Elections

[DRCraig]

All vote. Otherwise you are not getting your point across. Even if you feel they are all rubbish. Vote for the best of the bad bunch !

[BillyStubbsTears]

Amen to that. Get out and vote.

[Draytonian III]

Not every council are voting this year. If you don’t vote don’t complain, this is why it’s called a democracy

[Ldr]

Democratic duty done, real lack of choice though, def need a ‘none of the above’ option.

Labour conservative or green. 2 of which I couldn’t vote for so green it was

[bpoolrover]

Democratic duty done, real lack of choice though, def need a ‘none of the above’ option.

Labour conservative or green. 2 of which I couldn’t vote for so green it was

I know so many people in the same position apart from they just decided not to vote today it will be interesting to see national turnout

[danumdon]

I'm still amazed how anyone in any Doncaster Borough council area can bear to vote Labour after the Labour run council Planning committee managed to fiddle what was green belt land into the borough's 10year regeneration plan, this allowed the fiddling councillors to rubber stamp the building of an illegal very large housing development at Old Rossington.

The fact they got caught and the main culprits locked up should of instigated a far more rigorous investigation into what had gone on with the council, housing developers and the corrupt councillors.

Its just a bit more than hearsay that this was well know at the time in Council circles but like a lot of their business at this time it was brushed under the carpet hoping that no one would come snooping.

Always amazed me that left wing agitators would never bother themselves with outing this failing council, to the point that they end up on Government special measures because they can't run council services to the minimum standard required. I wonder why?

IF its not fiddling planning councillors its piss poor early years and social services management that oversaw some of the worst child protection issues on record, ANYWHERE in this country.

and we are supposed to hold our noses and vote for the least worst option, yea right.

[ravenrover]

Crikey if you think thas bad have a look at what Nottingham City Council have been found out on, thankfully not our Council down here in Snottingham

[Bentley Bullet]

I'm still amazed how anyone in any Doncaster Borough council area can bear to vote Labour after the Labour run council Planning committee managed to fiddle what was green belt land into the borough's 10year regeneration plan, this allowed the fiddling councillors to rubber stamp the building of an illegal very large housing development at Old Rossington.

The fact they got caught and the main culprits locked up should of instigated a far more rigorous investigation into what had gone on with the council, housing developers and the corrupt councillors.

Its just a bit more than hearsay that this was well know at the time in Council circles but like a lot of their business at this time it was brushed under the carpet hoping that no one would come snooping.

Always amazed me that left wing agitators would never bother themselves with outing this failing council, to the point that they end up on Government special measures because they can't run council services to the minimum standard required. I wonder why?

IF its not fiddling planning councillors its piss poor early years and social services management that oversaw some of the worst child protection issues on record, ANYWHERE in this country.

and we are supposed to hold our noses and vote for the least worst option, yea right.

Aye, you try and tell the Labour voters of today that, and they won't believe you...

[DonnyOsmond]

It might have happened, but it isn't a reason to not vote Labour now (decades on) if Labour's policies are something you're interested in, if not then fair enough.

We've got an actual PM who broke the law and a government that gives billions to their mates for good/services where they have never dealt in those sectors before, and people on here are alright with it...

[Bentley Bullet]

Who's voting for a PM?

[DonnyOsmond]

Who's voting for a PM?

No one today. Indirectly the electorate will be in a couple of years. Why?

[BillyStubbsTears]

Every single person in the country BB.

The only way the spineless wretches in the Tory party will get rid of Johnson is if they know without doubt that he is an electoral liability. If the Tories lose very heavily today, Johnson is gone before the Autumn. If they do well today, Johnson is PM until the next General Election. 

[Bentley Bullet]

Who's voting for a PM?

No one today. Indirectly the electorate will be in a couple of years. Why?

Why? Because you mention the PM when the discussion was about local elections!

[drfchound]

“The spineless wretches in the Tory Party”.

Are you saying they are all the same bst.

[DonnyOsmond]

Who's voting for a PM?

No one today. Indirectly the electorate will be in a couple of years. Why?

Why? Because you mention the PM when the discussion was about local elections!

I assume you understood my point but you're just being pedantic. My point was about standards, we've got a person on this thread questioning people being pro-Labour in Doncaster due to something that happened a fair bit ago, yet what we have currently in government people don't bat an eyelid at.

[danumdon]

It might have happened, but it isn't a reason to not vote Labour now (decades on) if Labour's policies are something you're interested in, if not then fair enough.

We've got an actual PM who broke the law and a government that gives billions to their mates for good/services where they have never dealt in those sectors before, and people on here are alright with it...

Fine piece of Whataboutery there, and you managed to squeeze in a piece on Johnson to boot. Were talking local elections  numbnuts, no one here is interested in Johnson.

OK so if that polished piece of corruption was not current enough for you how about the current housing development at Manor farm just off Bawtry road, every man,dog and his Mrs in Bessacarr did not want to have that development take place so what did A labour Doncaster Council do after the planning permission was booted out because of the general outcry in Doncaster?

They only went and appealed it to the secretary of state to overturn the original decision.

So what kind of a council do the people of Doncastrer want, one that follows up its stated aims to stand up for the community and do its bidding, or one that has its own agenda(allegedly sweetened by plenty of overstuffed envelopes to the right Councillors) and rides roughshod over public opinion and ignores there requirements because it doesn't suit their questionable machinations.

These are the type of councillors you are voting for, and we call other countries as corrupt states.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Some potentially libelous stuff in that post DO.

Do you have any evidence whatsoever of corruption among current councillors?

[danumdon]

Are you sure about that?

[DonnyOsmond]

It might have happened, but it isn't a reason to not vote Labour now (decades on) if Labour's policies are something you're interested in, if not then fair enough.

We've got an actual PM who broke the law and a government that gives billions to their mates for good/services where they have never dealt in those sectors before, and people on here are alright with it...

Fine piece of Whataboutery there, and you managed to squeeze in a piece on Johnson to boot. Were talking local elections  numbnuts, no one here is interested in Johnson.

OK so if that polished piece of corruption was not current enough for you how about the current housing development at Manor farm just off Bawtry road, every man,dog and his Mrs in Bessacarr did not want to have that development take place so what did A labour Doncaster Council do after the planning permission was booted out because of the general outcry in Doncaster?

They only went and appealed it to the secretary of state to overturn the original decision.

So what kind of a council do the people of Doncastrer want, one that follows up its stated aims to stand up for the community and do its bidding, or one that has its own agenda(no doubt sweetened by plenty of overstuffed envelopes to the right Councillors) and rides roughshod over public opinion and ignores there requirements because it doesn't suit their corrupt machinations.

These are the type of councillors you are voting for, and we call other countries as corrupt states.

Ahh, so I assume you'll be voting against the Tories in a couple of years if you're so against corruption. (sorry for mentioning his name or talking national and not local xx)

I'll exit this thread now x

[DonnyOsmond]

Some potentially libelous stuff in that post DO.

Do you have any evidence whatsoever of corruption among current councillors?

Me? Did you mean danumdon?

[danumdon]

It might have happened, but it isn't a reason to not vote Labour now (decades on) if Labour's policies are something you're interested in, if not then fair enough.

We've got an actual PM who broke the law and a government that gives billions to their mates for good/services where they have never dealt in those sectors before, and people on here are alright with it...

Fine piece of Whataboutery there, and you managed to squeeze in a piece on Johnson to boot. Were talking local elections  numbnuts, no one here is interested in Johnson.

OK so if that polished piece of corruption was not current enough for you how about the current housing development at Manor farm just off Bawtry road, every man,dog and his Mrs in Bessacarr did not want to have that development take place so what did A labour Doncaster Council do after the planning permission was booted out because of the general outcry in Doncaster?

They only went and appealed it to the secretary of state to overturn the original decision.

So what kind of a council do the people of Doncastrer want, one that follows up its stated aims to stand up for the community and do its bidding, or one that has its own agenda(allegedly sweetened by plenty of overstuffed envelopes to the right Councillors) and rides roughshod over public opinion and ignores their requirements because it doesn't suit their questionable machinations.

These are the type of councillors you are voting for, and we call other countries as corrupt states.

[danumdon]

Some potentially libelous stuff in that post DO.

Do you have any evidence whatsoever of corruption among current councillors?

I dont have any evidence at hand.

What i do have is the words of Doncaster council stating that they do the bidding of the people of this borough and then they go and do the totally oppisite. Now if that's not a lack of decent standards, now, 10 or 20years ago i dont know what is.

[Filo]

It might have happened, but it isn't a reason to not vote Labour now (decades on) if Labour's policies are something you're interested in, if not then fair enough.

We've got an actual PM who broke the law and a government that gives billions to their mates for good/services where they have never dealt in those sectors before, and people on here are alright with it...

Fine piece of Whataboutery there, and you managed to squeeze in a piece on Johnson to boot. Were talking local elections  numbnuts, no one here is interested in Johnson.

OK so if that polished piece of corruption was not current enough for you how about the current housing development at Manor farm just off Bawtry road, every man,dog and his Mrs in Bessacarr did not want to have that development take place so what did A labour Doncaster Council do after the planning permission was booted out because of the general outcry in Doncaster?

They only went and appealed it to the secretary of state to overturn the original decision.

So what kind of a council do the people of Doncastrer want, one that follows up its stated aims to stand up for the community and do its bidding, or one that has its own agenda(allegedly sweetened by plenty of overstuffed envelopes to the right Councillors) and rides roughshod over public opinion and ignores there requirements because it doesn't suit their questionable machinations.

These are the type of councillors you are voting for, and we call other countries as corrupt states.

That would be a Tory Secretary of State?

Doncaster planning booted it out, surely it was the developers that appealed it, as they were the ones applying in the first place

[BillyStubbsTears]

Some potentially libelous stuff in that post DO.

Do you have any evidence whatsoever of corruption among current councillors?

Me? Did you mean danumdon?

I did. Apologies for the mistake.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Some potentially libelous stuff in that post DO.

Do you have any evidence whatsoever of corruption among current councillors?

I dont have any evidence at hand.

What i do have is the words of Doncaster council stating that they do the bidding of the people of this borough and then they go and do the totally oppisite. Now if that's not a lack of decent standards, now, 10 or 20years ago i dont know what is.

Like Filo says, are you 100% sure you've got this right. The Council appealing a Council decision sounds biza...odd.

[turnbull for england]

Ahem , https://www.pressreader.com/uk/yorkshire-post/20110613/281934539562888

Feel free to pay attention to the bit that points out DMBC turned it down twice , before being overruled by ministers

[danumdon]

Yes, i may have jumped the gun here, (holding my hands up)

https://doncaster.moderngov.co.uk/Data/Planning%20Committee/201112131400/Agenda/$Plan%20Sch%20Appl%201%20rpt6.doc.pdf

What i should of said was that the local councillors at the time, (not all Labour)had agreed with the local pressure group that it was best not to proceed but when it came to the vote, The whole council(predominantly Labour) decided it would grant permission even with the strong disagreement of the local community that would have to put up with the additional issues that this development would bring.

I don't know if your familiar with this issue but it's a very large housing estate that is being built on a locally known floodplain, it has one (1) access and egress road to and from this soon to be massive housing estate. this road joins onto Bawtry Road between the Lincoln railway line bridge overbridge and the M18 roadbridge so a very tight location was able to accommodate this road access.

It has at the other end of the estate a couple of level crossings across the Lincoln railway line, both which are not suitable for any sort of traffic flow and which themselves back onto another housing estate.

The traffic on Bawtry Road on  weekday rush hours is ridiculous at the best of times, added to the Cantly crawl they both make mornings into Donny town centre a bind, this estate is making it worse and in future will make it even worse that that.

Something that the locals really didn't want and have had to put up with because of a poor decision by Donny Council.

[BillyStubbsTears]

when it came to the vote, The whole council(predominantly Labour) decided it would grant permission

I'm still not getting this. If this is the case, why was there any need for an appeal and who appealed?

[danumdon]

Ahem , https://www.pressreader.com/uk/yorkshire-post/20110613/281934539562888

Feel free to pay attention to the bit that points out DMBC turned it down twice , before being overruled by ministers

The article from the Yorkshire Press is not the full story, it does not preface the fact that at plenty of stages before it had to grant permission they could of stopped this development on many differing grounds, some are mentioned in the copy, others are not, for example it mentions that the Lincoln line has 3 trains an hour, i live backing onto the Lincoln line and can tell you that freight trains now run on that line all day and night (ever since the GNGE upgrades on the line)

They also could of stopped it in its tracks previously when Persimmon first brought the site as it was a protected area of ancient woodland and marsh, this they allowed to set aside for the development.

The fact that it also floods, regularly is something that prospective owners will find out about in due course with obvious massive implications for house insurance. They have tried to raise the ground levels here but i doubt the job has been done sufficiently. If you asked me a house on certain parts of this estate will be worthless in the near future if current environmental predictions are confirmed.

Still back to the point, Donny Council had years to knock the developers back many times and either incompetence or other considerations prevailed,

Did i vote, what do you think.

[Filo]

Ahem , https://www.pressreader.com/uk/yorkshire-post/20110613/281934539562888

Feel free to pay attention to the bit that points out DMBC turned it down twice , before being overruled by ministers

The article from the Yorkshire Press is not the full story, it does not preface the fact that at plenty of stages before it had to grant permission they could of stopped this development on many differing grounds, some are mentioned in the copy, others are not, for example it mentions that the Lincoln line has 3 trains an hour, i live backing onto the Lincoln line and can tell you that freight trains now run on that line all day and night (ever since the GNGE upgrades on the line)

They also could of stopped it in its tracks previously when Persimmon first brought the site as it was a protected area of ancient woodland and marsh, this they allowed to set aside for the development.

The fact that it also floods, regularly is something that prospective owners will find out about in due course with obvious massive implications for house insurance. They have tried to raise the ground levels here but i doubt the job has been done sufficiently. If you asked me a house on certain parts of this estate will be worthless in the near future if current environmental predictions are confirmed.

Still back to the point, Donny Council had years to knock the developers back many times and either incompetence or other considerations prevailed,

Did i vote, what do you think.

Doncaster Council blocked planning

A Tory secretary of State overturned that decision