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[BillyStubbsTears]

Nc


Your insulation comment gets to the core of every libertarian fallacy. You simplify it down to the detailed cause and effect and ignore the wider consequences.

Here it's clear cut. If you insulate your house and I don't, YOU think you get the deserved advantage and what I do hurts only me.

But that's not correct.

Because I need to use more energy than I otherwise would, the renewable energy that we have available is not sufficient. So we have to import gas to make up the difference. But Putin has quintupled the cost of gas. So YOU end up paying more than you should because of MY failing.

That's precisely what libertarians don't get. They assume that people's actions affect only them. They don't get the complex dependencies and sensitivities to input decisions of a big, non-linear system like a society.

Sometimes we need Govt to take decisions in the wider interest. Here, if Govt had spent more on insulation, EVERYONE would be better off.

That was Lab's policy in 2010. That was one of the first ones the Tories ditched.

[SydneyRover]

To go over it all again

[BillyStubbsTears]

PS.

Churchill spent more than any other PM.in history.

He was a Tory.

It was circumstances, not preference.

[Donnywolf]

sunak - eat out to get covid, that sunak?

It's now "Eat out to Heat up"

[SydneyRover]

Not sure they'd want everyone taking their snap to the Danum Library.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Nadhim Zahawi

How it started:
https://twitter.com/nadhimzahawi/status/1544950219657330688

How it progressed:
https://twitter.com/nadhimzahawi/status/1554001185895587840

How it's going:
https://twitter.com/nadhimzahawi/status/1584099350048694273

Do you reckon he ever looks at himself in the mirror and thinks "What an utter Kitson you turned into"?

[MachoMadness]

Boris has 100 backers, but they go to another school.

If he really had 100, he'd have announced he's running already. Looking increasingly like a Sunak coronation is on the cards.

[turnbull for england]

Nadhim Zahawi

How it started:
https://twitter.com/nadhimzahawi/status/1544950219657330688

How it progressed:
https://twitter.com/nadhimzahawi/status/1554001185895587840

How it's going:
https://twitter.com/nadhimzahawi/status/1584099350048694273

Do you reckon he ever looks at himself in the mirror and thinks "What an utter Kitson you turned into"?

That level of bending whichever way the wind blows is shameless beyond belief.  Boris shouldn't ever be in power again, but does Zahawi really think a bit of toadying now will be enough to get back in his good books? Given his character he must know he will shaft him first chance he gets. Unreal

[DonnyOsmond]

Boris has 100 backers, but they go to another school.

If he really had 100, he'd have announced he's running already. Looking increasingly like a Sunak coronation is on the cards.

He's now asking Mordaunt to step aside, he must be panicking.

[tyke1962]

Even though I'm from the left Rebecca Long Bailey needs to shut the feck up and wind her neck in .

This isn't the time Rebecca , the only show in town is getting this wretched and corrupt government out of power and in the opposition benches for a decade minimum .

The country has to come first over ideology at this time .

Shut up please .

[ChrisBx]

It's looking increasingly likely that it's over for Johnson. The clown show may be coming to an end.

[scawsby steve]

It's now official. He's not going to run, stating that he can't run a party that isn't united.

[andy didcott]

Sunak it is then.

[SydneyRover]

He can't run a party as he didn't get the numbers, he ran a divided party previously

[mugnapper]

It seems the Tory party is united in not wanting him back as leader.
I wonder how Mr Zahari and Rees Mogg are feeling right now?

[scawsby steve]

The next question is, who will Sunak appoint as Chancellor? Will he stick with Hunt?

[MachoMadness]

He's not going to run as he didn't get anywhere near the number of backers required to do so. A bullshit artist to the last.

I notice he never had the b*llocks to formally announce he was running either.

[tyke1962]

It seems the Tory party is united in not wanting him back as leader.
I wonder how Mr Zahari and Rees Mogg are feeling right now?

Plotting Sunak's demise I reckon , Sunak's got huge problems dealing with the right wing nut jobs .

If he raises taxes watch those fruitcakes get to work .

[tyke1962]

The next question is, who will Sunak appoint as Chancellor? Will he stick with Hunt?

Stick with Hunt I reckon Steve .

[SydneyRover]

johnson's deal with sunak and maudant was ....... I'll be leader and you won't

[BillyStubbsTears]

The next question is, who will Sunak appoint as Chancellor? Will he stick with Hunt?

Yep

[wilts rover]

Nadhim Zahawi

How it started:
https://twitter.com/nadhimzahawi/status/1544950219657330688

How it progressed:
https://twitter.com/nadhimzahawi/status/1554001185895587840

How it's going:
https://twitter.com/nadhimzahawi/status/1584099350048694273

Do you reckon he ever looks at himself in the mirror and thinks "What an utter Kitson you turned into"?

Ahem.....

https://twitter.com/nadhimzahawi/status/1584280847141638144

[wilts rover]

The next question is, who will Sunak appoint as Chancellor? Will he stick with Hunt?

I can't see why he wouldn't, they have pretty much the same policies. But who knows, maybe he promised it to the Laarry the cat. Nothing would suprise me now from this lot.

[BillyStubbsTears]

I'd hoped for a bit better from Chris Mason after he replaced that disaster Kuenssberg as the BBC Political Editor.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ChrisMasonBBC/status/1583818749647687680

Looks like he's another one that sees his job as tweeting whatever message Johnson wants to put out.

Why doesn't he preface that with "We know from bitter experience that Johnson is barely on nodding terms with the truth, but...:

Boris Johnson. Liar right up to the bitter end. Let him now f**k off to whatever luxury resort some corrupt t**t will pay for and never besmirch our politics ever again.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Nadhim Zahawi

How it started:
https://twitter.com/nadhimzahawi/status/1544950219657330688

How it progressed:
https://twitter.com/nadhimzahawi/status/1554001185895587840

How it's going:
https://twitter.com/nadhimzahawi/status/1584099350048694273

Do you reckon he ever looks at himself in the mirror and thinks "What an utter Kitson you turned into"?

Ahem.....

https://twitter.com/nadhimzahawi/status/1584280847141638144

And he's another one that should never be given a chance to be involved in governing the country again. Get the lot of them smoked out.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Is this the first time Johnson has withdrawn?

If Stanley had done so 58 years ago, the UK would be a far healthier place today.

[tyke1962]

 GB News in meltdown right now .

[SydneyRover]

Johnson said he will go back to Uxbridge and help the people of his constituency deal with the onset of winter and the cost of living.

[tommy toes]

I always said that Zahawi was the worst of a bad bunch.
Christ Almighty the man has no shame.
Love some of the replies to his tweet BTW.

[Colemans Left Hook]

Is this the first time Johnson has withdrawn?

If Stanley had done so 58 years ago, the UK would be a far healthier place today.

that was a bit below the belt 

Morduant in my world is now going to get 100 votes - assuming we dont have a new contender and it goes to the members doesn't according to the earlier polls she beat Sunak -- (now his photographic skills of taking photos of next door neighbours has been "exposed" )
  ??


Sunak is 16/1 on to win from 20/1 on --     so i have laid Sunak to lose the profit (cashed out) I made on Boris

it's a chance to make a lot of money worth taking. - for nothing.