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wilts rover

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Re: P&O Ferries sack staff
« Reply #120 on April 02, 2022, 12:41:16 pm by wilts rover »
Do we know why the government is not in a position to take action? are P&O using the fact that they discussed it with Schatts more than 3 months ago?

Next to come will be that the government are not going to enforce minimum wages on ships in British ports.

Serious question for anyone who might know:
Can the government enforce minimum wage payments on ships that are not registered here.

Isn't that why people voted for Brexit - so they could take back sovereignty and be goverened by laws the UK Parliament make?

Maybe at the next election they will hold them to account for the ones they dont make.

Although I suggest there might be different clauses for international freight or cruise ships, docking irreguarly, and a daily ferry service.

I’m not sure that most people who voted for Brexit gave a second thought to what might be the case with wages for workers coming here on a foreign registered ship wilts.


I understand they voted for the laws that governed work and workers in this country to be made in this country. That's what they told me on here.

Now either they were wrong - the laws that govern work and workers in the UK cannot be made in the UK - or the government does not wish to enforce a minimum wage law on all shipping/ferries that dock in the UK.

That's the answer to your earlier question.



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drfchound

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Re: P&O Ferries sack staff
« Reply #121 on April 02, 2022, 04:08:28 pm by drfchound »
Do we know why the government is not in a position to take action? are P&O using the fact that they discussed it with Schatts more than 3 months ago?

Next to come will be that the government are not going to enforce minimum wages on ships in British ports.

Serious question for anyone who might know:
Can the government enforce minimum wage payments on ships that are not registered here.

Isn't that why people voted for Brexit - so they could take back sovereignty and be goverened by laws the UK Parliament make?

Maybe at the next election they will hold them to account for the ones they dont make.

Although I suggest there might be different clauses for international freight or cruise ships, docking irreguarly, and a daily ferry service.

I’m not sure that most people who voted for Brexit gave a second thought to what might be the case with wages for workers coming here on a foreign registered ship wilts.


I understand they voted for the laws that governed work and workers in this country to be made in this country. That's what they told me on here.

Now either they were wrong - the laws that govern work and workers in the UK cannot be made in the UK - or the government does not wish to enforce a minimum wage law on all shipping/ferries that dock in the UK.

That's the answer to your earlier question.

The strange thing is though wilts that the majority of people I know, leading up to the vote, who were in favour of Brexit, told me they wanted to get back control of our borders.
I don’t recall them saying much, if anything, about other things.

Hounslowrover

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Re: P&O Ferries sack staff
« Reply #122 on April 02, 2022, 06:52:51 pm by Hounslowrover »
How about sovereignty and whatever that means about making our own rules.

SydneyRover

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Re: P&O Ferries sack staff
« Reply #123 on April 02, 2022, 09:08:30 pm by SydneyRover »
People voted for a better life, better than Austerity. They voted for what they were told they would get, a much better NHS, all the good jobs they could want as there would no foreigners here taking the best ones and 'stealing' all the welfare money, a prosperous country with plenty for everyone, trade deals coming out of your backside and sovrenty.


SydneyRover

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Re: P&O Ferries sack staff
« Reply #124 on April 02, 2022, 10:26:23 pm by SydneyRover »
And this leaflet provided by Branton is a much easier message to absorb especially with Austerity and people actually starving to death with cuts to everything, why wouldn't those in this position vote for the sunny uplands.

1. A well funded NHS
2. take back control of laws (sovrenty)
3. A fairer immigration system, keeping the attractive coloured doctors but stopping the 'nasty Turks'
4. Trade deals everywhere and again taking back control.
5. A safer choice, stop the imaginary subsidising of the EU.

https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/voteleave/pages/2318/attachments/original/1458915760/Vote_Leave_8pg_leaflet_print.pdf?1458915760

Branton Red

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Re: P&O Ferries sack staff
« Reply #125 on April 02, 2022, 10:31:49 pm by Branton Red »
And this leaflet provided by Branton is a much easier message to absorb especially with Austerity and people actually starving to death with cuts to everything, why wouldn't those in this position vote for the sunny uplands.

1. A well funded NHS
2. take back control of laws (sovrenty)
3. A fairer immigration system, keeping the attractive coloured doctors but stopping the 'nasty Turks'
4. Trade deals everywhere and again taking back control.
5. A safer choice, stop the imaginary subsidising of the EU.

https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/voteleave/pages/2318/attachments/original/1458915760/Vote_Leave_8pg_leaflet_print.pdf?1458915760

Oi Sydney - go find your own material  ;)

SydneyRover

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Re: P&O Ferries sack staff
« Reply #126 on April 02, 2022, 11:32:53 pm by SydneyRover »
And this leaflet provided by Branton is a much easier message to absorb especially with Austerity and people actually starving to death with cuts to everything, why wouldn't those in this position vote for the sunny uplands.

1. A well funded NHS
2. take back control of laws (sovrenty)
3. A fairer immigration system, keeping the attractive coloured doctors but stopping the 'nasty Turks'
4. Trade deals everywhere and again taking back control.
5. A safer choice, stop the imaginary subsidising of the EU.

https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/voteleave/pages/2318/attachments/original/1458915760/Vote_Leave_8pg_leaflet_print.pdf?1458915760

Oi Sydney - go find your own material  ;)

this is 'big society' at work, where we're all in it together, helping each other  ;)

SydneyRover

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Re: P&O Ferries sack staff
« Reply #127 on April 08, 2022, 02:33:06 am by SydneyRover »
''P&O Ferries owner DP World loses status as partner in Solent freeport
Exclusive: ministers confirm Emirati logistics giant no longer has central role after anger at sacking of 800 workers''

''The government has come under heavy pressure for its handling of employment rights and the role of DP World in critical UK infrastructure after P&O Ferries fired 800 crew members without consultation last month. The firm’s boss admitted to MPs the company broke the law on giving notice because “no union could accept our proposals”.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/apr/07/po-owner-dp-world-loses-status-as-partner-in-solent-freeport#:~:text=P%26O%20Ferries%20owner%20DP%20World%20loses%20status%20as%20partner%20in%20Solent%20freeport,-Exclusive%3A%20ministers%20confirm&text=The%20Dubai%2Dbased%20owner%20of,of%20800%20workers%20last%20month.

The government didn't change legislation to stop fire & rehire, then they said they would take them to court, now they try to look like they are doing something, but have they changed the law to stop fire & rehire is there any intention to do so?

There is nothing more clumsy than an embarrassed government aye.

normal rules

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Re: P&O Ferries sack staff
« Reply #128 on April 08, 2022, 04:56:19 pm by normal rules »
Summat going very wrong at p and o.
Yesterday they said Dover - Calais would be back up and running this weekend.
Today they have suspended all sailings this weekend. Telling customers to book elsewhere!!!
Thats allegedly 40,000 bookings.
And just who else do they go to?
Eurotunnel full.
Stena line full.

 

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