Elon Musk

[ncRover]

Yes I did say that in the last few years Twitter has been left-leaning. I gave examples of them actively interfering rather than a user just posting something (which you have done with the replacement theory) and you have ignored them. You’re trying to distract from my argument.

The page “Libs of TikTok” has also been banned previously. YouTube also removed in the past arguments against vaccine passports (defend anything here as going against Objective Truth

https://bigbrotherwatch.org.uk/2021/10/youtube-censors-david-davis-mps-speech-against-vaccine-passports/

[BillyStubbsTears]

Just a thought.

Do you know any prominent left-leaning social media users who deliberately pour out rivers of misinformation on Twitter?

Serious question.

[ncRover]

Just a thought.

Do you know any prominent left-leaning social media users who deliberately pour out rivers of misinformation on Twitter?

Serious question.

You’re struggling to stay on course here BST. Please engage properly.

Yes. See my previous post on topics that are left leaning and questionable. I’m not saying that those on the right don’t - some very strange Ukraine takes for example.

I saw a viral tweet recently that said that Braverman and Patel wouldn’t have let their own parents in to the country.

Jess Phillips claimed Kwarteng lost the economy 65 billion. People say his mini-budget was an inside job so his mates could short the pound.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Remind me where you showed me examples of left leaning deliberate misinformation.

[BillyStubbsTears]

And perhaps, while we are talking about staying on course, given that you are insisting that social media has a left leaning bias, you could point me to examples of where there have been examples of social media being used by left-leaning people to organise genocide, disrupt elections and invite mass murders.

Just to keep this on course, you see?

Regarding David David, I'm not in favour as a rule of censoring MPs. I don't know what the circumstances of his speech being taken off YouTube. But he's on thin ice taking the moral high road, given his egregious lying over Brexit, discussed in some detail in here over the years.

[ncRover]

Like I said, plenty of communists on Twitter and they killed millions and millions.

[ncRover]

Just a thought.

Do you know any prominent left-leaning social media users who deliberately pour out rivers of misinformation on Twitter?

Serious question.

Russell Brand for one

[ncRover]

Remind me where you showed me examples of left leaning deliberate misinformation.

#23 and more examples of questionable censorship / authoritarianism throughout the thread.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Nc.

See, this is where I'm struggling with you.

I'm talking about clear and unambiguous and deliberate and malicious spreading of things which are demonstrably false.


That list you gave is pretty much entirely "things which I, as a right-leaning person (which I would argue you clearly are) disagree with". For what it's worth I'll address every point in your #23 post, although quite frankly, none of them are really worth addressing in the context of what this thread was intended to be about - then I'm continuing with a particularly busy day at work.

1) I'm really not going down the trans rabbit hole, but I sense a very particular moral standpoint from your words. That's fine. You have the right to be disgusted by whatever you want. Just don't confuse your own prejudices with Objective Truth.

2) Masks DO reduce the transmission of COVID.

3) Vaccination DOES reduce the transmission of COVID. (PS: Forgive my tetchiness here, but I'm REALLY tired over how many times we went round this hamster wheel before you joined the discussion.)

4) Russia unquestionably DID materially help Trump defeat Clinton. They hacked emailsand passed them through Wikileaks into the public domain. Clinton's emails were a HUGE factor in the 2016 election. I really don't understand what point you are trying to make here.

5) Our very own Parliamentary Intelligence and Security Committee (chaired by a Tory MP, and with a majority of Tory MPs) has said there is very strong prima facie evidence for Russian interference in our elections. They expressed incredulity that Johnson's Government refused to hold a full investigation into the issue.

6) The NHS point is a political argument, not an issue of Objective Truth.

If these and the Hunter Biden (Jesus!) story are really what you're basing your case on, then we are clearly talking about very different things. So I'm going to politely wish you well and stop engaging, because there are only so many hours in the day.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Musk's a Kitson isn't he?

Looks like he's just cut a swathe through the Twitter moderation staff. And not even told them - just locked them out of their accounts and wiped their computers as they were sat working at them.

[SydneyRover]

apparently musk is to sack everyone and run it from his phone

[tyke1962]

apparently musk is to sack everyone and run it from his phone

7000 were sacked today , unlawfully as it happens , he's not followed the correct procedures according to US Federal Law .

7000 law suits coming his way , not that he can't afford it mind .

Deleted my account as of today .

[wilts rover]

Apparently in the technical department he sacked the least productive staff first.

That is, he sacked the most experinced staff who were working on the most difficult, complex issues and kept the least experienced who had been given lots of easy stuff to do.

And this bloke is taking people to the moon!!!

[SydneyRover]

an entity without checks and balances run on the whim of the ceo ....... hmmmm

[normal rules]

This policy looks like it’s backfiring on him. Many big name sponsors are suspending or pulling out their interest in Twitter. Many of the staff that worked as moderators have been laid off and most of the staff used to sort the algorithms out. So there is every chance Twitter will become a much more rogue social media platform without moderation. Then there is the suggested cost of using it for those that choose to. I can see the general public that use this shifting to another platform.

[wilts rover]

I agree with normal. At the moment all that Musk looks like doing is putting 4chan (other non-moderated fascist forums are available) out of business as its users move over and everyone else leaves.

Mastodon is the one the music people I follow are moving to, if anyone is interested.

[ravenrover]

I'm out the minute they say you have to pay

[MachoMadness]

Apparently in the technical department he sacked the least productive staff first.

That is, he sacked the most experinced staff who were working on the most difficult, complex issues and kept the least experienced who had been given lots of easy stuff to do.

And this bloke is taking people to the moon!!!

To be specific, he sacked the staff based on the amount of code they've written. He sacked the ones who wrote the least code.

Anyone with even a basic knowledge of coding will tell you how stupid this is. Often the best coding is about doing what you need to in as few lines as possible. If you can delete 50 lines of code and do the job by writing one, you're probably a great coder. The guy is a clown, and a deeply stupid person. The more control he has over a project, the worse it tends to get. And he's got total control over Twitter now.

[normal rules]

I agree with normal. At the moment all that Musk looks like doing is putting 4chan (other non-moderated fascist forums are available) out of business as its users move over and everyone else leaves.

Mastodon is the one the music people I follow are moving to, if anyone is interested.

Sounds like Mastodon is struggling to cope with the migration to their app.

[foxbat]

Mastodon here we come !

[BillyStubbsTears]

Musk running Twitter is like a hyperactive kid being given a tank.

https://mobile.twitter.com/hyperplanes/status/1590389219280633856

[ncRover]

Has Mastadon taken over yet then? It’s way below Twitter on the app charts

[BillyStubbsTears]

He's...he's just a big f**king kid running round pressing buttons isn't he?

https://mobile.twitter.com/CCSewell/status/1592257949971673088

[Sprotyrover]

I hope the thing collapses I have never used it and won't miss it?

[BillyStubbsTears]

Sproty.

It's nothing but a form of communication. It has some people communicating lies. It has some people communicating brilliant ideas. It has some people communicating pointless guff.

It's a reflection of humanity.

It can be a great benefit to the world. Or it can be deliberately used to f**k everything over.

What Musk is doing is diving in and dicking about with it because he's like a kid trying out his authority.

If it collapses, something will replace it.

Because there are people who want to communicate brilliant ideas, people who want to communicate lies and people who want to communicate meaningless guff.

You use this place. In many ways it's just a tiny version of Twitter. You get what you want out of it. By not using Twitter, you're just staying in a tiny corner of the world.

[ncRover]

I would bet you a lot of money that it isn’t overtaken by a similar app in the next 5 years.

[Colin C No.3]

Sproty.

It's nothing but a form of communication. It has some people communicating lies. It has some people communicating brilliant ideas. It has some people communicating pointless guff.

It's a reflection of humanity.

It can be a great benefit to the world. Or it can be deliberately used to f**k everything over.

What Musk is doing is diving in and dicking about with it because he's like a kid trying out his authority.

If it collapses, something will replace it.

Because there are people who want to communicate brilliant ideas, people who want to communicate lies and people who want to communicate meaningless guff.

You use this place. In many ways it's just a tiny version of Twitter. You get what you want out of it. By not using Twitter, you're just staying in a tiny corner of the world.

I live without ‘guff’ & lies very happily.

As for brilliance, true brilliance will shine out with or without twitter.

If not having (or having never had) a twitter account truly leaves me in just a ‘tiny corner of the world’ (which I take exception to even though th slight wasn’t actually directed at me) then I can live with that.

[BillyStubbsTears]

I don't have an active Twitter account either. I use Twitter to listen to some absolute geniuses in various fields. I've learned things I could never have begin to imagine. It's a true privilege.

I don't get the prickly insularity of some folk on this issue.

[wilts rover]

Wont be long now it seems:

I was laid off from Twitter this afternoon. I was in charge of managing badge access to Twitter offices.

Elon just called me and asked if I could come back to help them regain access to HQ as they shut off all badges and accidentally locked themselves out.

https://twitter.com/anothercohen/status/1593404311832338442

[MachoMadness]

Wont be long now it seems:

I was laid off from Twitter this afternoon. I was in charge of managing badge access to Twitter offices.

Elon just called me and asked if I could come back to help them regain access to HQ as they shut off all badges and accidentally locked themselves out.

https://twitter.com/anothercohen/status/1593404311832338442

This is actually not quite true, this guy is joking, or shitposting in twitter lingo. However they have locked their offices because of musk's bone headed decision to send out an email to all staff basically asking them to click an opt in link to continue working there. He said doing so would need them to be "hardcore".

Unsurprisingly most staff did not engage with this, with around 75% of current staff expected to leave as a result. Having that much of your workforce effectively resign at once means they aren't able to keep track who actually still works there and they need the weekend to figure it out.

Arguably that's worse that what you posted because it means there aren't enough staff to fix things if they break and the site could fall over at any time.