Car tax bands.

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I had to tax my car the other day. It’s my runaround and is a small economical vw up. It cost me £20 for the year. It’s a 2014 model.
For those that don’t know the Vw up has had pretty much the same engine from its first production. A three cylinder, 1.0 affair. 99% of the range have either 60 or 70ps . The exception being the gti variant. Of which there are few.
I did a check and depending on year of manufacture you can spend anything from £20 to £165 tax a year for essentially the same car. This seems utterly daft.
My other car is a LR discovery 3. It’s a 55 plate . It’s something like £265 a year tax. If it was a 2006 year, with exactly the same engine , power output and emissions, it’s nearly double that.
Ridiculous.
So if u are in the market for a used car, check the tax bands from year to year. You may be surprised.

[River Don]

I got a Golf blue motion. No road tax because of its green credentials.

Then diesel went from being good, on Co2 to bad on particulates.

Now on the odd occasion I visit my sister in London, I have to pay to go in the clean air zone. Still zero road tax though.

[Belle_Vue]

Car tax system changed in 2017. Cars registered after either April or March that year play the standard rate which is £170 for the year I believe. Unless the car was over 40k new. Then for the first 5 years you pay a premium.

[Filo]

BMW, 2.5l petrol I had was around £550 a year, Ford Kuga 2l I got now is around £265

[BobG]

I pay £600 a year for one of mine.... Stupid!

BobG

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I’ve got a feeling post 2030 car tax for diesel and petrol cars will go to the moon.

[River Don]

I’ve got a feeling post 2030 car tax for diesel and petrol cars will go to the moon.

It might depend on how the electric roll out has gone. At the moment I would not like to make the journey from York to London in an electric.

There was a dealer on the Radio the other day, who said in his opinion electric cars are being missold. They should be advertised as city cars.

[normal rules]

A potential work around is that anyone wanting to drive into one of the big cities that are going ulez, some already of course, is that you must be in an electric car. No exceptions. Leaving rural areas for petrol, diesel still with pay per mile tax on fossil fuel cars.

[turnbull for england]

I had to tax my car the other day. It’s my runaround and is a small economical vw up. It cost me £20 for the year. It’s a 2014 model.
For those that don’t know the Vw up has had pretty much the same engine from its first production. A three cylinder, 1.0 affair. 99% of the range have either 60 or 70ps . The exception being the gti variant. Of which there are few.
I did a check and depending on year of manufacture you can spend anything from £20 to £165 tax a year for essentially the same car. This seems utterly daft.
My other car is a LR discovery 3. It’s a 55 plate . It’s something like £265 a year tax. If it was a 2006 year, with exactly the same engine , power output and emissions, it’s nearly double that.
Ridiculous.
So if u are in the market for a used car, check the tax bands from year to year. You may be surprised.

for


We had an up , 20 quid a year . Swapped it for a new A1 same engine 140 quid as was new and changed brackets.  Woman at work has a 1.5 range rover Evoque pays 30 quid . Odd system

[Janso]

I’ve got a feeling post 2030 car tax for diesel and petrol cars will go to the moon.

It might depend on how the electric roll out has gone. At the moment I would not like to make the journey from York to London in an electric.

There was a dealer on the Radio the other day, who said in his opinion electric cars are being missold. They should be advertised as city cars.

You say that, I went to Oxford, Wycombe and Cheltenham games and back in my EV without a hitch.

[drfchound]

I’ve got a feeling post 2030 car tax for diesel and petrol cars will go to the moon.

It might depend on how the electric roll out has gone. At the moment I would not like to make the journey from York to London in an electric.

There was a dealer on the Radio the other day, who said in his opinion electric cars are being missold. They should be advertised as city cars.

You say that, I went to Oxford, Wycombe and Cheltenham games and back in my EV without a hitch.

Would that be a self charging EV Janso.

[drfchound]

We have one diesel car and one petrol.
Both over £500 to tax.

[Janso]

I’ve got a feeling post 2030 car tax for diesel and petrol cars will go to the moon.

It might depend on how the electric roll out has gone. At the moment I would not like to make the journey from York to London in an electric.

There was a dealer on the Radio the other day, who said in his opinion electric cars are being missold. They should be advertised as city cars.

You say that, I went to Oxford, Wycombe and Cheltenham games and back in my EV without a hitch.

Would that be a self charging EV Janso.

Nope, I have to stop and charge once each way (to be honest I could get away without stopping on the way home usually) but that's full electric. I was nervous before Wycombe about getting there and back but really had no need to be. The range I get is dictated by the weather somewhat as it's closer to 200 miles than 300 when it's freezing, but then ICE vehicles aren't as efficient in the cold and wet so nothing new really.

[drfchound]

I’ve got a feeling post 2030 car tax for diesel and petrol cars will go to the moon.

It might depend on how the electric roll out has gone. At the moment I would not like to make the journey from York to London in an electric.

There was a dealer on the Radio the other day, who said in his opinion electric cars are being missold. They should be advertised as city cars.

You say that, I went to Oxford, Wycombe and Cheltenham games and back in my EV without a hitch.

Would that be a self charging EV Janso.

Nope, I have to stop and charge once each way (to be honest I could get away without stopping on the way home usually) but that's full electric. I was nervous before Wycombe about getting there and back but really had no need to be. The range I get is dictated by the weather somewhat as it's closer to 200 miles than 300 when it's freezing, but then ICE vehicles aren't as efficient in the cold and wet so nothing new really.

When you stop to recharge, how long is the stop.

[Janso]

I’ve got a feeling post 2030 car tax for diesel and petrol cars will go to the moon.

It might depend on how the electric roll out has gone. At the moment I would not like to make the journey from York to London in an electric.

There was a dealer on the Radio the other day, who said in his opinion electric cars are being missold. They should be advertised as city cars.

You say that, I went to Oxford, Wycombe and Cheltenham games and back in my EV without a hitch.

Would that be a self charging EV Janso.

Nope, I have to stop and charge once each way (to be honest I could get away without stopping on the way home usually) but that's full electric. I was nervous before Wycombe about getting there and back but really had no need to be. The range I get is dictated by the weather somewhat as it's closer to 200 miles than 300 when it's freezing, but then ICE vehicles aren't as efficient in the cold and wet so nothing new really.

When you stop to recharge, how long is the stop.

30-60 minutes depending on how far I'm going, but pre-EV I was already stopping on the way down for snap for a similar length of time and I'm never really in a massive rush to get home. I thought it'd be a bit of an inconvenience and many naysayers will make it out to be too but it really isn't, and there's apps you can use (either a passenger looking for you or using Android Auto/Apple CarPlay) to check if chargers are available and working.

Cost is probably the biggest stumbling block for many at the moment, but the actual driving experience is the same as ICE - you get ones that are more and ones that are less efficient. I don't have to trundle along at 50mph as some will make out either. It does reduce my range a bit driving at the full speed limit on the motorways but not drastically and I'm never far from a charge point.



I forgot, I also went to Shrewsbury in it and if I'd not stopped for snap on the way, I'd have got nigh on there and back without needing a charge.

[Draytonian III]

I’ve got an electric bike for work, does 35 miles on one charge, takes 5 hours to charge and it costs me roughly 16 pence a time, but I usually charge it when I’m at work so it’s free , result ;-)

[drfchound]

I’ve got a feeling post 2030 car tax for diesel and petrol cars will go to the moon.

It might depend on how the electric roll out has gone. At the moment I would not like to make the journey from York to London in an electric.

There was a dealer on the Radio the other day, who said in his opinion electric cars are being missold. They should be advertised as city cars.

You say that, I went to Oxford, Wycombe and Cheltenham games and back in my EV without a hitch.

Would that be a self charging EV Janso.

Nope, I have to stop and charge once each way (to be honest I could get away without stopping on the way home usually) but that's full electric. I was nervous before Wycombe about getting there and back but really had no need to be. The range I get is dictated by the weather somewhat as it's closer to 200 miles than 300 when it's freezing, but then ICE vehicles aren't as efficient in the cold and wet so nothing new really.

When you stop to recharge, how long is the stop.

30-60 minutes depending on how far I'm going, but pre-EV I was already stopping on the way down for snap for a similar length of time and I'm never really in a massive rush to get home. I thought it'd be a bit of an inconvenience and many naysayers will make it out to be too but it really isn't, and there's apps you can use (either a passenger looking for you or using Android Auto/Apple CarPlay) to check if chargers are available and working.

Cost is probably the biggest stumbling block for many at the moment, but the actual driving experience is the same as ICE - you get ones that are more and ones that are less efficient. I don't have to trundle along at 50mph as some will make out either. It does reduce my range a bit driving at the full speed limit on the motorways but not drastically and I'm never far from a charge point.



I forgot, I also went to Shrewsbury in it and if I'd not stopped for snap on the way, I'd have got nigh on there and back without needing a charge.

I tow a caravan for seven or eight holiday breaks a year and so have a BMW X5 40d which is a fantastic tow car. Average solo driving gets me 35mpg which is acceptable to me and an EV or hybrid would probably be a good option for me for most of my other driving but I doubt very much whether the EV or hybrid would be an adequate enough tow car.
Also, on all the charging points I have ever seen I haven’t spotted one yet that would have enough room for a car towing a caravan or trailer.
The UK caravan market is worth pots of money so I am assuming that the car manufacturers are looking at ways to get a decent tow car that can be attractive to caravanner.

[rich1471]

I’ve got an electric bike for work, does 35 miles on one charge, takes 5 hours to charge and it costs me roughly 16 pence a time, but I usually charge it when I’m at work so it’s free , result ;-)

I have a cube reaction with a 625 watt motor will do 80-100 mile on eco mode ,takes 6 hours to charge so do it at work

[Janso]

I’ve got a feeling post 2030 car tax for diesel and petrol cars will go to the moon.

It might depend on how the electric roll out has gone. At the moment I would not like to make the journey from York to London in an electric.

There was a dealer on the Radio the other day, who said in his opinion electric cars are being missold. They should be advertised as city cars.

You say that, I went to Oxford, Wycombe and Cheltenham games and back in my EV without a hitch.

Would that be a self charging EV Janso.

Nope, I have to stop and charge once each way (to be honest I could get away without stopping on the way home usually) but that's full electric. I was nervous before Wycombe about getting there and back but really had no need to be. The range I get is dictated by the weather somewhat as it's closer to 200 miles than 300 when it's freezing, but then ICE vehicles aren't as efficient in the cold and wet so nothing new really.

When you stop to recharge, how long is the stop.

30-60 minutes depending on how far I'm going, but pre-EV I was already stopping on the way down for snap for a similar length of time and I'm never really in a massive rush to get home. I thought it'd be a bit of an inconvenience and many naysayers will make it out to be too but it really isn't, and there's apps you can use (either a passenger looking for you or using Android Auto/Apple CarPlay) to check if chargers are available and working.

Cost is probably the biggest stumbling block for many at the moment, but the actual driving experience is the same as ICE - you get ones that are more and ones that are less efficient. I don't have to trundle along at 50mph as some will make out either. It does reduce my range a bit driving at the full speed limit on the motorways but not drastically and I'm never far from a charge point.



I forgot, I also went to Shrewsbury in it and if I'd not stopped for snap on the way, I'd have got nigh on there and back without needing a charge.

I tow a caravan for seven or eight holiday breaks a year and so have a BMW X5 40d which is a fantastic tow car. Average solo driving gets me 35mpg which is acceptable to me and an EV or hybrid would probably be a good option for me for most of my other driving but I doubt very much whether the EV or hybrid would be an adequate enough tow car.
Also, on all the charging points I have ever seen I haven’t spotted one yet that would have enough room for a car towing a caravan or trailer.
The UK caravan market is worth pots of money so I am assuming that the car manufacturers are looking at ways to get a decent tow car that can be attractive to caravanner.

Yeah that's a tough one, not being a caravanner myself I don't really know much about any developments in that arena. Like you say though, if there's money in it...

[normal rules]

I’ve got a feeling post 2030 car tax for diesel and petrol cars will go to the moon.

It might depend on how the electric roll out has gone. At the moment I would not like to make the journey from York to London in an electric.

There was a dealer on the Radio the other day, who said in his opinion electric cars are being missold. They should be advertised as city cars.

You say that, I went to Oxford, Wycombe and Cheltenham games and back in my EV without a hitch.

Would that be a self charging EV Janso.

Nope, I have to stop and charge once each way (to be honest I could get away without stopping on the way home usually) but that's full electric. I was nervous before Wycombe about getting there and back but really had no need to be. The range I get is dictated by the weather somewhat as it's closer to 200 miles than 300 when it's freezing, but then ICE vehicles aren't as efficient in the cold and wet so nothing new really.

When you stop to recharge, how long is the stop.

30-60 minutes depending on how far I'm going, but pre-EV I was already stopping on the way down for snap for a similar length of time and I'm never really in a massive rush to get home. I thought it'd be a bit of an inconvenience and many naysayers will make it out to be too but it really isn't, and there's apps you can use (either a passenger looking for you or using Android Auto/Apple CarPlay) to check if chargers are available and working.

Cost is probably the biggest stumbling block for many at the moment, but the actual driving experience is the same as ICE - you get ones that are more and ones that are less efficient. I don't have to trundle along at 50mph as some will make out either. It does reduce my range a bit driving at the full speed limit on the motorways but not drastically and I'm never far from a charge point.



I forgot, I also went to Shrewsbury in it and if I'd not stopped for snap on the way, I'd have got nigh on there and back without needing a charge.

Have you ever had an issue getting a charging point? I see lots of them out of use at service stations. Or busy with someone already plugged in.

[normal rules]

I’ve got a feeling post 2030 car tax for diesel and petrol cars will go to the moon.

It might depend on how the electric roll out has gone. At the moment I would not like to make the journey from York to London in an electric.

There was a dealer on the Radio the other day, who said in his opinion electric cars are being missold. They should be advertised as city cars.

You say that, I went to Oxford, Wycombe and Cheltenham games and back in my EV without a hitch.

Would that be a self charging EV Janso.

Nope, I have to stop and charge once each way (to be honest I could get away without stopping on the way home usually) but that's full electric. I was nervous before Wycombe about getting there and back but really had no need to be. The range I get is dictated by the weather somewhat as it's closer to 200 miles than 300 when it's freezing, but then ICE vehicles aren't as efficient in the cold and wet so nothing new really.

When you stop to recharge, how long is the stop.

30-60 minutes depending on how far I'm going, but pre-EV I was already stopping on the way down for snap for a similar length of time and I'm never really in a massive rush to get home. I thought it'd be a bit of an inconvenience and many naysayers will make it out to be too but it really isn't, and there's apps you can use (either a passenger looking for you or using Android Auto/Apple CarPlay) to check if chargers are available and working.

Cost is probably the biggest stumbling block for many at the moment, but the actual driving experience is the same as ICE - you get ones that are more and ones that are less efficient. I don't have to trundle along at 50mph as some will make out either. It does reduce my range a bit driving at the full speed limit on the motorways but not drastically and I'm never far from a charge point.



I forgot, I also went to Shrewsbury in it and if I'd not stopped for snap on the way, I'd have got nigh on there and back without needing a charge.

I tow a caravan for seven or eight holiday breaks a year and so have a BMW X5 40d which is a fantastic tow car. Average solo driving gets me 35mpg which is acceptable to me and an EV or hybrid would probably be a good option for me for most of my other driving but I doubt very much whether the EV or hybrid would be an adequate enough tow car.
Also, on all the charging points I have ever seen I haven’t spotted one yet that would have enough room for a car towing a caravan or trailer.
The UK caravan market is worth pots of money so I am assuming that the car manufacturers are looking at ways to get a decent tow car that can be attractive to caravanner.

It’s another stumbling block for me hound. I too have a shed on wheels. I have a disco 3 to pull it. pullingbpower for ev is limited without spending top dollar. Then there is the issue of charging space not being designed for towers, as you point out. And charging your car on site is a big no no at the moment.

[Bristol Red Rover]

Got a Skoda Fabia diesel, 2007, 70mpg and £30 tax.

[normal rules]

Got a Skoda Fabia diesel, 2007, 70mpg and £30 tax.

Does the Fabia tax band change depending on year though ?

[Janso]

I’ve got a feeling post 2030 car tax for diesel and petrol cars will go to the moon.

It might depend on how the electric roll out has gone. At the moment I would not like to make the journey from York to London in an electric.

There was a dealer on the Radio the other day, who said in his opinion electric cars are being missold. They should be advertised as city cars.

You say that, I went to Oxford, Wycombe and Cheltenham games and back in my EV without a hitch.

Would that be a self charging EV Janso.

Nope, I have to stop and charge once each way (to be honest I could get away without stopping on the way home usually) but that's full electric. I was nervous before Wycombe about getting there and back but really had no need to be. The range I get is dictated by the weather somewhat as it's closer to 200 miles than 300 when it's freezing, but then ICE vehicles aren't as efficient in the cold and wet so nothing new really.

When you stop to recharge, how long is the stop.

30-60 minutes depending on how far I'm going, but pre-EV I was already stopping on the way down for snap for a similar length of time and I'm never really in a massive rush to get home. I thought it'd be a bit of an inconvenience and many naysayers will make it out to be too but it really isn't, and there's apps you can use (either a passenger looking for you or using Android Auto/Apple CarPlay) to check if chargers are available and working.

Cost is probably the biggest stumbling block for many at the moment, but the actual driving experience is the same as ICE - you get ones that are more and ones that are less efficient. I don't have to trundle along at 50mph as some will make out either. It does reduce my range a bit driving at the full speed limit on the motorways but not drastically and I'm never far from a charge point.



I forgot, I also went to Shrewsbury in it and if I'd not stopped for snap on the way, I'd have got nigh on there and back without needing a charge.

Have you ever had an issue getting a charging point? I see lots of them out of use at service stations. Or busy with someone already plugged in.

No I haven't. I tend to go for ones not actually on the motorway but just off them. There's an operator called InstaVolt that are very reliable and they're all over the country, just a few miles off the motorway (if that, sometimes) and most if not all are outside somewhere you can get something to eat.

[normal rules]

Instavolt have less than 1000 charging points currently across the uk. That’s not very many.

[Bristol Red Rover]

Got a Skoda Fabia diesel, 2007, 70mpg and £30 tax.

Does the Fabia tax band change depending on year though ?

Yep, new ones are more pricey. Tho some of the TDi's are low still?

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

Instavolt have less than 1000 charging points currently across the uk. That’s not very many.

Loads of other companies though.  Currently if you're driving long distances frequently they're not worth it, but you can manage it on one offs no problem.

[normal rules]

I looked up instavolt as this is the co you get free charging at through onto.

[Janso]

I looked up instavolt as this is the co you get free charging at through onto.

Correct. And as you say, only 1000, but they are in a lot of places along most routes.

[BillyStubbsTears]

13 year old Prius.
£0 tax
70mpg on a motorway run.
Like shit off a shovel to 30mph from a standing start which really is all that matters most of the time.
Uncomfortable though. I feel like I've been beaten up with baseball bats after a 2 hour drive.