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i_ateallthepies

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Re: We're a mid table League Two team
« Reply #30 on March 07, 2023, 05:15:58 pm by i_ateallthepies »
I think the mistakes began under Moore with the heavy reliance on loan signings which in itself may have been triggered by budget constraints.



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Re: We're a mid table League Two team
« Reply #31 on March 07, 2023, 05:29:24 pm by GazLaz »
I think the mistakes began under Moore with the heavy reliance on loan signings which in itself may have been triggered by budget constraints.

These bad strategies manifest from having no coherent player identification structure in place. Managers just resort to what they know. Moore with the loans and god squad, JS signing players that are represented by his agent etc. Our net is tiny in regards to fishing for players. It never goes more than a foot away from the boat.

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Re: We're a mid table League Two team
« Reply #32 on March 07, 2023, 06:19:08 pm by scawsby steve »
Oh not another 'aren't we hard done by' thread!

We ain't going to move on unless we leave this attitude behind and accept sh*t happens.  Would you have swapped places with Wrexham, Notts Co and plenty of others?

We're definitely a top of the moaning league! Anyone would think we're Sheff Wed fans, thinking we're superior to other clubs.
While I agree there are some who moan just for the sake of moaning I don’t think we should just accept that Sh*t happens.
The fact is we are financially stable off the field but the last 2 yrs + on the field have been anything but stable. We have been in free fall if we are going to be honest. 
I don’t think DBR it is unreasonable that our fan base questions what has gone wrong, that has ended up with us where we are right now.
In fact I would be concerned if the hard core fans were not questioning what has gone wrong.
The fact is we should be a top half League 1 club at a minimum with aspirations of being a Championship club.  That’s were we were in January 2021. Yes it is hard to believe.

I would like to think we have now bottomed out and now the only way is up.  But proof is in the pudding and
it is important we now have a positive end to the season. Even if if we do not make the play offs it is important we finish with some serious momentum.

Then in the summer we need to see some serious intent on getting promoted next season with some quality recruitment.



Why should we be a top end League One club?

We're League Two on merit and will only progress on merit. Getting creditable results at Stockport etc, are part of accepting where we are and celebrating it, rather than regurgitating all the reasons where it all went wrong after every performance when we lose or don't play champagne football.

I'd like to be happier, and clapping much more but I'm still getting my season ticket for next season because, I'm less likely to see some of our good young players continue to improve and see better players being added to what we've got, if I don't.

Whatever thoughts I have about the reasons we've got here, I can't change that. Copps, DS and the players get my support whether we're playing Harrogate or Hull. It's XI v XI.


We are seriously under achieving on the field but that doesn’t mean we should accept it.
There is absolutely no reason whatsoever why DRFC should not be a championship club.
If Rotherham can achieve it then we certainly can.
It is up to our board to show that is what they really aspire to achieving.
We were told 3 yrs ago that was the goal. We have seen very little over the last 2 yrs that suggests they really meant what they said.

Camps, the above excerpt from your post is very telling.
I have a friend who is currently playing in the National League who still sees Rovers as a big club in L2 and also as a top half L1 club. He tells me that plenty of people in the game have a similar opinion.
Like you and myself he is amazed at how far we have fallen over the last two years.
The saddest thing for me is that anyone who dares to talk about the slide in a negative way is seen to be a moaner.
I would imagine that most regular supporters understand that the club is in a good financial position and is happy about that but personally, I get the impression that the top brass at the club are blasé about the fan base to the extent that “they will still buy their Season Tickets” however far we slip.


Campsall/Hound, your remarks here perfectly describe how I and I am sure many other Rovers supporters feel about what has happened in the last three seasons and, whilst DBR usually makes well reasoned contributions on this forum his remarks in post 13 above are quite frankly insulting to a great many thoroughly good supporters. I suspect his thoughts closely mirror the attitude of those running the club.

The GB statement recently about the club achieving 'sustainability' (many on here question their definition of sustainability), puffing their chest out and glorying in that one sole positive was simply an example of how detatched the club leadership has become to what has happened on the football side in the last two years.

The vast majority of our supporters are mature and sensible enough to understand and support the efforts of the club in its desire to gain a solid financial footing but the club needs to wake up to the fact that that alone will not sustain it as an attractive club to support.

Brilliant post, Mr Pies.

les@donr

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Re: We're a mid table League Two team
« Reply #33 on March 07, 2023, 10:10:19 pm by les@donr »
Rovers being labeled an average L2 team is a tad optimistic at the moment.

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Re: We're a mid table League Two team
« Reply #34 on March 07, 2023, 10:23:50 pm by Prez »
The way its going we wont be for much longer.

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Re: We're a mid table League Two team
« Reply #35 on March 07, 2023, 10:55:05 pm by Donnyjim »
This season, thus far. It’s not finished yet and the rot will continue until May. Then next season we’ll be a ‘struggling to stay in the football league team’. A sinking ship then gathers speed and continues downwards. Just look at our M180 comrades? I think the club is well and truly daffy ducked.

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« Reply #36 on March 07, 2023, 11:04:00 pm by Branton Red »
This season to date overall we're a mid table League 2 team.

But we got 13 points in our first 5 fixtures.

Since then we've achieved 34 points in 29 games.

And the performance are getting continually worse.

We've just been beaten and comprehensively outplayed at home by a team which started today in 21st place.

Time to face reality.

We're not a mid table League 2 quality team.

We're a close to bottom of League 2 quality team.

I'm hugely concerned for next season.

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« Reply #37 on March 07, 2023, 11:14:46 pm by normal rules »
This season to date overall we're a mid table League 2 team.

But we got 13 points in our first 5 fixtures.

Since then we've achieved 34 points in 29 games.

And the performance are getting continually worse.

We've just been beaten and comprehensively outplayed at home by a team which started today in 21st place.

Time to face reality.

We're not a mid table League 2 quality team.

We're a close to bottom of League 2 quality team.

I'm hugely concerned for next season.

I too share this concern. Any talk of summer recruitment making a massive difference for next season is delusional. This summers recruitment will look no different to the recent window. A few no mark signings and a few more loanees courtesy of Schofields agent. If he lasts that long.
Sugar coated cheap shit.
Next season will be built on the foundations of the end of this season. And that’s not panning out to be a solid one. Far from it.
All in all, we have a lot to be worried about.

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Re: We're a mid table League Two team
« Reply #38 on March 07, 2023, 11:21:30 pm by StocksArmy »
What is keeping the owners hanging around when the majority of the fans clearly dont want them?
« Last Edit: March 07, 2023, 11:26:18 pm by StocksArmy »

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Re: We're a mid table League Two team
« Reply #39 on March 07, 2023, 11:27:26 pm by Canadian Rover »
What is keeping the owners hanging around when the majority of the fans ckearly dont want them?

Doesn't really matter does it? They own the club a bit like owning a house that you know you have enough income to pay the mortgage but you don't see the reasoning in spending anything to maintain the house. I mean forget actually making improvements to the house. And these owners... Well apparently they don't give a shit about the state of the kitchen, the bathroom leaking and forget the garden for Christs sake... You have a house. Be thankful for it (and don't dare complain about the damp)

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Re: We're a mid table League Two team
« Reply #40 on March 08, 2023, 01:09:37 am by les@donr »
Our current form has to be amongst the worse in the league,

Not Now Kato

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Re: We're a mid table League Two team
« Reply #41 on March 09, 2023, 12:34:36 pm by Not Now Kato »
What is keeping the owners hanging around when the majority of the fans clearly dont want them?

Good question.
 
If I were TB and read all the bile against the board on here and in social media I'd be saying "I don't need this sh!t, you want it?  Here it is, all yours; good luck and good bye".
 
Which prompts another question.  Where would the club be then?

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Re: We're a mid table League Two team
« Reply #42 on March 09, 2023, 01:10:29 pm by DonnyBazR0ver »
What is keeping the owners hanging around when the majority of the fans clearly dont want them?

Good question.
 
If I were TB and read all the bile against the board on here and in social media I'd be saying "I don't need this sh!t, you want it?  Here it is, all yours; good luck and good bye".
 
Which prompts another question.  Where would the club be then?

Administration?

Not Now Kato

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Re: We're a mid table League Two team
« Reply #43 on March 09, 2023, 01:19:44 pm by Not Now Kato »
What is keeping the owners hanging around when the majority of the fans clearly dont want them?

Good question.
 
If I were TB and read all the bile against the board on here and in social media I'd be saying "I don't need this sh!t, you want it?  Here it is, all yours; good luck and good bye".
 
Which prompts another question.  Where would the club be then?

Administration?

Most likely.  Which I why I fail to understand the mentality of those supporters who can't see it!
 
Unless and until a multi billionaire come out of the woodwork we have what we have and need to support it, through thick and thin.
 
Yes, we should openly criticise what we obviously see as filing - and that is all on the pitch - but those criticisms should be constructive, not destructive; and hope that the club, (DS in particular), listen and act.

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Re: We're a mid table League Two team
« Reply #44 on March 09, 2023, 01:39:19 pm by Campsall rover »
What is keeping the owners hanging around when the majority of the fans clearly dont want them?

Good question.
 
If I were TB and read all the bile against the board on here and in social media I'd be saying "I don't need this sh!t, you want it?  Here it is, all yours; good luck and good bye".
 
Which prompts another question.  Where would the club be then?

Administration?
There are some that don’t understand that.  ;)

I am far from happy with the way the football team is playing and the results show how far we have underachieved so far this season. This group of players are capable of doing much better.
The problem is 90% the coach / manager imo who is not getting the best from them. His ridiculous “process”  mantra which clearly isn’t working. If he can’t see that his way of playing with this group of players isn’t going to give us goals.  Then he is either unbelievably stubborn or stupid or both.
He needs an experienced assistant imo. Nothing against Gribble but he is not what Schofield needs imo.

DS needs a long hard look in the mirror and get a grip, smell the coffee and see the reality.of his flawed tactics. The results and goals scored are all the evidence he needs.
We can’t go through yet another change in manager this summer.. Further instability is going to destroy progress.
Rant over.

Back to the OP & reference the board. Some people seriously need to be careful what they wish for.


« Last Edit: March 09, 2023, 01:41:50 pm by Campsall rover »

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Re: We're a mid table League Two team
« Reply #45 on March 09, 2023, 03:53:15 pm by drfchound »
What is keeping the owners hanging around when the majority of the fans clearly dont want them?

Good question.
 
If I were TB and read all the bile against the board on here and in social media I'd be saying "I don't need this sh!t, you want it?  Here it is, all yours; good luck and good bye".
 
Which prompts another question.  Where would the club be then?

Administration?

Most likely.  Which I why I fail to understand the mentality of those supporters who can't see it!
 
Unless and until a multi billionaire come out of the woodwork we have what we have and need to support it, through thick and thin.
 
Yes, we should openly criticise what we obviously see as filing - and that is all on the pitch - but those criticisms should be constructive, not destructive; and hope that the club, (DS in particular), listen and act.

I’m sure a multi millionaire would be acceptable NNK.
Multi billionaires are a bit harder to find.

Not Now Kato

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Re: We're a mid table League Two team
« Reply #46 on March 09, 2023, 04:05:35 pm by Not Now Kato »
What is keeping the owners hanging around when the majority of the fans clearly dont want them?

Good question.
 
If I were TB and read all the bile against the board on here and in social media I'd be saying "I don't need this sh!t, you want it?  Here it is, all yours; good luck and good bye".
 
Which prompts another question.  Where would the club be then?

Administration?

Most likely.  Which I why I fail to understand the mentality of those supporters who can't see it!
 
Unless and until a multi billionaire come out of the woodwork we have what we have and need to support it, through thick and thin.
 
Yes, we should openly criticise what we obviously see as filing - and that is all on the pitch - but those criticisms should be constructive, not destructive; and hope that the club, (DS in particular), listen and act.

I’m sure a multi millionaire would be acceptable NNK.
Multi billionaires are a bit harder to find.

I seriously doubt a multimillionaire would do any better than TB who is, after all, a multimillionaire, (IIRC not far shy of a billionaire when he joined the Rovers board).
 

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Re: We're a mid table League Two team
« Reply #47 on March 09, 2023, 04:08:38 pm by EasyforDennis »
What is keeping the owners hanging around when the majority of the fans clearly dont want them?

Good question.
 
If I were TB and read all the bile against the board on here and in social media I'd be saying "I don't need this sh!t, you want it?  Here it is, all yours; good luck and good bye".
 
Which prompts another question.  Where would the club be then?

Administration?

Most likely.  Which I why I fail to understand the mentality of those supporters who can't see it!
 
Unless and until a multi billionaire come out of the woodwork we have what we have and need to support it, through thick and thin.
 
Yes, we should openly criticise what we obviously see as filing - and that is all on the pitch - but those criticisms should be constructive, not destructive; and hope that the club, (DS in particular), listen and act.

I’m sure a multi millionaire would be acceptable NNK.
Multi billionaires are a bit harder to find.

I seriously doubt a multimillionaire would do any better than TB who is, after all, a multimillionaire, (IIRC not far shy of a billionaire when he joined the Rovers board).

Nowhere close to being a billionaire.

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Re: We're a mid table League Two team
« Reply #48 on March 09, 2023, 04:11:46 pm by Not Now Kato »
What is keeping the owners hanging around when the majority of the fans clearly dont want them?

Good question.
 
If I were TB and read all the bile against the board on here and in social media I'd be saying "I don't need this sh!t, you want it?  Here it is, all yours; good luck and good bye".
 
Which prompts another question.  Where would the club be then?

Administration?

Most likely.  Which I why I fail to understand the mentality of those supporters who can't see it!
 
Unless and until a multi billionaire come out of the woodwork we have what we have and need to support it, through thick and thin.
 
Yes, we should openly criticise what we obviously see as filing - and that is all on the pitch - but those criticisms should be constructive, not destructive; and hope that the club, (DS in particular), listen and act.

I’m sure a multi millionaire would be acceptable NNK.
Multi billionaires are a bit harder to find.

I seriously doubt a multimillionaire would do any better than TB who is, after all, a multimillionaire, (IIRC not far shy of a billionaire when he joined the Rovers board).

Nowhere close to being a billionaire.

Really? How many millions then, as you clearly claim know?

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Re: We're a mid table League Two team
« Reply #49 on March 09, 2023, 04:14:41 pm by EasyforDennis »
What is keeping the owners hanging around when the majority of the fans clearly dont want them?

Good question.
 
If I were TB and read all the bile against the board on here and in social media I'd be saying "I don't need this sh!t, you want it?  Here it is, all yours; good luck and good bye".
 
Which prompts another question.  Where would the club be then?

Administration?

Most likely.  Which I why I fail to understand the mentality of those supporters who can't see it!
 
Unless and until a multi billionaire come out of the woodwork we have what we have and need to support it, through thick and thin.
 
Yes, we should openly criticise what we obviously see as filing - and that is all on the pitch - but those criticisms should be constructive, not destructive; and hope that the club, (DS in particular), listen and act.

I’m sure a multi millionaire would be acceptable NNK.
Multi billionaires are a bit harder to find.

I seriously doubt a multimillionaire would do any better than TB who is, after all, a multimillionaire, (IIRC not far shy of a billionaire when he joined the Rovers board).

Nowhere close to being a billionaire.

Really? How many millions then, as you clearly claim know?

I believe it was quoted as £425k in the Sunday Times rich list.

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« Reply #50 on March 09, 2023, 04:26:57 pm by drfchound »
What is keeping the owners hanging around when the majority of the fans clearly dont want them?

Good question.
 
If I were TB and read all the bile against the board on here and in social media I'd be saying "I don't need this sh!t, you want it?  Here it is, all yours; good luck and good bye".
 
Which prompts another question.  Where would the club be then?

Administration?

Most likely.  Which I why I fail to understand the mentality of those supporters who can't see it!
 
Unless and until a multi billionaire come out of the woodwork we have what we have and need to support it, through thick and thin.
 
Yes, we should openly criticise what we obviously see as filing - and that is all on the pitch - but those criticisms should be constructive, not destructive; and hope that the club, (DS in particular), listen and act.

I’m sure a multi millionaire would be acceptable NNK.
Multi billionaires are a bit harder to find.

I seriously doubt a multimillionaire would do any better than TB who is, after all, a multimillionaire, (IIRC not far shy of a billionaire when he joined the Rovers board).

A multimillionaire who had an interest in progressing the football club would probably do better.
If (a big If) I was as wealthy as TB together with my love of the Rovers, I would have no issue with spending a couple of million quid a year to give a suitable manager a decent chance of putting a good exciting team together.  Money attracts money so there is a fair chance of recouping my losses with interest and property and acquisition gains each year and to be honest, out of £500m a couple of million a year is small fry.

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Re: We're a mid table League Two team
« Reply #51 on March 09, 2023, 04:32:33 pm by Not Now Kato »
What is keeping the owners hanging around when the majority of the fans clearly dont want them?

Good question.
 
If I were TB and read all the bile against the board on here and in social media I'd be saying "I don't need this sh!t, you want it?  Here it is, all yours; good luck and good bye".
 
Which prompts another question.  Where would the club be then?

Administration?

Most likely.  Which I why I fail to understand the mentality of those supporters who can't see it!
 
Unless and until a multi billionaire come out of the woodwork we have what we have and need to support it, through thick and thin.
 
Yes, we should openly criticise what we obviously see as filing - and that is all on the pitch - but those criticisms should be constructive, not destructive; and hope that the club, (DS in particular), listen and act.

I’m sure a multi millionaire would be acceptable NNK.
Multi billionaires are a bit harder to find.

I seriously doubt a multimillionaire would do any better than TB who is, after all, a multimillionaire, (IIRC not far shy of a billionaire when he joined the Rovers board).

Nowhere close to being a billionaire.

Really? How many millions then, as you clearly claim know?

I believe it was quoted as £425k in the Sunday Times rich list.

£425k?    Try £563M with Dick getting £142M
 
Keepmoat was sold for £783M which is where I, from memory, got my 'just shy of'.
 
http://www.terrybramall.crazybillionaire.org/terrybramall.php

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« Reply #52 on March 09, 2023, 04:40:50 pm by Not Now Kato »
What is keeping the owners hanging around when the majority of the fans clearly dont want them?

Good question.
 
If I were TB and read all the bile against the board on here and in social media I'd be saying "I don't need this sh!t, you want it?  Here it is, all yours; good luck and good bye".
 
Which prompts another question.  Where would the club be then?

Administration?

Most likely.  Which I why I fail to understand the mentality of those supporters who can't see it!
 
Unless and until a multi billionaire come out of the woodwork we have what we have and need to support it, through thick and thin.
 
Yes, we should openly criticise what we obviously see as filing - and that is all on the pitch - but those criticisms should be constructive, not destructive; and hope that the club, (DS in particular), listen and act.

I’m sure a multi millionaire would be acceptable NNK.
Multi billionaires are a bit harder to find.

I seriously doubt a multimillionaire would do any better than TB who is, after all, a multimillionaire, (IIRC not far shy of a billionaire when he joined the Rovers board).

A multimillionaire who had an interest in progressing the football club would probably do better.
If (a big If) I was as wealthy as TB together with my love of the Rovers, I would have no issue with spending a couple of million quid a year to give a suitable manager a decent chance of putting a good exciting team together.  Money attracts money so there is a fair chance of recouping my losses with interest and property and acquisition gains each year and to be honest, out of £500m a couple of million a year is small fry.

In which case it shouldn't be too hard to find someone as wealthy as TB willing to throw money into Doncaster Rovers.  Know anybody?  Because I don't see anyone from the sidelines shouting "Me, Me, Me"!
 
You seem rather keen to tell someone you don't know how to spend their money for your enjoyment, perhaps you should look to where else TB puts some of his money.

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« Reply #53 on March 09, 2023, 04:45:49 pm by drfchound »
What is keeping the owners hanging around when the majority of the fans clearly dont want them?

Good question.
 
If I were TB and read all the bile against the board on here and in social media I'd be saying "I don't need this sh!t, you want it?  Here it is, all yours; good luck and good bye".
 
Which prompts another question.  Where would the club be then?

Administration?

Most likely.  Which I why I fail to understand the mentality of those supporters who can't see it!
 
Unless and until a multi billionaire come out of the woodwork we have what we have and need to support it, through thick and thin.
 
Yes, we should openly criticise what we obviously see as filing - and that is all on the pitch - but those criticisms should be constructive, not destructive; and hope that the club, (DS in particular), listen and act.

I’m sure a multi millionaire would be acceptable NNK.
Multi billionaires are a bit harder to find.

I seriously doubt a multimillionaire would do any better than TB who is, after all, a multimillionaire, (IIRC not far shy of a billionaire when he joined the Rovers board).

A multimillionaire who had an interest in progressing the football club would probably do better.
If (a big If) I was as wealthy as TB together with my love of the Rovers, I would have no issue with spending a couple of million quid a year to give a suitable manager a decent chance of putting a good exciting team together.  Money attracts money so there is a fair chance of recouping my losses with interest and property and acquisition gains each year and to be honest, out of £500m a couple of million a year is small fry.

In which case it shouldn't be too hard to find someone as wealthy as TB willing to throw money into Doncaster Rovers.  Know anybody?  Because I don't see anyone from the sidelines shouting "Me, Me, Me"!
 
You seem rather keen to tell someone you don't know how to spend their money for your enjoyment, perhaps you should look to where else TB puts some of his money.

Kato, you are not reading what I wrote.
I was saying what I would do, not telling TB what he should do.
And, actually I do know TB, I have played tennis with him and been on foreign trips with him.
As for do I know anyone who might want to buy the Rovers, no is the answer.
At the start of my post I said a multimillionaire who is interested in the Rovers might do better.
« Last Edit: March 09, 2023, 04:50:20 pm by drfchound »

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Re: We're a mid table League Two team
« Reply #54 on March 09, 2023, 04:56:03 pm by Not Now Kato »
What is keeping the owners hanging around when the majority of the fans clearly dont want them?

Good question.
 
If I were TB and read all the bile against the board on here and in social media I'd be saying "I don't need this sh!t, you want it?  Here it is, all yours; good luck and good bye".
 
Which prompts another question.  Where would the club be then?

Administration?

Most likely.  Which I why I fail to understand the mentality of those supporters who can't see it!
 
Unless and until a multi billionaire come out of the woodwork we have what we have and need to support it, through thick and thin.
 
Yes, we should openly criticise what we obviously see as filing - and that is all on the pitch - but those criticisms should be constructive, not destructive; and hope that the club, (DS in particular), listen and act.

I’m sure a multi millionaire would be acceptable NNK.
Multi billionaires are a bit harder to find.

I seriously doubt a multimillionaire would do any better than TB who is, after all, a multimillionaire, (IIRC not far shy of a billionaire when he joined the Rovers board).

A multimillionaire who had an interest in progressing the football club would probably do better.
If (a big If) I was as wealthy as TB together with my love of the Rovers, I would have no issue with spending a couple of million quid a year to give a suitable manager a decent chance of putting a good exciting team together.  Money attracts money so there is a fair chance of recouping my losses with interest and property and acquisition gains each year and to be honest, out of £500m a couple of million a year is small fry.

In which case it shouldn't be too hard to find someone as wealthy as TB willing to throw money into Doncaster Rovers.  Know anybody?  Because I don't see anyone from the sidelines shouting "Me, Me, Me"!
 
You seem rather keen to tell someone you don't know how to spend their money for your enjoyment, perhaps you should look to where else TB puts some of his money.

Kato, you are not reading what I wrote.
I was saying what I would do, not telling TB what he should do.
And, actually I do know TB, I have played tennis with him and been on foreign trips with him.
As for do I know anyone who might want to buy the Rovers, no is the answer.
At the start of my post I said a multimillionaire who is interested in the Rovers might do better.

And I still contend, per my earlier post, that it will take significantly more than a multimillionaire to make an ongoing difference. Putting money into a football club at our level, (and at any level outside the Prem), is tantamount to giving money away. There aren’t many philanthropists like TB around, sadly.

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« Reply #55 on March 09, 2023, 06:47:11 pm by Alan Southstand »
I thought TB wasn’t putting anymore money in, as we’re sustainable?

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Re: We're a mid table League Two team
« Reply #56 on March 09, 2023, 07:34:03 pm by drfchound »
What is keeping the owners hanging around when the majority of the fans clearly dont want them?

Good question.
 
If I were TB and read all the bile against the board on here and in social media I'd be saying "I don't need this sh!t, you want it?  Here it is, all yours; good luck and good bye".
 
Which prompts another question.  Where would the club be then?

Administration?

Most likely.  Which I why I fail to understand the mentality of those supporters who can't see it!
 
Unless and until a multi billionaire come out of the woodwork we have what we have and need to support it, through thick and thin.
 
Yes, we should openly criticise what we obviously see as filing - and that is all on the pitch - but those criticisms should be constructive, not destructive; and hope that the club, (DS in particular), listen and act.

I’m sure a multi millionaire would be acceptable NNK.
Multi billionaires are a bit harder to find.

I seriously doubt a multimillionaire would do any better than TB who is, after all, a multimillionaire, (IIRC not far shy of a billionaire when he joined the Rovers board).

A multimillionaire who had an interest in progressing the football club would probably do better.
If (a big If) I was as wealthy as TB together with my love of the Rovers, I would have no issue with spending a couple of million quid a year to give a suitable manager a decent chance of putting a good exciting team together.  Money attracts money so there is a fair chance of recouping my losses with interest and property and acquisition gains each year and to be honest, out of £500m a couple of million a year is small fry.

In which case it shouldn't be too hard to find someone as wealthy as TB willing to throw money into Doncaster Rovers.  Know anybody?  Because I don't see anyone from the sidelines shouting "Me, Me, Me"!
 
You seem rather keen to tell someone you don't know how to spend their money for your enjoyment, perhaps you should look to where else TB puts some of his money.

Kato, you are not reading what I wrote.
I was saying what I would do, not telling TB what he should do.
And, actually I do know TB, I have played tennis with him and been on foreign trips with him.
As for do I know anyone who might want to buy the Rovers, no is the answer.
At the start of my post I said a multimillionaire who is interested in the Rovers might do better.

And I still contend, per my earlier post, that it will take significantly more than a multimillionaire to make an ongoing difference. Putting money into a football club at our level, (and at any level outside the Prem), is tantamount to giving money away. There aren’t many philanthropists like TB around, sadly.

Kato, I assume that anyone who takes on the Rovers in the future would probably be also taking on Club Doncaster.
If that was you and you had £500m to your name would you think you could afford to add a couple of million pounds a year in addition to the self subsidising money that CD contributes to try to make the football more entertaining, draw back the fan base and try for promotion?
Given that you would already have your big houses and cars it would take a long time to spend £500m, and don’t forget that your pot would naturally grow every year as well.

EasyforDennis

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Re: We're a mid table League Two team
« Reply #57 on March 09, 2023, 07:47:12 pm by EasyforDennis »
What is keeping the owners hanging around when the majority of the fans clearly dont want them?

Good question.
 
If I were TB and read all the bile against the board on here and in social media I'd be saying "I don't need this sh!t, you want it?  Here it is, all yours; good luck and good bye".
 
Which prompts another question.  Where would the club be then?

Administration?

Most likely.  Which I why I fail to understand the mentality of those supporters who can't see it!
 
Unless and until a multi billionaire come out of the woodwork we have what we have and need to support it, through thick and thin.
 
Yes, we should openly criticise what we obviously see as filing - and that is all on the pitch - but those criticisms should be constructive, not destructive; and hope that the club, (DS in particular), listen and act.

I’m sure a multi millionaire would be acceptable NNK.
Multi billionaires are a bit harder to find.

I seriously doubt a multimillionaire would do any better than TB who is, after all, a multimillionaire, (IIRC not far shy of a billionaire when he joined the Rovers board).

A multimillionaire who had an interest in progressing the football club would probably do better.
If (a big If) I was as wealthy as TB together with my love of the Rovers, I would have no issue with spending a couple of million quid a year to give a suitable manager a decent chance of putting a good exciting team together.  Money attracts money so there is a fair chance of recouping my losses with interest and property and acquisition gains each year and to be honest, out of £500m a couple of million a year is small fry.

In which case it shouldn't be too hard to find someone as wealthy as TB willing to throw money into Doncaster Rovers.  Know anybody?  Because I don't see anyone from the sidelines shouting "Me, Me, Me"!
 
You seem rather keen to tell someone you don't know how to spend their money for your enjoyment, perhaps you should look to where else TB puts some of his money.

Kato, you are not reading what I wrote.
I was saying what I would do, not telling TB what he should do.
And, actually I do know TB, I have played tennis with him and been on foreign trips with him.
As for do I know anyone who might want to buy the Rovers, no is the answer.
At the start of my post I said a multimillionaire who is interested in the Rovers might do better.

And I still contend, per my earlier post, that it will take significantly more than a multimillionaire to make an ongoing difference. Putting money into a football club at our level, (and at any level outside the Prem), is tantamount to giving money away. There aren’t many philanthropists like TB around, sadly.

Kato, I assume that anyone who takes on the Rovers in the future would probably be also taking on Club Doncaster.
If that was you and you had £500m to your name would you think you could afford to add a couple of million pounds a year in addition to the self subsidising money that CD contributes to try to make the football more entertaining, draw back the fan base and try for promotion?
Given that you would already have your big houses and cars it would take a long time to spend £500m, and don’t forget that your pot would naturally grow every year as well.

If you are worth £500m then if invested properly you would certainly be earning more than £2m on it each year.

drfchound

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Re: We're a mid table League Two team
« Reply #58 on March 09, 2023, 08:48:31 pm by drfchound »
What is keeping the owners hanging around when the majority of the fans clearly dont want them?

Good question.
 
If I were TB and read all the bile against the board on here and in social media I'd be saying "I don't need this sh!t, you want it?  Here it is, all yours; good luck and good bye".
 
Which prompts another question.  Where would the club be then?

Administration?

Most likely.  Which I why I fail to understand the mentality of those supporters who can't see it!
 
Unless and until a multi billionaire come out of the woodwork we have what we have and need to support it, through thick and thin.
 
Yes, we should openly criticise what we obviously see as filing - and that is all on the pitch - but those criticisms should be constructive, not destructive; and hope that the club, (DS in particular), listen and act.

I’m sure a multi millionaire would be acceptable NNK.
Multi billionaires are a bit harder to find.

I seriously doubt a multimillionaire would do any better than TB who is, after all, a multimillionaire, (IIRC not far shy of a billionaire when he joined the Rovers board).

A multimillionaire who had an interest in progressing the football club would probably do better.
If (a big If) I was as wealthy as TB together with my love of the Rovers, I would have no issue with spending a couple of million quid a year to give a suitable manager a decent chance of putting a good exciting team together.  Money attracts money so there is a fair chance of recouping my losses with interest and property and acquisition gains each year and to be honest, out of £500m a couple of million a year is small fry.

In which case it shouldn't be too hard to find someone as wealthy as TB willing to throw money into Doncaster Rovers.  Know anybody?  Because I don't see anyone from the sidelines shouting "Me, Me, Me"!
 
You seem rather keen to tell someone you don't know how to spend their money for your enjoyment, perhaps you should look to where else TB puts some of his money.

Kato, you are not reading what I wrote.
I was saying what I would do, not telling TB what he should do.
And, actually I do know TB, I have played tennis with him and been on foreign trips with him.
As for do I know anyone who might want to buy the Rovers, no is the answer.
At the start of my post I said a multimillionaire who is interested in the Rovers might do better.

And I still contend, per my earlier post, that it will take significantly more than a multimillionaire to make an ongoing difference. Putting money into a football club at our level, (and at any level outside the Prem), is tantamount to giving money away. There aren’t many philanthropists like TB around, sadly.

Kato, I assume that anyone who takes on the Rovers in the future would probably be also taking on Club Doncaster.
If that was you and you had £500m to your name would you think you could afford to add a couple of million pounds a year in addition to the self subsidising money that CD contributes to try to make the football more entertaining, draw back the fan base and try for promotion?
Given that you would already have your big houses and cars it would take a long time to spend £500m, and don’t forget that your pot would naturally grow every year as well.

If you are worth £500m then if invested properly you would certainly be earning more than £2m on it each year.

Exactly my point mate.
You would probably never spend your money.

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Re: We're a mid table League Two team
« Reply #59 on March 09, 2023, 10:36:39 pm by sedwardsdrfc »
I’m not a board basher but increasingly can’t help but question them. It’s jarring that the people who want them out just because are starting to look right!

I know there are bad owners out there and I trust our owners to avoid them and I’m grateful for that. The reality is that all the other clubs have owners and many change hands every year. Most don’t sell to madmen they sell to enthusiasts and fans who have done well for themselves and want to spend to enjoy a rollercoaster as well as the prestige.

If the club is break even we should be an exciting prospect to buy. Every penny the new owners invest gets to go on the exciting things like players. We’ve reached a low level now meaning your money goes further too.

I don’t want TB to sell to any random but I do want him to sell so someone can breath some life and passion into the club. We’ll slowly dwindle at this rate and clearly the decision making has become very suspect. At least announce we are looking for a buying. Even if it takes years to find one. We need hope.

TB could sell up now with his head held high he’s got the club to a stable footing (financially if not footballing) and been a huge part of our best years. The longer it’s left the more people like me who recognise what he’s done start to get disgruntled at our lack of ambition or even hope in the club. Eventually the owners can’t escape that change if they just stick with the status quo.

 

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