even agree

I know, here I am trying to get them to publicise their opinions properly so everybody knows where they stand...

[roversdude]

Certainly can’t agree on the point that the club is not well run so I await their full manifesto

[Colin C No.3]

Guess what, you’ve not only been a d***head in the past & as you say will probably be one in the future, you’re being a d***head now which fundamentally makes you…..a full time d***head.

When you have the likes of ‘no eyed deer’ trolling you, you know you’re in dire straits.

Imagine for one moment that you are a Rovers player. You’re a young player learning your ‘trade’ so obviously there’ll be times when you make a wrong decision, you perhaps should have passed to a teammate in a better position instead of shooting & missing high & wide. Then you hear a section of the Rovers crowd chanting ‘We’re sh**e & we know we are……”.

The next time you receive the ball you’re in a much better position to shoot on goal, except you remember the chants & derision when you shot wide last time, so you choose not to shoot but slow down with the ball at your feet waiting for a teammate to catch up so you can lay the ball off to him because you don’t want to put yourself in ‘that spotlight’ again where your miss on goal became ‘the catalyst’ for those negative chants.

Unfortunately you’re tackled & lose the ball before a team mate arrives & so for a 2nd time you’ve made the wrong decision except on this occasion it was driven by those negative chants that are still in your head.

The chants have now become a self fulfilling prophecy of your actions on the field. Being a young player you can’t shrug them off & your game suffers as a result.

Just think about that scenario for a moment.

Bugger Ghosh & his ‘crusade’ telling all & sundry all he feels is wrong with the club & that he & his compardre’s have every right to shout their discontent from the roof tops at all & every opportunity because they feel they not only have that right but feel it is indeed their ‘duty’ to play devils advocate…..all because of their deep love of the club of course. Pish.

Think about that young player as you don your black & yellow ‘Hogwarts’ scarf.

Think about the owner as he hears those same chants & perhaps wonders if ploughing his children’s heritage into the club is worth it when that is his ‘reward’.

You don’t have a monopoly on being frustrated, angry, depressed at what you see & feel about events on & off the pitch at any given time during the years you follow & have followed the club. Bloody hell I’ve had my fair share of ‘dark periods’ in my club’s history since that chilly winters day in 1967.

But I don’t boo, I don’t shout out insults at individual players, I certainly would never dream of chanting ‘We’re s**t”...etc.

As for organising a group of disenchanted souls, having a banner made & waving it at matches to show the ‘world’ how clever I am to have made an association with my club & a ‘cheapo supermarket chain’ with coloured scarves to match….I couldn’t be a***d. Why? Because in the ‘dark periods’ (& believe you me my friend, in the grand scheme etc this is not one of them) I actually physically hurt too much.

I’ll have a moan with my brother on our 4 hour round journey. I won’t enjoy my tea. I’ll be ‘churning events’ over as the telly washes over me. I’ll smile & ‘chat’ to my wife but there’ll be an empty pit inside that I know will only be filled as I drive to the next game & the pit is filling with hope & wishes & yes even fear of a loss or a slight dread of a poor performance.

But that is the plight of the football supporter who wasn’t born in Liverpool or Manchester or Madrid or Milan. The ‘plight’ of the supporter born instead in Kidderminster or Halifax or Bury or (to a much lesser extent than the previous three) Doncaster.

And you know what, I wouldn’t have it any other way.

[BobG]

So, CDH, as you have no rational  response to my point that you have one set of rules for yourself and another, completely different set for those people with whom you disagree, you will, undoubtedly, agree with me when I state that your ability to engage in dialogue and discourse is irretrievably stunted. You are a verbose megaphone with no ability to reflect, to ponder or to learn.

Happy days ahead in your unselfaware personal pit.

Regards

BobG

[TixTheBox]

… An acknowledgement that our problems have stemmed from the football strategy deployed by the board being outdated. We are where we are because we don’t have a clue when it comes to what manager we want (and who) so we get left panicking for a month when they leave.

We are where we are because we sit on our hands allowing saleable assets contracts to run down and sign elsewhere.

We are where we are because any important player we do sell, we don’t almost instantly have a replacement for, sometimes never. Where’s Coppinger’s replacement? We knew he was retiring. Where’s Ben Whiteman’s replacement? I could go on. Players who had MASSIVE importance to how well we play. You only need to possess 2 eyes to know if you don’t adequately replace your star players then you’ll go backwards. Look at Franchise FC, lose Matt O’Riley and replace him within days with Matt Smith, a player we know is absolute quality.

… The appointment of an (unconnected to the club) Director Of Football/Head of Football, to the board who’s ideas are more up-to-date, has real football knowledge and who’s allowed to employ his own team of people. Tasked with building a progressive football team, a profitable recruitment strategy and continuity throughout the club no matter who is the manager or head coach. A friend McSheffrey can ring is nothing and Baldwin & Blunt think that sort of thing is being “creative”! 

A Director Of Football can ensure all the things that have been failing us, shouldn’t happen. Contracts, managers, football ethos, replacing players. All things our board are REACTIVE with, not PROACTIVE. Massive failings.

… Succession plans! Terry Bramall is in his 80’s and the only one acting as a “backstop” for any losses… He’s not going to live forever! What happens when he dies? We’re left with 2 owners who don’t have any money and probably Terry Bramall’s relatives who don’t want the club.

Now you’ll tell me this is where Club Doncaster comes in… Great, but that alone it isn’t enough, is it? Clearly. One bad financial year and that’s it, game over. Do you think we can progress on the pitch? Come on don’t be naive. The only successful era this club has had in our lifetimes is through owners who’ve been willing to fund. And that paid off! We built great sides and we sold some on at profits.

Tell me what our transfer strategy has been since everything’s been about Club Doncaster? Because if you can answer that then i’d like to know.

… Gavin Baldwin’s shares. He’s CEO but come on, gifted 33% ownership, why?! Put those shares up for sale instead of waiting for Terry Bramall to die before doing anything about the ownership! This is also part of what we want to see happen. For the future good. For all this “who’s going to buy us?!” Shit that gets spouted… How are us fans meant to know? Football clubs get bought and not all are bad. Go out and sort them because we 100% are going to need them.

One thing I do know is we don’t want to be left with just the not football wealthy pairing of David Blunt Gavin Baldwin as sole owners. Especially with one bad financial year, the panic to sell the club for survival then would open us to so many leaches! Bringing in new shareholders and funding while Bramall is around, with future purchasing of more shares in place ready for a full takeover is the smart way to go about it. I don’t want to hear this b*llocks about Bramall not wanting to work with other shareholders and it’s that trio or none of them. The football club is the most important thing, not friendship loyalty!

Starting from the summer the important things we want are:
 
- A DoF in charge of all footballing matters.

- We want a public stating of the boards succession plan.

- We want Gavin Baldwin’s shares put out for genuine investors wanting involvement in this football club

None of the people I know are taking delight in our plight, we all love this club! So get that thought out of your head, we care just as much as you’s do. We won’t sit back on things we see as wrong though.


That’s my viess.

And THAT is my last post on this matter on here because you can stick your f*cking sniping up your arse. Because you accuse me of doing that when you’s do it yourself. You’re no better or worse than I am. We all just share one thing in common and that is our hobby and passion is DRFC. No matter what each individuals opinions on situations are, that is still the fact.


Enjoy the rest of your weekend like I am.

Gary McSheffrey’s Barmy Army 

[Padge_DRFC]

The black bank Creche in the middle are the worst fans for negative chanting. As far as I'm aware they have nothing to do with those anti Baldwin and Blunt.

For what it's worth it's clear as day Baldwin has been good at generating revenue through club Doncaster however on the football side we've gone backwards with poor poor decisions and strategy.

Leave him to club Doncaster and get someone in with a football brain. Not even sure what Blunt does if anything?

[ColinDouglasHandshake]

So, CDH, as you have no rational  response to my point that you have one set of rules for yourself and another, completely different set for those people with whom you disagree, you will, undoubtedly, agree with me when I state that your ability to engage in dialogue and discourse is irretrievably stunted. You are a verbose megaphone with no ability to reflect, to ponder or to learn.

Happy days ahead in your unselfaware personal pit.

Regards

BobG

I wish i knew what all that meant but thanks for the advice man.

Quite odd though for a bloke who claims to be enjoying the chance of a lifetime in deepest South America to wasting his time posting on here.

Enjoy my future posts on a wide variety of subjects Roberto. My verbose megaphone is doing just fine.