Zahawi

[SydneyRover]

If I'm allowed to speak, sunak has yet to reveal his own tax returns as promised on a couple of occasions.

[ncRover]

No active arguments in off topic whilst the main forum descends in to chaos. Fancy that!

[SydneyRover]

''Earlier, Mr Harra, the chief executive of HMRC, gave evidence to the Commons Public Accounts Committee about managing tax compliance following the pandemic.

The MPs also quizzed him about Mr Zahawi's tax arrangements.

He said he would not comment on specific individuals, but added: "There are no penalties for innocent errors in your tax affairs. So if you take reasonable care, but nevertheless make a mistake, whilst you will be liable for the tax and for interest if it's paid late, you would not be liable for a penalty''

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-64410490

It doesn't sound complicated to me, in fact very straight forward, but stupidly when I read that zahawi said 'careless' I thought he was referring to how HMRC had interpreted it, nothing of the sort he was dodging tax.

[ravenrover]

Nadhim Zahawi faces questions over source of £30m unsecured loans to wife’s property company
QUESTION Are we now entering the realms of criminal activity? Money laundering rules state you have to give the source of funds to buy property.

[mugnapper]

https://news.sky.com/story/boris-johnson-earns-nearly-1m-in-one-month-in-outside-earnings-bringing-his-total-since-2019-to-2-3m-12796180

Why did he need an £800k loan?

[Ldr]

Re Zahawi. Why would a man worth 'up to £100 million' (quote  Daily Express); bother with a job that pays him £100k a year? It's like King Charles getting a paper round.
Is it :-
A) An overwhelming desire to improve the living standards of all UK citizens or
B) Be in a position to influence decisions that will make himself and his kind, even richer?

You don’t get into politics at that level unless you are on the take would be my opinion

Absolute nonsense.

The vast majority of senior ministers on both sides, throughout recent history haven't been "on the take".

The problem is, so many basic standards have slipped in recent years (and I mean just the last few) that it's become normalised to think they are all crooks, spivs or liars.

They aren't. Most of them are decent, honest and hard working, even the ones I think are talentless.

It's this attitude that beds in the chance of chancers running the country. If people believe that all politicians are bent, what's the incentive for a politician to stay straight?

I want to believe politicians aren’t bent, I just find it impossible to do so

[BillyStubbsTears]

Why. There are loads of examples of ones who aren't. You are judging all of them by the worst examples.

There's absolutely no reason to think that Sunak is "bent". Similarly, Starmer.

Is Angela Rayner bent? Or Jeremy Hunt? Was Corbyn? Or Gordon Brown?

[danumdon]

Why. There are loads of examples of ones who aren't. You are judging all of them by the worst examples.

There's absolutely no reason to think that Sunak is "bent". Similarly, Starmer.

Is Angela Rayner bent? Or Jeremy Hunt? Was Corbyn? Or Gordon Brown?

So your now hanging your hat on the above quotes.

Do you think you can say the same about all named individuals in regard to them enabling and providing cover for "bent" MP's to prosper, subconsciously or not?

[BillyStubbsTears]

DD.

You know about bent MPs. Give us some examples then, outside the obvious ones that we are discussing.

[danumdon]

DD.

You know about bent MPs. Give us some examples then, outside the obvious ones that we are discussing.

So you can't or won't answer my question.

Telling.

[BillyStubbsTears]

DD

I haven't got the foggiest what your question means.

You apparently want me to give an opinion on something there is no evidence for.

What do you expect me to say?

[danumdon]

Answered absolutely as expected.

Now isn't that a surprise!

[BillyStubbsTears]

I'm genuinely baffled.

How am I supposed to answer the question you put? You want me to give an opinion on what goes on in the subconscious minds of people I've never met? And then you have a pop when I decline to answer?

Things have just got very surreal.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Sunak said at PMQs this week that no-one informed him that Zahawi had a problem with the tax office when Sunak gave him a Cabinet post in October.

Looks like he lied.

https://mobile.twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1619362257275879426

In normal times, a PM lying to the House is a resigning issue. But I wouldn't hold my breath.

[SydneyRover]

a rishi sunk

[ravenrover]

Gone!

[Donnywolf]

Hi risk anus .... finally gets tough

Whoooooo

Gove now saying he's strong and taken decisive action after an Independent Investigation ( yeah right )


He can't start Investigations unilaterally but has to wait to be asked by PM hi risk anus


As we have seen the PM can totally disagree with the findings or agree with them but as Johnson did   say we have had an apology and we are moving on


Very ding dang Independent eh

[Donnywolf]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/dec/22/sir-laurie-magnus-named-rishi-sunak-independent-adviser-ministers-interests

[BillyStubbsTears]

As ever, the Hogarth of our era gets it bang on the money.

https://twitter.com/coldwarsteve/status/1619649299846991873?s=20&t=QMiqiAkN4qB9EA2o--OWuA

The man is a genius.

[ravenrover]

I wonder who the 2nd MP is that HMRC are investigating?

[Filo]

After all this he is still entitled to be referred to as The Right Honourable

[roverstillidie91]

Surely  now is the time to call a general election to get shut of them and before they do anymore damage

[SydneyRover]

A tax cheat of this magnitude shouldn't be allowed be allowed to sit in parliament when there isn't enough money to pay track work supervisors enough money.

[roverstillidie91]

A tax cheat of this magnitude shouldn't be allowed be allowed to sit in parliament when there isn't enough money to pay track work supervisors enough money.

The Sun, Daily Mail or daily express, the right wing press will vilify rail workers (i am one myself) for wanting a pay rise and people get fixated with the pay it is also the conditions as well but it is fine to uncap bankers bonuses and it's alright for MP's to get a 28% pay rise over 13 years.

They also make you believe that there are less people commuting on trains. When looking at the trains now from where I work they look perfectly busy to me.

I went to a game with my nephew to see Sheffield United, with a rail card it was £7.20 return to Kirk Sandall so it is still a real cheap way of travelling compared to going in the car.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Very telling comment on R4 this morning by a Tory MP defending Sunak.

He said the inquiry had been the right thing to do "because it uncovered new evidence".

As far as I can see, the only new evidence brought to light is that Zahawi must have known before 15 July that he was under investigation, but insisted he didn't know that. Everything else was already in the public domain.

Why is this important?

Because it is inconceivable that Sunak was unaware of Zahawi's tax inquiry when he appointed him to the Cabinet in October. Which shows why Sunak couldn't sack Zahawi without the inquiry. How can you sack someone for something you knew about when you appointed him?

So Sunak needed the fig leaf of the standards inquiry to give him a cause to fire Zahawi.

At the very least, there's been a massive error of judgement by Sunak. Which is why Labour are going to hammer the point all week.

[SydneyRover]

''Integrity, Professionalism, Accountability'' LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXGr_r5n4V4

[ravenrover]

The "new evidence" which even surprised Dan Niedle? Was how long this had been dragging on for, didn't it all start in 2021? and Nadz had had several opportunities to record his "carelessness" which resulted in his several breaches of the Ministerial Code.

[ravenrover]

Ritchie now has a dilemma, who to appoint Party Chairman
Should it be Fiona Bruce or Laura Kuenssberg?


Curtesy Twitter

[Donnywolf]

Go back to Dowdy Dowden or hearten Zahawi by appointing 3 names Shapps

Even after that he rose to the heights of Tory Chairman so will make Zahawi thinking he too can look forward to it too

You couldn't make this stuff up

[ravenrover]

Don't worry says Braverman you'll get your new job in 6 days time, be patient like I was Oh and just say you're sorry like I did