To all you leaver’s

[Chris Black come back]

Different league, different season but we are now on 4 points after 2 games. It took us 7 games last season to get to the same number of points.

[StocksArmy]

Papering over cracks. Stupidity to think otherwise.

We were shocking in the first half. Should have been 3-4 down.

But we improved as the second half went on. And Agard made a big difference. Lots of very intelligent runs into the channels.

Sutton were what I expected from this division. Very hard working. Very organised. Players well drilled. But by 60-65 mins, we were on top and starting to dominate. I've seen enough this last two weeks to think there is a bit of spine and a bit of remorselessness in our side. That could be enough to make us contenders.

I agree with some of that but.... to not create a single chance for 92 minutes makes me think otherwise. And that is totally down to the manager. There is talent in the group but we are clueless

Rowe had a 20 yard shot well saved in the first half. He had a 1-on-1 shot saved in the first minute of the second half.

a 20 yard shot is not a chance

In all my years using this forum that last statement has to be one of the most baseless, crass, inane and least thought out posts I’ve ever read..

What a load of b*llocks.!

A 20 yard shot is not a chance.?  And you have “Stock” in your user name.?

Papering over cracks. Stupidity to think otherwise.

We were shocking in the first half. Should have been 3-4 down.

But we improved as the second half went on. And Agard made a big difference. Lots of very intelligent runs into the channels.

Sutton were what I expected from this division. Very hard working. Very organised. Players well drilled. But by 60-65 mins, we were on top and starting to dominate. I've seen enough this last two weeks to think there is a bit of spine and a bit of remorselessness in our side. That could be enough to make us contenders.

I agree with some of that but.... to not create a single chance for 92 minutes makes me think otherwise. And that is totally down to the manager. There is talent in the group but we are clueless

Rowe had a 20 yard shot well saved in the first half. He had a 1-on-1 shot saved in the first minute of the second half.

a 20 yard shot is not a chance

In all my years using this forum that last statement has to be one of the most baseless, crass, inane and least thought out posts I’ve ever read..

What a load of b*llocks.!

A 20 yard shot is not a chance.?  And you have “Stock” in your user name.??

How the f#ck can you class a shot from outside the box as a chance you should score from? Are you for real?

[colincramb]

On another note, thought the acoustics from the south sounded great today at times. Sat on west middle and thought it was very good

[The Dav]

I thought we were bullied in the 1st half, they are a big strong side, with plenty of muscle, we will come up against this plenty of times in this division ! But 4 points from our first 2 games !

[jmt23]

What about the chance TR blazed over the bar with only a keeper to beat.? Millers header to the far post? And I would suggest any shooting opportunity is a chance to score, the shot was on.

Nobody will say we played well, but don’t let your disappointment of the display cloud over the facts.

[dickos1]

Papering over cracks. Stupidity to think otherwise.

We were shocking in the first half. Should have been 3-4 down.

But we improved as the second half went on. And Agard made a big difference. Lots of very intelligent runs into the channels.

Sutton were what I expected from this division. Very hard working. Very organised. Players well drilled. But by 60-65 mins, we were on top and starting to dominate. I've seen enough this last two weeks to think there is a bit of spine and a bit of remorselessness in our side. That could be enough to make us contenders.

I agree with some of that but.... to not create a single chance for 92 minutes makes me think otherwise. And that is totally down to the manager. There is talent in the group but we are clueless

Rowe had a 20 yard shot well saved in the first half. He had a 1-on-1 shot saved in the first minute of the second half.

a 20 yard shot is not a chance

In all my years using this forum that last statement has to be one of the most baseless, crass, inane and least thought out posts I’ve ever read..

What a load of b*llocks.!

A 20 yard shot is not a chance.?  And you have “Stock” in your user name.?

Papering over cracks. Stupidity to think otherwise.

We were shocking in the first half. Should have been 3-4 down.

But we improved as the second half went on. And Agard made a big difference. Lots of very intelligent runs into the channels.

Sutton were what I expected from this division. Very hard working. Very organised. Players well drilled. But by 60-65 mins, we were on top and starting to dominate. I've seen enough this last two weeks to think there is a bit of spine and a bit of remorselessness in our side. That could be enough to make us contenders.

I agree with some of that but.... to not create a single chance for 92 minutes makes me think otherwise. And that is totally down to the manager. There is talent in the group but we are clueless

Rowe had a 20 yard shot well saved in the first half. He had a 1-on-1 shot saved in the first minute of the second half.

a 20 yard shot is not a chance

In all my years using this forum that last statement has to be one of the most baseless, crass, inane and least thought out posts I’ve ever read..

What a load of b*llocks.!

A 20 yard shot is not a chance.?  And you have “Stock” in your user name.??

How the f#ck can you class a shot from outside the box as a chance you should score from? Are you for real?

Of course it was a chance, laid off to him at the edge of the box with his left foot it was a great chance as was the volley he skied and the one on one

[jmt23]

Forgot to add this, when we passed and moved, we looked like we would create- it rarely happened, and we looked like we had decided to play a physical team at their own game.

[Barmby Rover]

It's great that Rovers won today, but on Monday there should be some hard talking about defending better, and asking questions of the midfield about how they aim to feed the strikers better, very often there was no outlet for defenders once they had won the ball. The off the ball running has to be worked on.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

On another note, thought the acoustics from the south sounded great today at times. Sat on west middle and thought it was very good

Can definitely see the impact of the cheaper tickets in there, looked good.

[IDM]

Stocksarmy, to quote John McEnroe, you cannot be serious.

Watch MOTD or the EFL highloghts programme every week and see how many goals are scored from 20 yards, or more.

Some players are free kick specialists too, who often score long range goals. 

Brian Stock himself scored quite a few 20 yard plus goals - are you saying none of those weren't chances?

Are you defining a "chance" as a situation you should score from, or could score from? Surely it is "could", therefore getting a decent shot away from 20 yards or more is clearly a chance.

Do you think it is hit and hope?

jesus wept..

[ncRover]

Maxwell is a superb footballer. Hopefully they can muster some tactics to allow him to flourish in an attacking sense.

McSheffrey was tactically outclassed today and we are very very fortunate.

Agard offers more than Andrews at present. Picked up some good positions and was intelligent in his play.

Biggins need to step up as he was invisible at times. Possibly better as a box to box midfielder playing in a midfield 3 to allow for his attacking runs.

That being said, I expect them to finish in the play offs at least. Very good physical team. Far more effective than Mark Hughes’ Bradford and I have no idea who their manager is.

[Chris Black come back]

Maxwell at this early stage looks very good. His interviews are also a credit to an intelligent and switched on young man. So far, a great signing.

[johnny rovers]

Papering over cracks. Stupidity to think otherwise.

We were shocking in the first half. Should have been 3-4 down.

But we improved as the second half went on. And Agard made a big difference. Lots of very intelligent runs into the channels.

Sutton were what I expected from this division. Very hard working. Very organised. Players well drilled. But by 60-65 mins, we were on top and starting to dominate. I've seen enough this last two weeks to think there is a bit of spine and a bit of remorselessness in our side. That could be enough to make us contenders.

I agree with some of that but.... to not create a single chance for 92 minutes makes me think otherwise. And that is totally down to the manager. There is talent in the group but we are clueless

Rowe had a 20 yard shot well saved in the first half. He had a 1-on-1 shot saved in the first minute of the second half.

a 20 yard shot is not a chance

In all my years using this forum that last statement has to be one of the most baseless, crass, inane and least thought out posts I’ve ever read..

What a load of b*llocks.!

A 20 yard shot is not a chance.?  And you have “Stock” in your user name.?

Papering over cracks. Stupidity to think otherwise.

We were shocking in the first half. Should have been 3-4 down.

But we improved as the second half went on. And Agard made a big difference. Lots of very intelligent runs into the channels.

Sutton were what I expected from this division. Very hard working. Very organised. Players well drilled. But by 60-65 mins, we were on top and starting to dominate. I've seen enough this last two weeks to think there is a bit of spine and a bit of remorselessness in our side. That could be enough to make us contenders.

I agree with some of that but.... to not create a single chance for 92 minutes makes me think otherwise. And that is totally down to the manager. There is talent in the group but we are clueless

Rowe had a 20 yard shot well saved in the first half. He had a 1-on-1 shot saved in the first minute of the second half.

a 20 yard shot is not a chance

In all my years using this forum that last statement has to be one of the most baseless, crass, inane and least thought out posts I’ve ever read..

What a load of b*llocks.!

A 20 yard shot is not a chance.?  And you have “Stock” in your user name.??

How the f#ck can you class a shot from outside the box as a chance you should score from? Are you for real?

How..... If its on target of going between the goal post's....... That's how!!!

[BillyStubbsTears]

No-one would begin to suggest we played well today. But what we definitely did do was to figure out a way of controlling the game in the second half.

That revolved around Clayton dropping deep, finding space and time and picking out probing passes.

It was a long way from perfect, but you could see us controlling the game more and more as the second half progressed. The goals finally came and because they came late, it looks like a very lucky escape. But the goals came because we kept on probing and eventually made the chances. As I've said elsewhere, if those two goals had come in the 68th and 70th minutes, we'd be congratulating the side on a professional response to a woeful first half.

An indication of how much we dictated the second half - Sutton had one shot. Not because they were trying to shut up shop and get 11 men behind the ball. Because we kept them out of possession for much of the half, and we got into them when they did have the ball.

I said in another post that there was something remorseless about us today. Not that we dominated or overwhelmed them. But we kept playing to a game plan and we increased the pressure on them. I said to the lads around me after 80 minutes that it felt like we were going to crack them. In the end we did.

It'll be interesting to see how the approach of Clayton threading balls through the midfield works if and when we have players like Taylor and Molyneux or Tomlin in the side to latch onto them. Today, there were several neat examples with Rowe and Hurst combining from Clayton's balls with crisp passes that almost opened them up but didn't quite. I can see that being a potent threat when we have a full set of attacking options to take advantage.

On a basic level, it was just refreshing to see us having a tactic. For the last 18 months, it felt like the nearest you'd get to tactics at Donny was to buy a box of those sugary little white mints.

[johnny rovers]

Simple question for stocks army to answer. If we get a free kick out of the box on 20 yards..... Will that be a "chance" to score?????

[MagicMartinoWoods]

Papering over cracks. Stupidity to think otherwise.

We were shocking in the first half. Should have been 3-4 down.

But we improved as the second half went on. And Agard made a big difference. Lots of very intelligent runs into the channels.

Sutton were what I expected from this division. Very hard working. Very organised. Players well drilled. But by 60-65 mins, we were on top and starting to dominate. I've seen enough this last two weeks to think there is a bit of spine and a bit of remorselessness in our side. That could be enough to make us contenders.

I agree with some of that but.... to not create a single chance for 92 minutes makes me think otherwise. And that is totally down to the manager. There is talent in the group but we are clueless

Rowe had a 20 yard shot well saved in the first half. He had a 1-on-1 shot saved in the first minute of the second half.

a 20 yard shot is not a chance

What is a chance then? Does a one on one meet your threshold?

We also worked ourselves into dangerous positions where the opposition had to take Rowe out just outside the box to stop a chance. The resultant free kick wasn't much cop, but we were threatening and developing chances and half chances. Not exactly 'to not create a single chance' is it

[redarmi66]

Papering over cracks. Stupidity to think otherwise.

We were shocking in the first half. Should have been 3-4 down.

But we improved as the second half went on. And Agard made a big difference. Lots of very intelligent runs into the channels.

Sutton were what I expected from this division. Very hard working. Very organised. Players well drilled. But by 60-65 mins, we were on top and starting to dominate. I've seen enough this last two weeks to think there is a bit of spine and a bit of remorselessness in our side. That could be enough to make us contenders.

I agree with some of that but.... to not create a single chance for 92 minutes makes me think otherwise. And that is totally down to the manager. There is talent in the group but we are clueless

Rowe had a 20 yard shot well saved in the first half. He had a 1-on-1 shot saved in the first minute of the second half.

a 20 yard shot is not a chance

Yes it is

[RoversAlias]

If you weren't at the game today, you'd think some total falseities from reading this thread.

We had quite a number of chances today, just not consistent enough at getting into the box.

We weren't leggy at all, I think some in midfield wanted more time on the ball, and couldn't always deal with the Sutton pressing.

Oh, and McSheffrey was not tactically outclassed. He could have changed it earlier but he put faith in Andrews and it just didn't work. When he made the changes we stretched the Sutton defence and exploited their tired legs and minds to great effect, to win the game. He earned that celebration I'd say.

[sedwardsdrfc]

A pro footballer having a free shot from 2 yards outside the box is absolutely a chance. For the money they get paid you'd have a right to expect them to stretch the keeper.

[StocksArmy]

You all watched a completely different game to me. Had the game finished 0-1 as it should have, I very much doubt we would be arguing the toss over the very few chances we had. Ridiculous.

[IDM]

This debate is nothing to do with the game, it’s about your ridiculous statement.

[Danmckay456]

A refreshing change not playing well and getting results , I’d of snapped you’re hand off for 3 points from 2 games - Bradford and Sutton will be up there come the end of the season so give us some credit , performances will come when we get players back and understanding between players  gel.

[Jonathan]

No-one would begin to suggest we played well today. But what we definitely did do was to figure out a way of controlling the game in the second half.

That revolved around Clayton dropping deep, finding space and time and picking out probing passes.

It was a long way from perfect, but you could see us controlling the game more and more as the second half progressed. The goals finally came and because they came late, it looks like a very lucky escape. But the goals came because we kept on probing and eventually made the chances. As I've said elsewhere, if those two goals had come in the 68th and 70th minutes, we'd be congratulating the side on a professional response to a woeful first half.

An indication of how much we dictated the second half - Sutton had one shot. Not because they were trying to shut up shop and get 11 men behind the ball. Because we kept them out of possession for much of the half, and we got into them when they did have the ball.

I said in another post that there was something remorseless about us today. Not that we dominated or overwhelmed them. But we kept playing to a game plan and we increased the pressure on them. I said to the lads around me after 80 minutes that it felt like we were going to crack them. In the end we did.

It'll be interesting to see how the approach of Clayton threading balls through the midfield works if and when we have players like Taylor and Molyneux or Tomlin in the side to latch onto them. Today, there were several neat examples with Rowe and Hurst combining from Clayton's balls with crisp passes that almost opened them up but didn't quite. I can see that being a potent threat when we have a full set of attacking options to take advantage.

On a basic level, it was just refreshing to see us having a tactic. For the last 18 months, it felt like the nearest you'd get to tactics at Donny was to buy a box of those sugary little white mints.

100% this.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Steady on Jonathan. A box of chocolates and a card would do.

[sedwardsdrfc]

It’s a change from playing poorly and getting beat. Before we take too much from this I’d love us to play well a few times. Because if you play well 8 out of ten times you’ll get a good result. Winning and playing poorly only means anything if you play well most of the time.

It was under DM that we were about 3rd in the division but often very poor. Then we quickly stopped winning those games and thus started the slide we’re hopefully over now.

[belton rover]

Talking about DM: he said ‘pelanty’ three times in his post match interview, but He never said ‘yes, no’ at all.
He’s improving.

[ncRover]

If you weren't at the game today, you'd think some total falseities from reading this thread.

We had quite a number of chances today, just not consistent enough at getting into the box.

We weren't leggy at all, I think some in midfield wanted more time on the ball, and couldn't always deal with the Sutton pressing.

Oh, and McSheffrey was not tactically outclassed. He could have changed it earlier but he put faith in Andrews and it just didn't work. When he made the changes we stretched the Sutton defence and exploited their tired legs and minds to great effect, to win the game. He earned that celebration I'd say.

Did you see goalmouth scramble in the first half that was perilously close to a 2nd goal? And the chance they missed from about 3 yards out in the first half?

I’m an optimistic person, but there’s being realistic. It could have been 3-0 Sutton at half time.

[roversdude]

GMc wasn’t tactically outclassed it was like Ali and dope on the ropes lol. Let them run themselves into the ground then step up a gear

[ncRover]

Anyway, we won whilst playing poorly. There’s plenty of time to improve and once more are back fit we should do just fine.

[Donnywolf]

If you weren't at the game today, you'd think some total falseities from reading this thread.

We had quite a number of chances today, just not consistent enough at getting into the box.

We weren't leggy at all, I think some in midfield wanted more time on the ball, and couldn't always deal with the Sutton pressing.

Oh, and McSheffrey was not tactically outclassed. He could have changed it earlier but he put faith in Andrews and it just didn't work. When he made the changes we stretched the Sutton defence and exploited their tired legs and minds to great effect, to win the game. He earned that celebration I'd say.

Did you see goalmouth scramble in the first half that was perilously close to a 2nd goal? And the chance they missed from about 3 yards out in the first half?

I’m an optimistic person, but there’s being realistic. It could have been 3-0 Sutton at half time.

.... and don't forget the "inches wide" back header past Mitchell for another !