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dickos1

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Re: Schofield
« Reply #60 on December 27, 2022, 11:55:15 pm by dickos1 »
At least give him a window lads.

Throw him through one, we are seeing zero improvement, no one has any idea what he’s trying to do, I see no urgency on the pitch or on the bench, what b*llocks will he come out with after that?

He’s been in charge for 8 league games.
He’s managed to get 10 points from a side that he he hasn’t signed one player
Some folk need to get a grip



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Filo

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« Reply #61 on December 28, 2022, 06:30:52 am by Filo »
At least give him a window lads.

Throw him through one, we are seeing zero improvement, no one has any idea what he’s trying to do, I see no urgency on the pitch or on the bench, what b*llocks will he come out with after that?

He’s been in charge for 8 league games.
He’s managed to get 10 points from a side that he he hasn’t signed one player
Some folk need to get a grip

If you are happy with the shite that is being served up I think its you that needs to get a grip

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« Reply #62 on December 28, 2022, 06:07:40 pm by Red wizard »
Was only other week some was comparing how we played to how it was under Sod. Why we keep hiring inexperienced managers is a joke. Not once has it worked. The whole plan needs looking at imo. However it's not our call and the powers that be will do what they want. JR must be fuming when he sees what's happening an  all that hard work no gone.

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« Reply #63 on December 28, 2022, 06:21:00 pm by BiargeBob »
Was only other week some was comparing how we played to how it was under Sod. Why we keep hiring inexperienced managers is a joke. Not once has it worked. The whole plan needs looking at imo. However it's not our call and the powers that be will do what they want. JR must be fuming when he sees what's happening an  all that hard work no gone.

JR sacked SOD, look where that got us.

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« Reply #64 on December 28, 2022, 06:47:48 pm by Retdon1 »
He needs to quickly realise he’s working with average/poor league 2 players. Stop trying to get plodders to play out from the Back.

Red wizard

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« Reply #65 on December 28, 2022, 08:28:40 pm by Red wizard »
I think we all know there was a lot more to that. The week before JR said he wouldn't sack him. Still the man he employed built a side that won l1.  JR had a knack for picking the right manager.Dickov aside and he almost kept us up. One thing for sure JR wouldn't of hired 3 inexperienced managers on the trot. Water under the bridge now and I don't want to sound like this is a rant at the current owners as we all know there isn't a long line of millionaires chomping at the bit to buy us. We just need a rethink on how there running things. If that's a middle l2 side then say that. Facts are that's where we at  at now and it will be a few years to claw our way back to a top half l1 side.

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« Reply #66 on December 28, 2022, 08:43:00 pm by Upton Rover »
Not only does an experienced manager have a good knowledge of the game, but what’s more important is the contacts, with other clubs and players and managers, we have gone for the cheap option with the past 3 simple as that

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« Reply #67 on December 29, 2022, 06:15:42 am by Sammy Chung was King »
We have but he’s the manager now. He deserves our support surely?. The job is hard enough as it is. The more our support get on the back of the team and manager, we make it easy for the opposition. The owners want us to do well as do the players and manager. We have a right to question things but when the game gets going surely it’s better to support than boo and whinge?.

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« Reply #68 on December 29, 2022, 07:46:20 am by Upton Rover »
Our last three managers have had the job for 3 months, 4 months, and 9 months respectively. We’ve now got to trust Schofield and give him this window and the next window. We are going to be in League Two next season and you’d hope that having had two windows to clear out the squad, we’d be in a better place come August.

One other point worth remembering. Didn’t the job description have some criteria about playing exciting and entertaining football? It’s currently as bad as it has been since 1997/98.
why? He’s garbage

Filo

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« Reply #69 on December 30, 2022, 10:56:45 am by Filo »
Again last night, second half we are being dominated, I look to the bench to hope that he changes things, it was obvious things or personnel needed changing, there was nothing, does he know how to change things? Yes we won the game, but yet again the performance especially second half was awful, porbably the most boring 4-3 I’ve ever attended

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« Reply #70 on December 30, 2022, 11:05:00 am by Goole Rover »
Our last three managers have had the job for 3 months, 4 months, and 9 months respectively. We’ve now got to trust Schofield and give him this window and the next window. We are going to be in League Two next season and you’d hope that having had two windows to clear out the squad, we’d be in a better place come August.

One other point worth remembering. Didn’t the job description have some criteria about playing exciting and entertaining football? It’s currently as bad as it has been since 1997/98.
why? He’s garbage
He could learn by his mistakes most good managers do the great Lawrie did and it looks like Richie has. Give the bloke a chance lets hope he gets the chance to improve things in the window.

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« Reply #71 on December 30, 2022, 12:07:21 pm by ForsolongaRover »
Our last three managers have had the job for 3 months, 4 months, and 9 months respectively. We’ve now got to trust Schofield and give him this window and the next window. We are going to be in League Two next season and you’d hope that having had two windows to clear out the squad, we’d be in a better place come August.

One other point worth remembering. Didn’t the job description have some criteria about playing exciting and entertaining football? It’s currently as bad as it has been since 1997/98.
why? He’s garbage
He could learn by his mistakes most good managers do the great Lawrie did and it looks like Richie has. Give the bloke a chance lets hope he gets the chance to improve things in the window.

He could… but if you listen to him he talks in cliches about positivity and so forth. He is not a pragmatist. He is fundamentally bound to his coaching manual and could be quoting directly from that for a good deal of the time. Unlike those watching he seems to think Rovers were in some kind of control of the second half. He seems unable to open his eyes and perceive reality.

dickos1

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« Reply #72 on December 30, 2022, 12:39:39 pm by dickos1 »
At least give him a window lads.

Throw him through one, we are seeing zero improvement, no one has any idea what he’s trying to do, I see no urgency on the pitch or on the bench, what b*llocks will he come out with after that?

He’s been in charge for 8 league games.
He’s managed to get 10 points from a side that he he hasn’t signed one player
Some folk need to get a grip

If you are happy with the shite that is being served up I think its you that needs to get a grip

I imagine you were moaning like this ten games into sods reign, when we actually got less points than we have under Schofield.
Need to show some patience, slagging off a manager after ten games without him making a single signing is crackers

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« Reply #73 on December 30, 2022, 01:38:29 pm by no eyed deer »
The tactics are no different to McSheffrey, the results are no different. you could see that they would score the third and nothing. 

The atmosphere will soon become toxic unless players of a certain quality are signed and things change, fans have had their fill now.

Goole Rover

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« Reply #74 on December 30, 2022, 01:50:05 pm by Goole Rover »
The tactics are no different to McSheffrey, the results are no different. you could see that they would score the third and nothing. 

The atmosphere will soon become toxic unless players of a certain quality are signed and things change, fans have had their fill now.
Give the man a chance and think back to the Tranmere game we were all over them in the first 10 minutes or so then following the missed chances heads went down and things went from bad to worse.
He’s inherited the current players some who are light weight and don’t have a fight in their make up things won't change until they’re replaced.

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« Reply #75 on December 30, 2022, 01:50:46 pm by DonnyOsmond »
It's definitely better under Schofield than under McSheffrey.

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« Reply #76 on December 30, 2022, 01:52:13 pm by Chris Black come back »
One area of deep concern is that we had seemingly appointed Copps to effectively make transfer decisions, not the sole reserve of the manager any longer. We made a raft of signings in the summer when Copps was in this post, and we are now struggling to remain mid-table in the lowest professional tier of the game. I’m not wholly convinced this window will be the success many think it will be.

dickos1

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« Reply #77 on December 30, 2022, 02:12:00 pm by dickos1 »
We’re not having a great season but by no means are we struggling to remain midtable

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« Reply #78 on December 30, 2022, 03:05:50 pm by Chris Black come back »
We are exactly mid table. 12th in a league of 24 teams. Our form under Schofield has been 1.3 points per game, compared to 1.5 points per game over the first half of the season in total. We would go backwards if we continue to accrue at 1.3 points per game.
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« Reply #79 on December 30, 2022, 03:07:28 pm by DonnyBazR0ver »
One area of deep concern is that we had seemingly appointed Copps to effectively make transfer decisions, not the sole reserve of the manager any longer. We made a raft of signings in the summer when Copps was in this post, and we are now struggling to remain mid-table in the lowest professional tier of the game. I’m not wholly convinced this window will be the success many think it will be.

I don't think anyone can be confident with the transfer window but, at least it is an opportunity for Copps and Schofield to jiggle things about.

As in the summer, you would hope Copps has done the homework and groundwork by speaking to players and agents  for specific positions.

It's always settling if we can at least one over the line early whilst others we might have competition for.

We'll get the usual impatience from fans if nowt happens in the first week of the window plus the conspiracy theories.

We signed Miller and Molyneux without much fuss so no reason to believe we can't do the same again.

I wouldn't rule out the odd loan either, afterall, that's how Whiteman came to us in the first place and I'm sure we'd welcome a young player of the same potential!!

The objective is we come out of the window better than we started both outward and inward.

Schfield deserves a fair crack of the whip so we'll see what's presented to him and whether that gives us the chance to bridge the small gap to the play offs and beyond.

What I will say about Schofield, he doesn't come across like he's under undue pressure or is likely to panic.

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« Reply #80 on December 30, 2022, 03:34:23 pm by ForsolongaRover »
“What I will say about Schofield, he doesn't come across like he's under undue pressure or is likely to panic.
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You say this and I agree this is how he comes across, but to me it indicates a single-mindedness and a closed mind to any outside influence. Copps seems a sensitive, considerate individual who listens and I’m afraid Schofield strikes me like someone who will do everything his way and not be easily influenced. Does he ever refer to discussing things with Copps in his interviews?

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« Reply #81 on December 30, 2022, 04:54:38 pm by Goole Rover »
“What I will say about Schofield, he doesn't come across like he's under undue pressure or is likely to panic.

You say this and I agree this is how he comes across, but to me it indicates a single-mindedness and a closed mind to any outside influence. Copps seems a sensitive, considerate individual who listens and I’m afraid Schofield strikes me like someone who will do everything his way and not be easily influenced. Does he ever refer to discussing things with Copps in his interviews?
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A bit unfair to judge the man until you’ve met him, my apologies if you have. I certainly had an opinion on McCann and Ferguson after attending meetings. After watching Dikov play and manage I got it completely wrong, a lovely friendly bloke.

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« Reply #82 on December 30, 2022, 06:00:43 pm by ravenrover »
We are exactly mid table. 12th in a league of 24 teams. Our form under Schofield has been 1.3 points per game, compared to 1.5 points per game over the first half of the season in total. We would go backwards if we continue to accrue at 1.3 points per game.
Totally skued by the shaky wins we had early in the season

ForsolongaRover

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« Reply #83 on December 30, 2022, 09:11:20 pm by ForsolongaRover »
“What I will say about Schofield, he doesn't come across like he's under undue pressure or is likely to panic.

You say this and I agree this is how he comes across, but to me it indicates a single-mindedness and a closed mind to any outside influence. Copps seems a sensitive, considerate individual who listens and I’m afraid Schofield strikes me like someone who will do everything his way and not be easily influenced. Does he ever refer to discussing things with Copps in his interviews?
A bit unfair to judge the man until you’ve met him, my apologies if you have. I certainly had an opinion on McCann and Ferguson after attending meetings. After watching Dikov play and manage I got it completely wrong, a lovely friendly bloke.
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I have not met him - of course. The face he presents, officially as it were, is the one that he wants to define his relationship with the press and us. If he is actually more flexible and chose to be more honest about how he really regarded the performances he would “connect” more with us lot. Our successful previous managers have, for the most part, come over as more genuine. We are all watching the same match and him effectively pretending that we have got it all wrong does not go down well.

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« Reply #84 on December 30, 2022, 10:33:37 pm by bpoolrover »
It's definitely better under Schofield than under McSheffrey.
certain games have been better but some have been worse, the tranmere one was the worst I have seen for years, I think he does deserve a chance thou but his only chance will be good backing from the board

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« Reply #85 on December 31, 2022, 08:58:11 am by dickos1 »
It's definitely better under Schofield than under McSheffrey.
certain games have been better but some have been worse, the tranmere one was the worst I have seen for years, I think he does deserve a chance thou but his only chance will be good backing from the board

Tranmere wasn’t any worse than Carlisle, barrow, Hartlepool

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« Reply #86 on December 31, 2022, 09:02:59 am by Spud »
It's definitely better under Schofield than under McSheffrey.
certain games have been better but some have been worse, the tranmere one was the worst I have seen for years, I think he does deserve a chance thou but his only chance will be good backing from the board

Tranmere wasn’t any worse than Carlisle, barrow, Hartlepool

Colchester....

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« Reply #87 on December 31, 2022, 10:11:51 am by wilts rover »
I think we all know there was a lot more to that. The week before JR said he wouldn't sack him. Still the man he employed built a side that won l1.  JR had a knack for picking the right manager.Dickov aside and he almost kept us up. One thing for sure JR wouldn't of hired 3 inexperienced managers on the trot. Water under the bridge now and I don't want to sound like this is a rant at the current owners as we all know there isn't a long line of millionaires chomping at the bit to buy us. We just need a rethink on how there running things. If that's a middle l2 side then say that. Facts are that's where we at  at now and it will be a few years to claw our way back to a top half l1 side.

Which 3 would those be? Wellens had managed 150 games over 4 seasons at 3 previous clubs if you are including him.

The revival under Ryan started when he replaced a poor experienced manager (Wignall) with someone who had never managed a game in his life (Penney).

 

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