The Labour Files

[Sprotyrover]

Absolutely you can't change your thoughts just because of the party they're coming from.  If you're a fan of Jeremy Corbyns labour and policies I don't see how you can be a fan of Starmers labour, they're very very different.

Labour will attract millions who voted Tory with these policies and get power but they'll have to hold steady, if they then move from those policies they'll get slaughtered the next time round and this is a real chance for them to get power for 15 years +.

There must be shed loads you don't see pud, the suffering and starvation of the poor under tory Austerity, yet you continued to vote for them, go lecture someone else.

It's much easier to see what's happening in this country and what people in this country think when you're actually here.  We'd have much more positive politics if it wasn't as you are so focussed on what people call "the other side".

The snip on Rachel Reeves is the potential issue Labour could have in future.  They now likely have to actually carry out all of the things they've criticised the government for and do things differently.  We'll see what they're made of and I hope they achieve what they say they're going to because economic growth, wage rises above inflation, sensible housing market, low NHS waiting lists and lower/controlled immigration are all things we want aren't they?  Sounds easy right?

So I need to be in the country to see that the tories never ever keep their grand promises and screw over working people in favour of their own position. I need to be in the country to see them try to paint over Austerity that is now still brining councils to their knees, that would promote people such as the spivs, May, Johnson, Truss and now Risky giving up on all his promises? Give over pud, you have never wavered in your loyalty to them never for a second, and you try tell me whom I should back in!

Tell me again about brexit please.

You on the ‘Tinnies’ again Sydders,

[SydneyRover]

brexit you can see it from the moon


vote tory

[Bristol Red Rover]

They didn't win though did they?

See my reply above.

[Bristol Red Rover]

I think seeing the Tories, and the Tory lites, from outside Britain if you've ever lived here can be more stark than it is when living here. On the other hand, for people that have never lived here it's possibly seen as a bit quaint, quintessential British, missing the absolute perverse reality of it.

[SydneyRover]

Lo, is that the faint hum of a russian drone I hear?

[ravenrover]

I think seeing the Tories, and the Tory lites, from outside Britain if you've ever lived here can be more stark than it is when living here. On the other hand, for people that have never lived here it's possibly seen as a bit quaint, quintessential British, missing the absolute perverse reality of it.

Go on then I'll ask
Where is HERE?

[BillyStubbsTears]

Absolutely you can't change your thoughts just because of the party they're coming from.  If you're a fan of Jeremy Corbyns labour and policies I don't see how you can be a fan of Starmers labour, they're very very different.

Labour will attract millions who voted Tory with these policies and get power but they'll have to hold steady, if they then move from those policies they'll get slaughtered the next time round and this is a real chance for them to get power for 15 years +.

There must be shed loads you don't see pud, the suffering and starvation of the poor under tory Austerity, yet you continued to vote for them, go lecture someone else.

It's much easier to see what's happening in this country and what people in this country think when you're actually here.  We'd have much more positive politics if it wasn't as you are so focussed on what people call "the other side".

The snip on Rachel Reeves is the potential issue Labour could have in future.  They now likely have to actually carry out all of the things they've criticised the government for and do things differently.  We'll see what they're made of and I hope they achieve what they say they're going to because economic growth, wage rises above inflation, sensible housing market, low NHS waiting lists and lower/controlled immigration are all things we want aren't they?  Sounds easy right?

BFYP

Do you ever reflect on how badly misled you were nearly a decade and a half ago when you swallowed the line that Austerity was necessary?

Have you ever reflected on the almost unimaginable damage that did to the country.

You're here. You've seen it.

[Bristol Red Rover]

I think seeing the Tories, and the Tory lites, from outside Britain if you've ever lived here can be more stark than it is when living here. On the other hand, for people that have never lived here it's possibly seen as a bit quaint, quintessential British, missing the absolute perverse reality of it.

Go on then I'll ask
Where is HERE?

Britain. Was in the context of someone slagging Sydney for having an opinion in the comments immediately before.

[Bristol Red Rover]

Lo, is that the faint hum of a russian drone I hear?

Probs tinnitus, or a Queensland
whinging pom orchid wasp in your ear - go for a swim.

[tyke1962]

Oh dear , Labour facing legal action , mistreatment of Jews .

https://youtu.be/az1n0h1A5mA?si=41_X_t2WFUAgI-3G

[drfchound]

Oh dear , Labour facing legal action , mistreatment of Jews .

https://youtu.be/az1n0h1A5mA?si=41_X_t2WFUAgI-3G

Surely not.

[Bentley Bullet]

It can't be true, otherwise, Billy would have started a thread about it.

[albie]

There are broader concerns about the actions of Labour in relation to racism, set out by Martyn Forde in his report;
https://youtu.be/tiODoWurA64

The hierarchy of racism might lead to other claims, where ethnic minority groups have suffered disadvantage or exclusion.

[SydneyRover]

There are broader concerns about the actions of Labour in relation to racism, set out by Martyn Forde in his report;
https://youtu.be/tiODoWurA64

The hierarchy of racism might lead to other claims, where ethnic minority groups have suffered disadvantage or exclusion.

In Copley rd Albie?

[tyke1962]

Cognitive dissonance

[drfchound]

There are broader concerns about the actions of Labour in relation to racism, set out by Martyn Forde in his report;
https://youtu.be/tiODoWurA64

The hierarchy of racism might lead to other claims, where ethnic minority groups have suffered disadvantage or exclusion.

In Copley rd Albie?

Can you show how albies point might refer to Copley Road Syd.

[SydneyRover]

There are broader concerns about the actions of Labour in relation to racism, set out by Martyn Forde in his report;
https://youtu.be/tiODoWurA64

The hierarchy of racism might lead to other claims, where ethnic minority groups have suffered disadvantage or exclusion.

In Copley rd Albie?

Can you show how albies point might refer to Copley Road Syd.

As local expert on Copley rd I was expecting you to do that, hound. (not an expert on grammer but I think you missed out a comma)

[drfchound]

There are broader concerns about the actions of Labour in relation to racism, set out by Martyn Forde in his report;
https://youtu.be/tiODoWurA64

The hierarchy of racism might lead to other claims, where ethnic minority groups have suffered disadvantage or exclusion.

In Copley rd Albie?

Can you show how albies point might refer to Copley Road Syd.

As local expert on Copley rd I was expecting you to do that, hound. (not an expert on grammer but I think you missed out a comma)

I knew why you posted what you did syd and seeing as you have no idea what Copley Road is like now, I thought you ought to know.
Oh, and I didn’t miss out a comma.
So, the question (still) is, how can albies point refer to Copley Road?

[SydneyRover]

not an expert hound, can't possibly know living over here

[albie]

Not really sure what is floating Syd's boat, but here is an explainer from George Monbiot on the quality of our political leaders:
https://youtu.be/Zcn-LYa4fLE

The Red/Blue Tory consensus is owned by the pollution industries,  and Keith is a lackey to those interests.
Hope that helps, Syd!

[SydneyRover]

Albie, Albie, this was a question that was asked yesterday (not me)

''who put Corbyn in charge of the LP and he brought about the biggest defeat in decades for them.''

It is something you could comment on?

[albie]

Private Eye article on the legal costs Starmer has run up pursuing actions without merit;
https://www.private-eye.co.uk/hp-sauce