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What wild generalisations would them be then, BG?
It's funny how Hound and BB persist in generalising from a very specific, and extremely verifiable, point about opinions and views in one specific age group. Tgey nevee moan when Billy talks about other age groups do they? It's like they've never been introduced to critical thinking, to analytical thinking. These continued wild generalisations in support of their owm prejudice tells us all what we need to know about the limitations of their intellects.BobG
TykeCalm yourself.If you want a left of centre Govt (big "if" in your case, I'll grant you) then the best thing you could hope for would be to have these five lightweights fighting like rats in a sack without an idea between them, on prime time every night.Labour couldn't do a better job themselves of destroying Tory credibility.
TykeCalm yourself.If you want a left of centre Govt (big "if" in your case, I'll grant you) then the best thing you could hope for would be to have these five lightweights fighting like rats in a sack without an idea between them, on prime time every night.Labour couldn't do a better job themselves of destroying Tory credibility.
SS.What do you take offence at?The argument that the Boomers inherited a good deal and left a shit one behind them? Feel free to explain why you don't agree with that if you wish?Or is it the polling evidence that the Boomers disproportionately blame younger people for their economic plight? Again, feel free to point out why you disagree.As it is, you seem to confuse "setting out an evidence-based argument" with "f**king disgraceful ageist comments".Which suggests that you've missed the bit where I said that I don't think that all pensioners are selfish and ignorant. Not by a long way. Just that the evidence suggests there are more pensioners fitting that description than there are people in other age groups.
Tyke a lot of your last rant is very true. That doesn’t make the majority of pensioners ignorant and selfish. I for one haven’t yet retired. I am also mindful of the fact that when I left school you went to university in the main because you were bright and you intended to study something that would benefit yourself and societyYou went to be a professional Nowadays so many young people are studying nothing subjects that wouldn’t have been on any university curriculum in my day. With so many young people going to university it has to be paid for. I think that young people are also realising that and that is why there are more apprenticeship I also agree there should be more housing available at affordable prices. That still doesn’t make the majority of pensioners ignorant and selfish. You also need to remember a lot of people benefitted from buying their council houses at next to nothing prices and they profited from future sales. I would actually disagree that the benefit system was better in the past. I grew up on a council estate and we lived next door to the only person we knew who didn’t work. He didn’t work because he was genuinely extremely poorly and unlike some today he couldn’t workThat family were poor and until the children left school and started to work they really did struggle to make ends meetThe baby boomers have had it good but they have also seen a society change where the majority are ‘are ignorant and selfish ‘ and only some have the sense to be thoughtful reflective and decent We are living in sxxt times and that is an overall societal issue and is not down to the majority of over 65s not caring
You certainly wouldn't think that if you had watched either of the debates Tyke.Tho you will be seeing many clips from them in future. In Labour Party campaign videos.
SS.What do you take offence at?The argument that the Boomers inherited a good deal and left a shit one behind them? Feel free to explain why you don't agree with that if you wish?Or is it the polling evidence that the Boomers disproportionately blame younger people for their economic plight? Again, feel free to point out why you disagree.As it is, you seem to confuse "setting out an evidence-based argument" with "f**king disgraceful ageist comments".Which suggests that you've missed the bit where I said that I don't think that all pensioners are selfish and ignorant. Not by a long way. Just that the evidence suggests there are more pensioners fitting that description than there are people in other age groups.
Here's one for you BBI worked in the Cabinet Office on a project quite a few years ago and can hand on heart say Liz Truss and Amber Rudd might be the two dimmest people I've ever met. Failed to grasp very basic, carefully laid out concepts.
Quote from: Bentley Bullet on July 17, 2022, 08:28:50 pmWhat wild generalisations would them be then, BG?That would be the Bob who has never met us BB and yet feels qualified to speak about intellectual status.Bob of course is so intellectually superior that he doesn’t need to check what he has written before actually posting.Quote from: BobG on July 17, 2022, 08:24:09 pmIt's funny how Hound and BB persist in generalising from a very specific, and extremely verifiable, point about opinions and views in one specific age group. Tgey nevee moan when Billy talks about other age groups do they? It's like they've never been introduced to critical thinking, to analytical thinking. These continued wild generalisations in support of their owm prejudice tells us all what we need to know about the limitations of their intellects.BobG
Quote from: drfchound on July 17, 2022, 02:01:46 pmbst despises pensioners shock.I can't imagine any pensioner losing too much sleep over it, Hound. In fact, probably the opposite. After all, his praise of anyone is hardly a commendable endorsement.
bst despises pensioners shock.
I don’t get where you’re coming from Syd. Yes we do need to know all those things you raised but it’s not relevant in this contest. That’s something for the next General Election This is about who is going to lead the tories into that electionThe public will be able to make their minds up in the next 2 and a bit years This is just absolutely nonsense and the only benefactors are the Labour Party Waste of time effort and money
Quote from: drfchound on July 17, 2022, 08:42:51 pmQuote from: Bentley Bullet on July 17, 2022, 08:28:50 pmWhat wild generalisations would them be then, BG?That would be the Bob who has never met us BB and yet feels qualified to speak about intellectual status.Bob of course is so intellectually superior that he doesn’t need to check what he has written before actually posting.Quote from: BobG on July 17, 2022, 08:24:09 pmIt's funny how Hound and BB persist in generalising from a very specific, and extremely verifiable, point about opinions and views in one specific age group. Tgey nevee moan when Billy talks about other age groups do they? It's like they've never been introduced to critical thinking, to analytical thinking. These continued wild generalisations in support of their owm prejudice tells us all what we need to know about the limitations of their intellects.BobGcYour intellectual goes before you. As does your double standard in commenting on me when you too have never met me. I reckon my original point is more than proved.BobG
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on July 17, 2022, 02:00:21 pmQuote from: tyke1962 on July 17, 2022, 01:54:47 pmQuote from: phil old leake on July 17, 2022, 12:01:36 pmNo you haven’t. This is being hyped up out of all proportion It’s a leadership contest albeit the winner will be Prime Minister Why there is a need for TV debates is beyond me. Also why the Tories want this all over the media is beyond me. It can only reflect badly on them as a partyIt just shows the depth of the deception getting played out here .A new leader offering whatever bullshyte they are offering , a promise of this , that and the other as though the last 3 years never happened never mind the last 12 .The TV debate is actually laughable given less than 0.47% of the electorate will vote in a new PM .80% of the Tory membership are in socio-economic classes ABC156% live in London or the Home Counties.39% are over 65.65% are male.That's the demographic that's going to choose our PM.Wealthy old southern men. The golf club bore rules the country.honest question was there anything about % ethnicity (as we call it nowadays) in those stats ? because at this moment in time Badenoch is getting ridiculously hammered in the betting and rather than Mavis of Coronation Street (a.k.a. Truss ) getting Badenoch's votes it could be the other way around
Quote from: tyke1962 on July 17, 2022, 01:54:47 pmQuote from: phil old leake on July 17, 2022, 12:01:36 pmNo you haven’t. This is being hyped up out of all proportion It’s a leadership contest albeit the winner will be Prime Minister Why there is a need for TV debates is beyond me. Also why the Tories want this all over the media is beyond me. It can only reflect badly on them as a partyIt just shows the depth of the deception getting played out here .A new leader offering whatever bullshyte they are offering , a promise of this , that and the other as though the last 3 years never happened never mind the last 12 .The TV debate is actually laughable given less than 0.47% of the electorate will vote in a new PM .80% of the Tory membership are in socio-economic classes ABC156% live in London or the Home Counties.39% are over 65.65% are male.That's the demographic that's going to choose our PM.Wealthy old southern men. The golf club bore rules the country.
Quote from: phil old leake on July 17, 2022, 12:01:36 pmNo you haven’t. This is being hyped up out of all proportion It’s a leadership contest albeit the winner will be Prime Minister Why there is a need for TV debates is beyond me. Also why the Tories want this all over the media is beyond me. It can only reflect badly on them as a partyIt just shows the depth of the deception getting played out here .A new leader offering whatever bullshyte they are offering , a promise of this , that and the other as though the last 3 years never happened never mind the last 12 .The TV debate is actually laughable given less than 0.47% of the electorate will vote in a new PM .
No you haven’t. This is being hyped up out of all proportion It’s a leadership contest albeit the winner will be Prime Minister Why there is a need for TV debates is beyond me. Also why the Tories want this all over the media is beyond me. It can only reflect badly on them as a party