It could have been written about Rovers...

[Daniel_Smith]

Was reading this write up about Scunthorpe United's relegation out of football league:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61033835

... and I could be reading into Rover's future! This paragraph got me the most:

"Whilst some fans are angered by the current state of the club and this situation, many almost seem numb to it now and were resigned to their fate a long time before the dreaded 'R' was placed next to their name on the league table."

When will this club wake up? We're sleep walking out of the whole football league like Scunny!

[BVB]

Now give us a comparison of the ownership of the two clubs.

[silent majority]

I know the senior members of the Supporters Trust at Scunthorpe very well, in fact I gave them some help in setting up the trust originally. We have met often and they occasionally seek my advice on certain issues and on occasion.

I can tell you that the two clubs are polar opposites in the way they are run, the desire and the approach are completely at odds with each other. Peter Swann has been a disastrous owner and just about everything he has done has been about him. The planning applications that have gone wrong, the separation of the assets from the club itself all scream of poor and malicious management.

To compare our club with Scunthorpe is at best misguided, at worst its a vicious assault on owners who have always done what they thought was best for DRFC. Yes results have been bad for 18 months or so, but that's not a reason to support that kind of comparison.

[Campsall rover]

Was reading this write up about Scunthorpe United's relegation out of football league:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61033835

... and I could be reading into Rover's future! This paragraph got me the most:

"Whilst some fans are angered by the current state of the club and this situation, many almost seem numb to it now and were resigned to their fate a long time before the dreaded 'R' was placed next to their name on the league table."


When will this club wake up? We're sleep walking out of the whole football league like Scunny!

No we are not. Not a chance. We are going to be strong next season in League 2.
To compare us to Scunthorpe is way way off the mark.

[Chris Black come back]

Looking at the squad of players we will own next season, of the adjectives that come to mind, “strong” is not one that many would immediately attribute.

[Colemans Left Hook]

Was reading this write up about Scunthorpe United's relegation out of football league:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61033835

... and I could be reading into Rover's future! This paragraph got me the most:

"Whilst some fans are angered by the current state of the club and this situation, many almost seem numb to it now and were resigned to their fate a long time before the dreaded 'R' was placed next to their name on the league table."

When will this club wake up? We're sleep walking out of the whole football league like Scunny!

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i have just done my due diligence on this original poster   . Here we have an ALLEGED  NEWBIE who after joining  REALLY GOT HIS MONEY WITH  or should we say unusually knew the price of fish no coconut shyness here (obviously we have a man sorry wimp on a mission.
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we get 2 posts the day the "virgin " joined  8 posts in just over  WEEK

THE BIG ISSUE is what other user names do you post under ???  so what was your previous user name and what will your next one be ??  how many user ID'S do you post under ?
for those who dont know "the swan" "married into the wilko business" - (as in money) and they sold their shares  to other members of the family


In simple terms the stadium cannot be stolen from the club except by the landlord (the club has rock solid foundations)
L

to describe the said person as a disaster is being kind

[drfchound]

Was reading this write up about Scunthorpe United's relegation out of football league:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61033835

... and I could be reading into Rover's future! This paragraph got me the most:

"Whilst some fans are angered by the current state of the club and this situation, many almost seem numb to it now and were resigned to their fate a long time before the dreaded 'R' was placed next to their name on the league table."


When will this club wake up? We're sleep walking out of the whole football league like Scunny!

No we are not. Not a chance. We are going to be strong next season in League 2.
To compare us to Scunthorpe is way way off the mark.

Camps, this time last year would you say that you didn’t expect us to be in our current position a year later.

[Daniel_Smith]

Was reading this write up about Scunthorpe United's relegation out of football league:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61033835

... and I could be reading into Rover's future! This paragraph got me the most:

"Whilst some fans are angered by the current state of the club and this situation, many almost seem numb to it now and were resigned to their fate a long time before the dreaded 'R' was placed next to their name on the league table."

When will this club wake up? We're sleep walking out of the whole football league like Scunny!

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i have just done my due diligence on this original poster   . Here we have an ALLEGED  NEWBIE who after joining  REALLY GOT HIS MONEY WITH  or should we say unusually knew the price of fish no coconut shyness here (obviously we have a man sorry wimp on a mission.
========================================

Date Registered:
    August 10, 2021, 07:26:10 pm
Local Time:
   
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we get 2 posts the day the "virgin " joined  8 posts in just over  WEEK

THE BIG ISSUE is what other user names do you post under ???  so what was your previous user name and what will your next one be ??  how many user ID'S do you post under ?
for those who dont know "the swan" "married into the wilko business" - (as in money) and they sold their shares  to other members of the family


In simple terms the stadium cannot be stolen from the club except by the landlord (the club has rock solid foundations)
L

to describe the said person as a disaster is being kind

Yep, I'm every member of this forum who dares to have a go at this board and how they've ran things recently.

I'm basically the same person with several different accounts.

You've rumbled me!!!

Just for everyone else's benefit - the only people on this forum who aren't just the same person posting under different aliases, are those who praise this fantastic board and the brilliant job they've done with Club Doncaster.

Can I also add the board will be very happy with your unwavering support and apathy.

[oggycompton]

I know the senior members of the Supporters Trust, at Scunthorpe,  very well, in fact I gave the some help in setting up the trust originally. We have met often and they occasionally seek my advice on certain issues and on occasion.

I can tell you that the two clubs are polar opposites in the way they are run, the desire and the approach are completely at odds with each other. Peter Swann has been a disastrous owner and just about everything he has done has been about him. The planning applications that have gone wrong, the separation of the assets from the club itself all scream of poor and malicious management.

To compare our club with Scunthorpe is at best misguided, at worst its a vicious assault on owners who have always done what they thought was best for DRFC. Yes results have been bad for 18 months or so, but that's not a reason to support that kind of comparison.

Solid club management top to bottom this season and the last three or four. Countless transfer windows mucked up, managers leaving with ease and we have this shambles this season.

Stop defending the club, its pathetic

[Ldr]

Have you paid up yet?

[oggycompton]

I donated to charity, much like our club donates 3 points week in week out.

[Ldr]

Best answer I have read all year, kudos

[DonnyOsmond]

Tbf 2 relegations in 7 years with a budget that isn't bottom 10 in either season is shocking and the boards strategy of how they chose to run the footballing side can be criticised and is largely the reason for our predicament. GB may be doing a good job with the business side of things but as a board they've always been poor collectively when it comes to the football side. The previous relegation was shit but forgivable IMO, as it was as a result of Paul Dickov, this one however is a result of Blunt, Baldwin and Bramall. It might be time to for them to start encouraging offers as the current hierarchy isn't working.

[RoversAlias]

I'm sick of hearing about how well run the club is by Bramall/Blunt/Baldwin.

We never hear about which of the three actually makes all these dreadful decisions which have directly led to our second completely avoidable relegation in less than 10 years.

Butler was thrown under the bus, as was McSheffrey. Both bad appointments of people not ready for the role. Other managers have clearly not been given the resources to actually compete, and when they have it has been spent largely on dross.

I can count the few players who show any desire or care for the club's fortunes on one hand when I watch a game.

It's a complete travesty and nothing suggests those in charge will sort it, because most of these problems were glaringly obvious a year ago.

[drfchound]

I'm sick of hearing about how well run the club is by Bramall/Blunt/Baldwin.

We never hear about which of the three actually makes all these dreadful decisions which have directly led to our second completely avoidable relegation in less than 10 years.

Butler was thrown under the bus, as was McSheffrey. Both bad appointments of people not ready for the role. Other managers have clearly not been given the resources to actually compete, and when they have it has been spent largely on dross.

I can count the few players who show any desire or care for the club's fortunes on one hand when I watch a game.

It's a complete travesty and nothing suggests those in charge will sort it, because most of these problems were glaringly obvious a year ago.

Seconded.

[Chris Black come back]

I’ll pass on pointing the finger at anyone but what is true is that as a club we have seemingly lost any hunger or desire on the pitch.

I started making this point last season, talking about the almost total absence of clean sheets. It was for me the canary in the coal mine. We were letting in silly goals, even when we were winning. It looked odd compared to other seasons and was for me the start of something. The normalisation of failure.

This season though has taken it to a whole different level. We have lost a colossal number of games. It’s now over 2/3 this season and about the same going back 18 months. Nobody on the pitch seems to show any real shame over this. It’s shrugging shoulders and ‘we go again’.

[BigH]

Agree with your points CBCB and would argue that the lack of leadership on the pitch - with the honourable exception of Rowe - has been a key factor. We haven’t had enough leadership to carry us through at Northern Counties league level let alone L1.

The biggest most obvious recruitment requirement ahead of next season in my view.

[silent majority]

I'm sick of hearing about how well run the club is by Bramall/Blunt/Baldwin.

We never hear about which of the three actually makes all these dreadful decisions which have directly led to our second completely avoidable relegation in less than 10 years.

Butler was thrown under the bus, as was McSheffrey. Both bad appointments of people not ready for the role. Other managers have clearly not been given the resources to actually compete, and when they have it has been spent largely on dross.

I can count the few players who show any desire or care for the club's fortunes on one hand when I watch a game.

It's a complete travesty and nothing suggests those in charge will sort it, because most of these problems were glaringly obvious a year ago.

You do realise that nobody has mentioned how well run the club is?

This thread is about the comparison between Scunthorpe Utd and DRFC, and one that I have much more knowledge of than just about anybody who's decided to comment.

[silent majority]

I'm sick of hearing about how well run the club is by Bramall/Blunt/Baldwin.

We never hear about which of the three actually makes all these dreadful decisions which have directly led to our second completely avoidable relegation in less than 10 years.

Butler was thrown under the bus, as was McSheffrey. Both bad appointments of people not ready for the role. Other managers have clearly not been given the resources to actually compete, and when they have it has been spent largely on dross.

I can count the few players who show any desire or care for the club's fortunes on one hand when I watch a game.

It's a complete travesty and nothing suggests those in charge will sort it, because most of these problems were glaringly obvious a year ago.

Seconded.

Bully for you.

[silent majority]

I know the senior members of the Supporters Trust, at Scunthorpe,  very well, in fact I gave the some help in setting up the trust originally. We have met often and they occasionally seek my advice on certain issues and on occasion.

I can tell you that the two clubs are polar opposites in the way they are run, the desire and the approach are completely at odds with each other. Peter Swann has been a disastrous owner and just about everything he has done has been about him. The planning applications that have gone wrong, the separation of the assets from the club itself all scream of poor and malicious management.

To compare our club with Scunthorpe is at best misguided, at worst its a vicious assault on owners who have always done what they thought was best for DRFC. Yes results have been bad for 18 months or so, but that's not a reason to support that kind of comparison.

Solid club management top to bottom this season and the last three or four. Countless transfer windows mucked up, managers leaving with ease and we have this shambles this season.

Stop defending the club, its pathetic

You need to read a bit of poetry, try Rudyard Kipling.

[RoversAlias]

I'm sick of hearing about how well run the club is by Bramall/Blunt/Baldwin.

We never hear about which of the three actually makes all these dreadful decisions which have directly led to our second completely avoidable relegation in less than 10 years.

Butler was thrown under the bus, as was McSheffrey. Both bad appointments of people not ready for the role. Other managers have clearly not been given the resources to actually compete, and when they have it has been spent largely on dross.

I can count the few players who show any desire or care for the club's fortunes on one hand when I watch a game.

It's a complete travesty and nothing suggests those in charge will sort it, because most of these problems were glaringly obvious a year ago.

You do realise that nobody has mentioned how well run the club is?

This thread is about the comparison between Scunthorpe Utd and DRFC, and one that I have much more knowledge of than just about anybody who's decided to comment.

Nothing you've said here disproves anything I said in my original post.

If you're still performing the VSC role (genuinely I'm not sure when you're retiring from the post) then I hope you have conveyed in your discussions how lacklustre the "response" from messrs Bramall, Blunt and Baldwin is on this sorry joke of a season. I hope they won't come out with something similar to what Lee Turnbull did at Scunny over the weekend.

[oggycompton]

I know the senior members of the Supporters Trust, at Scunthorpe,  very well, in fact I gave the some help in setting up the trust originally. We have met often and they occasionally seek my advice on certain issues and on occasion.

I can tell you that the two clubs are polar opposites in the way they are run, the desire and the approach are completely at odds with each other. Peter Swann has been a disastrous owner and just about everything he has done has been about him. The planning applications that have gone wrong, the separation of the assets from the club itself all scream of poor and malicious management.

To compare our club with Scunthorpe is at best misguided, at worst its a vicious assault on owners who have always done what they thought was best for DRFC. Yes results have been bad for 18 months or so, but that's not a reason to support that kind of comparison.

Solid club management top to bottom this season and the last three or four. Countless transfer windows mucked up, managers leaving with ease and we have this shambles this season.

Stop defending the club, its pathetic

You need to read a bit of poetry, try Rudyard Kipling.

Utterly utterly blinkered

[since-1969]

Some peoples opinion matters more others ?

[oggycompton]

Some peoples opinion matters more others ?

Always been the case. 'I know this person, I know that person.'


Nobody cares. I care about football and that has been awful all season and tehre needs to be accountability.

[silent majority]

I'm sick of hearing about how well run the club is by Bramall/Blunt/Baldwin.

We never hear about which of the three actually makes all these dreadful decisions which have directly led to our second completely avoidable relegation in less than 10 years.

Butler was thrown under the bus, as was McSheffrey. Both bad appointments of people not ready for the role. Other managers have clearly not been given the resources to actually compete, and when they have it has been spent largely on dross.

I can count the few players who show any desire or care for the club's fortunes on one hand when I watch a game.

It's a complete travesty and nothing suggests those in charge will sort it, because most of these problems were glaringly obvious a year ago.

You do realise that nobody has mentioned how well run the club is?

This thread is about the comparison between Scunthorpe Utd and DRFC, and one that I have much more knowledge of than just about anybody who's decided to comment.

Nothing you've said here disproves anything I said in my original post.

If you're still performing the VSC role (genuinely I'm not sure when you're retiring from the post) then I hope you have conveyed in your discussions how lacklustre the "response" from messrs Bramall, Blunt and Baldwin is on this sorry joke of a season. I hope they won't come out with something similar to what Lee Turnbull did at Scunny over the weekend.

The point I was making is that there's a distinction between the point the OP made and how you've reacted in your post.

Your post is very much your opinion though and can't be supported. For instance, you mention that 'Other managers have clearly not been given the resources to actually compete, and when they have it has been spent largely on dross'. You can't support that, resources have been made available, and I find it difficult to support similar arguments when the accounts show a completely different picture.

I have stepped down from all my roles in football, however the VSC one is a bit difficult as this season is not playing out the way I hoped.

[dickos1]

Looking at the squad of players we will own next season, of the adjectives that come to mind, “strong” is not one that many would immediately attribute.

In comparison to Scunthorpe’s squad it’s far better

[dickos1]

Comparing Scunthorpe’s situation to ours is embarrassing , and just shows a lack of knowledge and general intelligence

[Colemans Left Hook]

QUICK MATHS LESSON A+B=C

LET B=0
C = THE THE TOTAL AMOUNT PUT IN A POT OF MONEY

THEN A=C

CONCLUSION
A IS PUTTING ALL THE MONEY IN

BE GRATEFUL "A" IS PUTTING THE MONEY IN
NOW CLICK ON THIS LINK 

https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/

14TH JULY 2020 
THIS IS WHEN IT ALL STARTED

" It is with sadness that the VSC learnt the news of Andrew Watson taking the decison to leave his position on the Board of Doncaster Rovers.

We have been aware for some months that Andrew had been considering stepping down from his Board position as Vice Chairman, which he undertook in 2016, and had been expecting this day to come.  Obviously, we would have preferred Andrew to stay, especially as a lifelong and passionate Rovers fan with the club's best interest firmly front and centre in all he did for and with the club, and we did express that opinion, but we have the utmost respect for him reaching this difficult decision.

It would be remiss of us not to mention that his participation in our club, and that of the wider Watson family, has been incredibly beneficial to all of us. Their presence in our club has seen the success, on and off the field, exceed anything that we could possibly have imagined as recently as 15 years ago. They have helped create the conditions to enable some wonderful memories, but what many fan's maybe wont appreciate is just how Andrew has participation in our fan engagement schemes. Our meetings with him found him to be enthusiatic and productive and helped the club and fans build something enduring and beneficial, something that he can always be proud of.

Andrew's sister, Sarah, is also stepping down from club involvement.  We hope to see them and the family around the stadium sometime soon, when we all can get back to enjoying our club and supporting the team. Andrew and Sarah leave with our best wishes and our continued friendship. 

It just remains to say a huge thank you to them for all they've done for the club and the fans."


THE HUNT FOR THE NEW "B"  GOES ON


WE GOT LUCKY EARLY LAST SEASON  TAYLOR RICHARDS WAS THE CULPRIT WHO TOOK US UP THE TABLE AND GAVE US FALSE HOPES - HOW DARE HE !!! Grrrrh!!

[ravenrover]

Some peoples opinion matters more others ?

Always been the case. 'I know this person, I know that person.'


Nobody cares. I care about football and that has been awful all season and tehre needs to be accountability.

Having not yet read all the threads tonight you have cropped uo on everyone and  have slated the club at every opportunity

[jamesrover17]

Looking at the squad of players we will own next season, of the adjectives that come to mind, “strong” is not one that many would immediately attribute.

Have to agree with this, I think there will be a lot of expectation for us to walk the league next season, we won’t, I don’t even think we will crack the top 7, there are teams better equipped and some big teams coming up from the conference, I think radio sheffield nailed it after the Bolton game, we will be in league 2 for a good few years