Strange how all the Tory haters have failed to raise this

[phil old leake]

Neath Labour MP Christina Rees suspended on bullying allegations https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-63245280

[Bentley Bullet]

No doubt a member of the Britain Surrendering Together Party will comment on this shortly.

[SydneyRover]

you just did

[BillyStubbsTears]

Neath Labour MP Christina Rees suspended on bullying allegations https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-63245280

I don't really understand your point here Phil.

An accusation of bullying behaviour has been made. Labour has immediately suspended the MP and instigated an investigation.

This news has only broken in the last couple of hours. What exactly is your issue here?

Still, you've got BB posting useful contributions, so well done.

[Bentley Bullet]

The point is, if this story had been about a Tory MP, you or one of your cronies would have started a thread about it.

[grayx]

The point is, if this story had been about a Tory MP, you or one of your cronies would have started a thread about it.

Tory MP’s too busy touching up young men.

[BillyStubbsTears]

The point is, if this story had been about a Tory MP, you or one of your cronies would have started a thread about it.

One of my cronies.

Are you EVER going to grow up?

[Bentley Bullet]

Are you ever going to actually address the point of my post?

[BillyStubbsTears]

No. Because it's been years since you've made a remotely interesting point.

[wilts rover]

Does anyone have a link to the Priti Patel bullying thread please?

It will be interesting to see what the people complaining about Starmer suspending an MP due to a complaint had to say about Johnson ignoring an Offical Report detailing bullying incidents?

Or Daniel Kawcynski, suspended from Parliament for bullying by Standards Committe but no action taken by Johnson.

Or peado rapist MP Imran Khan - known to have bullied staff for several years but allowed to stand as a Tory MP and never suspended, until the rape trial, even after further allegations to Johnson.

Or Justin Johnson, accused of bullying by five members of staff but chosen to be Deputy Party Chairman by Johnson.

Any links at all to posts/threads will do thanks. I am sure there must have been loads by the people who only want to criticise Labour.

[drfchound]

Wilts, when all those links appear won’t it show how many people only want to criticise the government though?

[wilts rover]

No of course it wont hound. Because the people complaining about Starmer suspending a suspected bully are clearly interested in throwing all bullies out of parliament from whatever party - or they would be seen as hypocrits.

So there will be loads of posts from them on those Tory cases. Won't there...

[phil old leake]

Glad that BB and Hound got my point

[drfchound]

Wilts, in your above reply number nine, you yourself only mention Tory people when asking for links to the cases.

[Bentley Bullet]

Of course, the Labour party has to react when situations like this come to light because it has spent the entire last 3 years or so preaching how moral it is and how immoral the Tory party is. The party simply could not turn a blind eye to it.

It's a pity its supporters on here don't react as fast and instead turn a blind eye to it!

[Colin C No.3]

Turn a blind eye to it?

Labour supporters needn’t have to make a comment when the party has already dealt with the matter.

Unlike the Tories who ignored bullying complaints or simply dismissed them out of hand time after time, after time, after time.

[Glyn_Wigley]

It's a pity its supporters on here don't react as fast and instead turn a blind eye to it!

Perhaps if the OP had posted this a significant amount of time after instead of just two hours after the BBC put that article online you might - for once - have a point.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Turn a blind eye to it?

Labour supporters needn’t have to make a comment when the party has already dealt with the matter.

Unlike the Tories who ignored bullying complaints or simply dismissed them out of hand time after time, after time, after time.

This!

The problem which this thread highlights starkly is that there are a few people in here who are absolutely desperate to convince themselves that the people they disagree with are hypocrites.

It's really quite sad to see it played out time after time, because I'm sure those posters aren't actually unpleasant people. They are just stuck in a mindset.

[Bentley Bullet]

The point is, if this story had been about a Tory MP, you or one of your comrades would have started a thread about it.

[BillyStubbsTears]

BB.

If the Tory party had always over recent years quickly and effectively dealt with issues like this, there'd be nothing to discuss.

The issue isn't whether all political parties have some very nasty people in them. Of course they do. Every cross section of society has some deeply unpleasant people. You only need to look at one or two contributers in here.

The issue had been that for years, the Tory party had turned a blind eye to the very worst cases of intomidatory or sexually transgressive behaviour. Generally, although not always, the Labour party hasn't turned a blind eye.

Let's look the couple of most recent cases.

A Tory MP has been accused of a sexual offence. By the time I personally became aware of it, Truss had already acted to discipline him. Which is exactly as it should be. As a result, I personally didn't feel the need to comment on it. Although I note that you very much tried, for reasons known only to yourself, to drag my name into the discussion.

In this latest case, the news that Labour were disciplining the MP was out before the OP was even made. So I didn't feel any need to comment on it. I DID comment on the fact that the OP was suggesting there was something to comment on, which I found odd. And before I'd even done that, I note that you'd waded in with your own effort to make this yet another argument about hypocrisy.

I wish you didn't do this because I know you are smart enough to contribute useful stuff if you weren't so dead set on doing nothing but trying to have fights. But I've long resigned myself that you aren't going to change, so I'll just go back to ignoring you if it's all the same.

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BST, did you or your fellow Labour supporters on here ever start a thread concerning the occasions when Labour turned a blind eye to bad conduct?

If the Tory party had always over recent years quickly and effectively dealt with issues like this, are you sure there'd be nothing to discuss? Would you or one of your fellow labour supporters on this forum have found the suspect guilty from the start, and declared a whitewash if the suspect was acquitted following the inquiry?

I think so.

[phil old leake]

Don’t be silly BB it’s only the Tories that do things wrong

You need to get a grip and remember all Labour MPs are perfect.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Don’t be silly BB it’s only the Tories that do things wrong

You need to get a grip and remember all Labour MPs are perfect.

How does that square with what I wrote here?

If you start off deciding what you want to think, and refuse to listen to anything else, you'll end up thinking what you decided to think at the start.

Perfect example you've just given us.

[phil old leake]

BST can I have a pint of what your on. Is there anything that you can’t twist to suit your way of thinking. 

Obviously you have no sense of humour

[Mike_F]

Don’t be silly BB it’s only the Tories that do things wrong

You need to get a grip and remember all Labour MPs are perfect.

The issue isn't whether all political parties have some very nasty people in them. Of course they do. Every cross section of society has some deeply unpleasant people.

Eh?

[Mike_F]

P.S. I'm not a cronie of anyone here and I don't have a vested interest. In fact I very rarely post at all these days but it's concerning that someone can read what BST wrote then reply as you did, Phil.

[tommy toes]

He's either thick or a wind up merchant Mike, and I don't think he's thick.

[wilts rover]

The point is, if this story had been about a Tory MP, you or one of your comrades would have started a thread about it.

If it were about a Tory MP you would criticise the people posting and put an alternative view about Labour./the other side.

But as it's a Labour MP you wont, but you will criticise the people who do.

[wilts rover]

P.S. I'm not a cronie of anyone here and I don't have a vested interest. In fact I very rarely post at all these days but it's concerning that someone can read what BST wrote then reply as you did, Phil.

Anyone reading my posts and my replies to Phil will see I have the opposite political point of view to him and disagree with him on (nearly) all political topics. But I dont believe he has any malovent intentions - he is just fixed in his point of view and people are misunderstanding his 'humour'.

I actually appreciate his threads like this, gives us something to talk about.

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The point is, if this story had been about a Tory MP, you or one of your comrades would have started a thread about it.

If it were about a Tory MP you would criticise the people posting and put an alternative view about Labour./the other side.

But as it's a Labour MP you wont, but you will criticise the people who do.

How would my participation in your Tory-kicking obsession redress the balance of the forum?