Sam Tarry

[wilts rover]

Interesting to see people who support the party that wishes to curb trade union rights attacking the Labour Party for not standing up for trade unions.

[Filo]

Interesting to see people who support the party that wishes to curb trade union rights attacking the Labour Party for not standing up for trade unions.

It’s a funny old world

[wilts rover]

The head of BT Philip Jansen was paid £3,500,000 last year (up 32%).

When asked if he would increase pay to frontline staff, he replied:

“Why would I do that?”

He later added:

“I understand completely how people feel in the country given the squeeze on income.”

https://twitter.com/The_TUC/status/1552606565844369410

Vote Tory.

[Redroy]

Sam Tarry is f**king tool. In the process of being deselected by his own constituency party down here so is doing this to try and cling on. He can f**k off.

Whether Keir is the man to take Labour to victory at the next GE, I'm not sure. Tbh I don't think he is going to have to do much to beat this shower of shite who have run the country into the ground once against but he's such a wet blanket who knows...

[BillyStubbsTears]

Sam Tarry is f**king tool. In the process of being deselected by his own constituency party down here so is doing this to try and cling on. He can f**k off.

Whether Keir is the man to take Labour to victory at the next GE, I'm not sure. Tbh I don't think he is going to have to do much to beat this shower of shite who have run the country into the ground once against but he's such a wet blanket who knows...

Sam Tarry is f**king tool. In the process of being deselected by his own constituency party down here so is doing this to try and cling on. He can f**k off.

Whether Keir is the man to take Labour to victory at the next GE, I'm not sure. Tbh I don't think he is going to have to do much to beat this shower of shite who have run the country into the ground once against but he's such a wet blanket who knows...

This. All of it.

[tyke1962]

Keith Starmer and number 7 on his 10 pledges he made when standing for the Labour leadership .

No.7 - Strengthening Workers Rights And Trade Unions .

" Work shoulder to shoulder with Trade Unions to stand up for working people and tackle insecure work and low pay , repel the Trade Union Act and oppose Tory attacks from the Right to take industrial action and the weakening of workplace rights .

Signed

Keir Starmer .

And yet many including some on this board wonder why there is so much anger and frustration with the Labour leader .

[albie]

Oh dear, Syd!

"ST would have known all the rules and appears to have gone out of his way to make a stance, as I said to Steve, I don't have problems with any of this, a party has rules and if you knowingly break them you suffer the consequences"......Tarry was interviewed on a picket line, and said he supported wage increases to keep pace with living costs.

Rachel Reeves is still in post, despite going against policy on 2 separate issues in recent days, with a complete nonsense interview on the Today programme on R4. "Collective responsibility" has to apply to all, not just some.

Now that Starmer bloke going off script at the Labour Conference and calling for a Peoples Vote without approval WAS going too far, I agree.

To avoid doubt, I have no problem with people taking a personal view that differs from party policy, as long as the difference is made clear.
 
"Look at the OP, you were both incorrect"...err no, the story was reported as a picket line appearance breach.

Labour then tried to re-write the story after it broke, with the CR line. Horse had bolted before the stable door was locked.  Very poor comms from Labour HQ.

"Take a step back and look at the mess Corbyn left the party in, the worst defeat since when, and all the problems that cost time and money to fix".....you still have not read the Forde Report, have you?

If you had read it, you would not be repeating this drivel while Keith bankrupts Labour, losing funds and paying damages to people who had no basis for the claims they made.

[tyke1962]

I'd just like to add that if Truss is successful and becomes PM she's hell bent on weakening the rights of Trade Unions as if they aren't weakened enough .

She's spoiling for a fight and many of us are old enough to remember a Tory female PM with the same agenda .

This isn't just a few random outbreaks of industrial action across a few sectors .

These disputes go way way deeper than that , basically working rights and pay can go tickle because coroporate pay , profiteering and shareholder dividends aren't getting cut anytime soon for no fecker .

What we have here is a good old fashioned " class war " , nothing more and nothing less .

Given the make up of the Labour Party today it's no surprise to see they simply do not get it .

Evil prevails when good people do nothing .

The only question remaining is are the current Labour Party good people or are they cut from the same cloth as those across the house .

It's a fecking tragedy that I don't know anymore .

A fecking class war and Labour turn their backs on the very people they are supposed to represent .

I'll say one thing about the Tories , at least you know them for the bstrds they are and know where you stand .

[wilts rover]

It doesn't need Truss in Tyke - Johnson has already passed a law allowing companies to bring in agency workers to break strikes.

He did it last week - and nobody mentioned it.

[drfchound]

The unions seem to think it is.

So do some Labour supporters on here too.

[DonnyOsmond]

Is it a surprise that the Labour party have gone further right when the majority of the country voted for a right wing government in 2019? They're just appealing to the masses by being indifferent to unions and being financially conservative. It's not going to help the country short or long term but it's the popular choice apparently.

[tyke1962]

The Guardian are reporting tonight that up to 70 Labour MP's are set to join picket lines over the coming days and weeks .

This would appear to be a clear message to the Labour leadership and at least one current Shadow Minister is apparently one of them .


Trouble brewing for Keith possibly and a challenge to his authority .

The current Tory leadership contest may not be the only one we will see before the summer is out .

[drfchound]

Is it a surprise that the Labour party have gone further right when the majority of the country voted for a right wing government in 2019? They're just appealing to the masses by being indifferent to unions and being financially conservative. It's not going to help the country short or long term but it's the popular choice apparently.

DO, one or two posters may disagree the the majority of the country voted for a right wing government.

[SydneyRover]

You need to get real Albie, all this mess came from the previous leader and I keep saying I would vote labour over the tories any day of the week. All this turmoil about antisemitism, brexit and a massive loss 12/2019.

The king is dead, long live the king.

Stop moaning and carping lay your plan out for a win at the polls and name your new leader.

The thing is you don't have a plan do you, only complaints.

I'll support the next leader too over the tories and will keep doing that while labour is left of them no matter how large or small.

[SydneyRover]

One last point Albie, the thing is, not having a left labour government would never be down to me, your fight is with those on this thread and others that didn't vote labour, that's the reason for this tory government.

Please tell me you voted labour yourself at the 2019 election Albie?

[SydneyRover]

Is it a surprise that the Labour party have gone further right when the majority of the country voted for a right wing government in 2019? They're just appealing to the masses by being indifferent to unions and being financially conservative. It's not going to help the country short or long term but it's the popular choice apparently.

I guess that question and others goes to some of those on this thread, where did they place their vote? did they not vote at all, not vote for labour or even vote tory?

[danumdon]

Like listening to an old AM radio signal, crakels and farts from miles away and totally illegible.

[SydneyRover]

Like listening to an old AM radio signal, crakels and farts from miles away and totally illegible.

I guess the worlds changed to internet radio while you're still working who to vote for dd

[tyke1962]

Shell and Centrica making Keith look an even bigger pillock than he is .

[SydneyRover]

Shell and Centrica making Keith look an even bigger pillock than he is .

I doubt labour HQ will be putting the champagne on ice just yet tyke, they can't be certain you won't jump on board the next crackpot tory idea, hehe

[selby]

  I don't see this guy as doing anything wrong being on a picket line, what he has done is do something positive which is against Labour's present policy of sitting back, do nothing, say nothing controversial, and just criticize everything the Conservatives do and say.
  The lack of any alternatives until a conservative policy is announced is the  only tactic they have employed since Johnson took office, they have no alternative policy they just snipe away at everything the government do.
  The silence is deafening at times, helped by the BBC narrative, with the opportunities that have been presented to them on a plate, they have been absolutely very poor, they have let the Liberal Party steal a lot of their thunder when it comes to policy as an alternative to the Tories, and their spokespersons in the media have the charisma of a bottle of pop.

[Bentley Bullet]

There was a bloke who used to stand near us at Belle Vue back in the day. He used to constantly shout "Shoot! Shoot!" whenever a Rovers player had the ball in front of goal. If the player actually did shoot, and subsequently missed, the bloke used to shout "Why didn't he pass?"

I often wonder what happened to him. In fact, I have a theory. Does anyone know if Keir Starmer used to watch Rovers at Belle Vue?

[SydneyRover]

Starmer supports Arsenal, whereas johnson supported from the rear and then ran to the front, but it fooled plenty.

[wilts rover]

In light of recent posts its worth posting this again:

Interesting to see people who support the party that wishes to curb trade union rights attacking the Labour Party for not standing up for trade unions.

[Colemans Left Hook]

Starmer supports Arsenal, whereas johnson supported from the rear and then ran to the front, but it fooled plenty.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9787736/jeremy-corbyn-grew-up-supporting-wolves-before-switching-to-arsenal-when-he-moved-to-london/

[wilts rover]

Liz Truss supported Leeds before switching to Norwich when she moved to Norfolk.

On the LBC hustings last night

[Colemans Left Hook]

Liz Truss supported Leeds before switching to Norwich when she moved to Norfolk.

On the LBC hustings last night

out of interest i checked out the "non existent options" in Norfolk   "Norfolk In Chance" she could have picked any other   King's Lynn are the 2nd highest rated team ....   

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

Shell and Centrica making Keith look an even bigger pillock than he is .

Dig in to the detail and you'll see there is much more to it than the headlines suggest for centrica.  Supply to customers through British gas is making them not a huge amount in % terms, something like £6 a customer (varies depending on metric used but all small).

They have benefitted from high prices in some ways but dig deeper and they've booked a huge exceptional provision for onerous contracts.  That's not positive for them in terms of future cash flows but should keep their profits stable (note a statutory loss in excess of £1bn).

[albie]

Former Shadow Chancellor on the error by Starmer in not supporting trade unions;
https://www.doubledown.news/watch/2022/july/25/john-mcdonnell-calls-out-keir-starmer

Hard to disagree with that!

[wilts rover]

Liz Truss supported Leeds before switching to Norwich when she moved to Norfolk.

On the LBC hustings last night

out of interest i checked out the "non existent options" in Norfolk   "Norfolk In Chance" she could have picked any other   King's Lynn are the 2nd highest rated team ....   

I left Doncaster in 1987. I never changed my team.