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I think the mistakes began under Moore with the heavy reliance on loan signings which in itself may have been triggered by budget constraints.
Quote from: drfchound on March 06, 2023, 09:49:49 pmQuote from: Campsall rover on March 06, 2023, 09:01:07 pmQuote from: DonnyBazR0ver on March 06, 2023, 03:17:19 pmQuote from: Campsall rover on March 06, 2023, 12:19:22 pmQuote from: DonnyBazR0ver on March 06, 2023, 09:07:58 amOh not another 'aren't we hard done by' thread! We ain't going to move on unless we leave this attitude behind and accept sh*t happens. Would you have swapped places with Wrexham, Notts Co and plenty of others?We're definitely a top of the moaning league! Anyone would think we're Sheff Wed fans, thinking we're superior to other clubs.While I agree there are some who moan just for the sake of moaning I don’t think we should just accept that Sh*t happens. The fact is we are financially stable off the field but the last 2 yrs + on the field have been anything but stable. We have been in free fall if we are going to be honest. I don’t think DBR it is unreasonable that our fan base questions what has gone wrong, that has ended up with us where we are right now. In fact I would be concerned if the hard core fans were not questioning what has gone wrong. The fact is we should be a top half League 1 club at a minimum with aspirations of being a Championship club. That’s were we were in January 2021. Yes it is hard to believe. I would like to think we have now bottomed out and now the only way is up. But proof is in the pudding and it is important we now have a positive end to the season. Even if if we do not make the play offs it is important we finish with some serious momentum. Then in the summer we need to see some serious intent on getting promoted next season with some quality recruitment. Why should we be a top end League One club? We're League Two on merit and will only progress on merit. Getting creditable results at Stockport etc, are part of accepting where we are and celebrating it, rather than regurgitating all the reasons where it all went wrong after every performance when we lose or don't play champagne football. I'd like to be happier, and clapping much more but I'm still getting my season ticket for next season because, I'm less likely to see some of our good young players continue to improve and see better players being added to what we've got, if I don't. Whatever thoughts I have about the reasons we've got here, I can't change that. Copps, DS and the players get my support whether we're playing Harrogate or Hull. It's XI v XI. We are seriously under achieving on the field but that doesn’t mean we should accept it. There is absolutely no reason whatsoever why DRFC should not be a championship club. If Rotherham can achieve it then we certainly can. It is up to our board to show that is what they really aspire to achieving. We were told 3 yrs ago that was the goal. We have seen very little over the last 2 yrs that suggests they really meant what they said.Camps, the above excerpt from your post is very telling.I have a friend who is currently playing in the National League who still sees Rovers as a big club in L2 and also as a top half L1 club. He tells me that plenty of people in the game have a similar opinion.Like you and myself he is amazed at how far we have fallen over the last two years.The saddest thing for me is that anyone who dares to talk about the slide in a negative way is seen to be a moaner.I would imagine that most regular supporters understand that the club is in a good financial position and is happy about that but personally, I get the impression that the top brass at the club are blasé about the fan base to the extent that “they will still buy their Season Tickets” however far we slip.Campsall/Hound, your remarks here perfectly describe how I and I am sure many other Rovers supporters feel about what has happened in the last three seasons and, whilst DBR usually makes well reasoned contributions on this forum his remarks in post 13 above are quite frankly insulting to a great many thoroughly good supporters. I suspect his thoughts closely mirror the attitude of those running the club.The GB statement recently about the club achieving 'sustainability' (many on here question their definition of sustainability), puffing their chest out and glorying in that one sole positive was simply an example of how detatched the club leadership has become to what has happened on the football side in the last two years.The vast majority of our supporters are mature and sensible enough to understand and support the efforts of the club in its desire to gain a solid financial footing but the club needs to wake up to the fact that that alone will not sustain it as an attractive club to support.
Quote from: Campsall rover on March 06, 2023, 09:01:07 pmQuote from: DonnyBazR0ver on March 06, 2023, 03:17:19 pmQuote from: Campsall rover on March 06, 2023, 12:19:22 pmQuote from: DonnyBazR0ver on March 06, 2023, 09:07:58 amOh not another 'aren't we hard done by' thread! We ain't going to move on unless we leave this attitude behind and accept sh*t happens. Would you have swapped places with Wrexham, Notts Co and plenty of others?We're definitely a top of the moaning league! Anyone would think we're Sheff Wed fans, thinking we're superior to other clubs.While I agree there are some who moan just for the sake of moaning I don’t think we should just accept that Sh*t happens. The fact is we are financially stable off the field but the last 2 yrs + on the field have been anything but stable. We have been in free fall if we are going to be honest. I don’t think DBR it is unreasonable that our fan base questions what has gone wrong, that has ended up with us where we are right now. In fact I would be concerned if the hard core fans were not questioning what has gone wrong. The fact is we should be a top half League 1 club at a minimum with aspirations of being a Championship club. That’s were we were in January 2021. Yes it is hard to believe. I would like to think we have now bottomed out and now the only way is up. But proof is in the pudding and it is important we now have a positive end to the season. Even if if we do not make the play offs it is important we finish with some serious momentum. Then in the summer we need to see some serious intent on getting promoted next season with some quality recruitment. Why should we be a top end League One club? We're League Two on merit and will only progress on merit. Getting creditable results at Stockport etc, are part of accepting where we are and celebrating it, rather than regurgitating all the reasons where it all went wrong after every performance when we lose or don't play champagne football. I'd like to be happier, and clapping much more but I'm still getting my season ticket for next season because, I'm less likely to see some of our good young players continue to improve and see better players being added to what we've got, if I don't. Whatever thoughts I have about the reasons we've got here, I can't change that. Copps, DS and the players get my support whether we're playing Harrogate or Hull. It's XI v XI. We are seriously under achieving on the field but that doesn’t mean we should accept it. There is absolutely no reason whatsoever why DRFC should not be a championship club. If Rotherham can achieve it then we certainly can. It is up to our board to show that is what they really aspire to achieving. We were told 3 yrs ago that was the goal. We have seen very little over the last 2 yrs that suggests they really meant what they said.Camps, the above excerpt from your post is very telling.I have a friend who is currently playing in the National League who still sees Rovers as a big club in L2 and also as a top half L1 club. He tells me that plenty of people in the game have a similar opinion.Like you and myself he is amazed at how far we have fallen over the last two years.The saddest thing for me is that anyone who dares to talk about the slide in a negative way is seen to be a moaner.I would imagine that most regular supporters understand that the club is in a good financial position and is happy about that but personally, I get the impression that the top brass at the club are blasé about the fan base to the extent that “they will still buy their Season Tickets” however far we slip.
Quote from: DonnyBazR0ver on March 06, 2023, 03:17:19 pmQuote from: Campsall rover on March 06, 2023, 12:19:22 pmQuote from: DonnyBazR0ver on March 06, 2023, 09:07:58 amOh not another 'aren't we hard done by' thread! We ain't going to move on unless we leave this attitude behind and accept sh*t happens. Would you have swapped places with Wrexham, Notts Co and plenty of others?We're definitely a top of the moaning league! Anyone would think we're Sheff Wed fans, thinking we're superior to other clubs.While I agree there are some who moan just for the sake of moaning I don’t think we should just accept that Sh*t happens. The fact is we are financially stable off the field but the last 2 yrs + on the field have been anything but stable. We have been in free fall if we are going to be honest. I don’t think DBR it is unreasonable that our fan base questions what has gone wrong, that has ended up with us where we are right now. In fact I would be concerned if the hard core fans were not questioning what has gone wrong. The fact is we should be a top half League 1 club at a minimum with aspirations of being a Championship club. That’s were we were in January 2021. Yes it is hard to believe. I would like to think we have now bottomed out and now the only way is up. But proof is in the pudding and it is important we now have a positive end to the season. Even if if we do not make the play offs it is important we finish with some serious momentum. Then in the summer we need to see some serious intent on getting promoted next season with some quality recruitment. Why should we be a top end League One club? We're League Two on merit and will only progress on merit. Getting creditable results at Stockport etc, are part of accepting where we are and celebrating it, rather than regurgitating all the reasons where it all went wrong after every performance when we lose or don't play champagne football. I'd like to be happier, and clapping much more but I'm still getting my season ticket for next season because, I'm less likely to see some of our good young players continue to improve and see better players being added to what we've got, if I don't. Whatever thoughts I have about the reasons we've got here, I can't change that. Copps, DS and the players get my support whether we're playing Harrogate or Hull. It's XI v XI. We are seriously under achieving on the field but that doesn’t mean we should accept it. There is absolutely no reason whatsoever why DRFC should not be a championship club. If Rotherham can achieve it then we certainly can. It is up to our board to show that is what they really aspire to achieving. We were told 3 yrs ago that was the goal. We have seen very little over the last 2 yrs that suggests they really meant what they said.
Quote from: Campsall rover on March 06, 2023, 12:19:22 pmQuote from: DonnyBazR0ver on March 06, 2023, 09:07:58 amOh not another 'aren't we hard done by' thread! We ain't going to move on unless we leave this attitude behind and accept sh*t happens. Would you have swapped places with Wrexham, Notts Co and plenty of others?We're definitely a top of the moaning league! Anyone would think we're Sheff Wed fans, thinking we're superior to other clubs.While I agree there are some who moan just for the sake of moaning I don’t think we should just accept that Sh*t happens. The fact is we are financially stable off the field but the last 2 yrs + on the field have been anything but stable. We have been in free fall if we are going to be honest. I don’t think DBR it is unreasonable that our fan base questions what has gone wrong, that has ended up with us where we are right now. In fact I would be concerned if the hard core fans were not questioning what has gone wrong. The fact is we should be a top half League 1 club at a minimum with aspirations of being a Championship club. That’s were we were in January 2021. Yes it is hard to believe. I would like to think we have now bottomed out and now the only way is up. But proof is in the pudding and it is important we now have a positive end to the season. Even if if we do not make the play offs it is important we finish with some serious momentum. Then in the summer we need to see some serious intent on getting promoted next season with some quality recruitment. Why should we be a top end League One club? We're League Two on merit and will only progress on merit. Getting creditable results at Stockport etc, are part of accepting where we are and celebrating it, rather than regurgitating all the reasons where it all went wrong after every performance when we lose or don't play champagne football. I'd like to be happier, and clapping much more but I'm still getting my season ticket for next season because, I'm less likely to see some of our good young players continue to improve and see better players being added to what we've got, if I don't. Whatever thoughts I have about the reasons we've got here, I can't change that. Copps, DS and the players get my support whether we're playing Harrogate or Hull. It's XI v XI.
Quote from: DonnyBazR0ver on March 06, 2023, 09:07:58 amOh not another 'aren't we hard done by' thread! We ain't going to move on unless we leave this attitude behind and accept sh*t happens. Would you have swapped places with Wrexham, Notts Co and plenty of others?We're definitely a top of the moaning league! Anyone would think we're Sheff Wed fans, thinking we're superior to other clubs.While I agree there are some who moan just for the sake of moaning I don’t think we should just accept that Sh*t happens. The fact is we are financially stable off the field but the last 2 yrs + on the field have been anything but stable. We have been in free fall if we are going to be honest. I don’t think DBR it is unreasonable that our fan base questions what has gone wrong, that has ended up with us where we are right now. In fact I would be concerned if the hard core fans were not questioning what has gone wrong. The fact is we should be a top half League 1 club at a minimum with aspirations of being a Championship club. That’s were we were in January 2021. Yes it is hard to believe. I would like to think we have now bottomed out and now the only way is up. But proof is in the pudding and it is important we now have a positive end to the season. Even if if we do not make the play offs it is important we finish with some serious momentum. Then in the summer we need to see some serious intent on getting promoted next season with some quality recruitment.
Oh not another 'aren't we hard done by' thread! We ain't going to move on unless we leave this attitude behind and accept sh*t happens. Would you have swapped places with Wrexham, Notts Co and plenty of others?We're definitely a top of the moaning league! Anyone would think we're Sheff Wed fans, thinking we're superior to other clubs.
This season to date overall we're a mid table League 2 team.But we got 13 points in our first 5 fixtures.Since then we've achieved 34 points in 29 games.And the performance are getting continually worse.We've just been beaten and comprehensively outplayed at home by a team which started today in 21st place.Time to face reality.We're not a mid table League 2 quality team.We're a close to bottom of League 2 quality team.I'm hugely concerned for next season.
What is keeping the owners hanging around when the majority of the fans ckearly dont want them?
What is keeping the owners hanging around when the majority of the fans clearly dont want them?
Quote from: StocksArmy on March 07, 2023, 11:21:30 pmWhat is keeping the owners hanging around when the majority of the fans clearly dont want them? Good question. If I were TB and read all the bile against the board on here and in social media I'd be saying "I don't need this sh!t, you want it? Here it is, all yours; good luck and good bye". Which prompts another question. Where would the club be then?
Quote from: Not Now Kato on March 09, 2023, 12:34:36 pmQuote from: StocksArmy on March 07, 2023, 11:21:30 pmWhat is keeping the owners hanging around when the majority of the fans clearly dont want them? Good question. If I were TB and read all the bile against the board on here and in social media I'd be saying "I don't need this sh!t, you want it? Here it is, all yours; good luck and good bye". Which prompts another question. Where would the club be then?Administration?
Quote from: DonnyBazR0ver on March 09, 2023, 01:10:29 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on March 09, 2023, 12:34:36 pmQuote from: StocksArmy on March 07, 2023, 11:21:30 pmWhat is keeping the owners hanging around when the majority of the fans clearly dont want them? Good question. If I were TB and read all the bile against the board on here and in social media I'd be saying "I don't need this sh!t, you want it? Here it is, all yours; good luck and good bye". Which prompts another question. Where would the club be then?Administration? Most likely. Which I why I fail to understand the mentality of those supporters who can't see it! Unless and until a multi billionaire come out of the woodwork we have what we have and need to support it, through thick and thin. Yes, we should openly criticise what we obviously see as filing - and that is all on the pitch - but those criticisms should be constructive, not destructive; and hope that the club, (DS in particular), listen and act.
Quote from: Not Now Kato on March 09, 2023, 01:19:44 pmQuote from: DonnyBazR0ver on March 09, 2023, 01:10:29 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on March 09, 2023, 12:34:36 pmQuote from: StocksArmy on March 07, 2023, 11:21:30 pmWhat is keeping the owners hanging around when the majority of the fans clearly dont want them? Good question. If I were TB and read all the bile against the board on here and in social media I'd be saying "I don't need this sh!t, you want it? Here it is, all yours; good luck and good bye". Which prompts another question. Where would the club be then?Administration? Most likely. Which I why I fail to understand the mentality of those supporters who can't see it! Unless and until a multi billionaire come out of the woodwork we have what we have and need to support it, through thick and thin. Yes, we should openly criticise what we obviously see as filing - and that is all on the pitch - but those criticisms should be constructive, not destructive; and hope that the club, (DS in particular), listen and act.I’m sure a multi millionaire would be acceptable NNK.Multi billionaires are a bit harder to find.
Quote from: drfchound on March 09, 2023, 03:53:15 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on March 09, 2023, 01:19:44 pmQuote from: DonnyBazR0ver on March 09, 2023, 01:10:29 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on March 09, 2023, 12:34:36 pmQuote from: StocksArmy on March 07, 2023, 11:21:30 pmWhat is keeping the owners hanging around when the majority of the fans clearly dont want them? Good question. If I were TB and read all the bile against the board on here and in social media I'd be saying "I don't need this sh!t, you want it? Here it is, all yours; good luck and good bye". Which prompts another question. Where would the club be then?Administration? Most likely. Which I why I fail to understand the mentality of those supporters who can't see it! Unless and until a multi billionaire come out of the woodwork we have what we have and need to support it, through thick and thin. Yes, we should openly criticise what we obviously see as filing - and that is all on the pitch - but those criticisms should be constructive, not destructive; and hope that the club, (DS in particular), listen and act.I’m sure a multi millionaire would be acceptable NNK.Multi billionaires are a bit harder to find. I seriously doubt a multimillionaire would do any better than TB who is, after all, a multimillionaire, (IIRC not far shy of a billionaire when he joined the Rovers board).
Quote from: Not Now Kato on March 09, 2023, 04:05:35 pmQuote from: drfchound on March 09, 2023, 03:53:15 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on March 09, 2023, 01:19:44 pmQuote from: DonnyBazR0ver on March 09, 2023, 01:10:29 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on March 09, 2023, 12:34:36 pmQuote from: StocksArmy on March 07, 2023, 11:21:30 pmWhat is keeping the owners hanging around when the majority of the fans clearly dont want them? Good question. If I were TB and read all the bile against the board on here and in social media I'd be saying "I don't need this sh!t, you want it? Here it is, all yours; good luck and good bye". Which prompts another question. Where would the club be then?Administration? Most likely. Which I why I fail to understand the mentality of those supporters who can't see it! Unless and until a multi billionaire come out of the woodwork we have what we have and need to support it, through thick and thin. Yes, we should openly criticise what we obviously see as filing - and that is all on the pitch - but those criticisms should be constructive, not destructive; and hope that the club, (DS in particular), listen and act.I’m sure a multi millionaire would be acceptable NNK.Multi billionaires are a bit harder to find. I seriously doubt a multimillionaire would do any better than TB who is, after all, a multimillionaire, (IIRC not far shy of a billionaire when he joined the Rovers board).Nowhere close to being a billionaire.
Quote from: EasyforDennis on March 09, 2023, 04:08:38 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on March 09, 2023, 04:05:35 pmQuote from: drfchound on March 09, 2023, 03:53:15 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on March 09, 2023, 01:19:44 pmQuote from: DonnyBazR0ver on March 09, 2023, 01:10:29 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on March 09, 2023, 12:34:36 pmQuote from: StocksArmy on March 07, 2023, 11:21:30 pmWhat is keeping the owners hanging around when the majority of the fans clearly dont want them? Good question. If I were TB and read all the bile against the board on here and in social media I'd be saying "I don't need this sh!t, you want it? Here it is, all yours; good luck and good bye". Which prompts another question. Where would the club be then?Administration? Most likely. Which I why I fail to understand the mentality of those supporters who can't see it! Unless and until a multi billionaire come out of the woodwork we have what we have and need to support it, through thick and thin. Yes, we should openly criticise what we obviously see as filing - and that is all on the pitch - but those criticisms should be constructive, not destructive; and hope that the club, (DS in particular), listen and act.I’m sure a multi millionaire would be acceptable NNK.Multi billionaires are a bit harder to find. I seriously doubt a multimillionaire would do any better than TB who is, after all, a multimillionaire, (IIRC not far shy of a billionaire when he joined the Rovers board).Nowhere close to being a billionaire. Really? How many millions then, as you clearly claim know?
Quote from: Not Now Kato on March 09, 2023, 04:11:46 pmQuote from: EasyforDennis on March 09, 2023, 04:08:38 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on March 09, 2023, 04:05:35 pmQuote from: drfchound on March 09, 2023, 03:53:15 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on March 09, 2023, 01:19:44 pmQuote from: DonnyBazR0ver on March 09, 2023, 01:10:29 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on March 09, 2023, 12:34:36 pmQuote from: StocksArmy on March 07, 2023, 11:21:30 pmWhat is keeping the owners hanging around when the majority of the fans clearly dont want them? Good question. If I were TB and read all the bile against the board on here and in social media I'd be saying "I don't need this sh!t, you want it? Here it is, all yours; good luck and good bye". Which prompts another question. Where would the club be then?Administration? Most likely. Which I why I fail to understand the mentality of those supporters who can't see it! Unless and until a multi billionaire come out of the woodwork we have what we have and need to support it, through thick and thin. Yes, we should openly criticise what we obviously see as filing - and that is all on the pitch - but those criticisms should be constructive, not destructive; and hope that the club, (DS in particular), listen and act.I’m sure a multi millionaire would be acceptable NNK.Multi billionaires are a bit harder to find. I seriously doubt a multimillionaire would do any better than TB who is, after all, a multimillionaire, (IIRC not far shy of a billionaire when he joined the Rovers board).Nowhere close to being a billionaire. Really? How many millions then, as you clearly claim know?I believe it was quoted as £425k in the Sunday Times rich list.
Quote from: Not Now Kato on March 09, 2023, 04:05:35 pmQuote from: drfchound on March 09, 2023, 03:53:15 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on March 09, 2023, 01:19:44 pmQuote from: DonnyBazR0ver on March 09, 2023, 01:10:29 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on March 09, 2023, 12:34:36 pmQuote from: StocksArmy on March 07, 2023, 11:21:30 pmWhat is keeping the owners hanging around when the majority of the fans clearly dont want them? Good question. If I were TB and read all the bile against the board on here and in social media I'd be saying "I don't need this sh!t, you want it? Here it is, all yours; good luck and good bye". Which prompts another question. Where would the club be then?Administration? Most likely. Which I why I fail to understand the mentality of those supporters who can't see it! Unless and until a multi billionaire come out of the woodwork we have what we have and need to support it, through thick and thin. Yes, we should openly criticise what we obviously see as filing - and that is all on the pitch - but those criticisms should be constructive, not destructive; and hope that the club, (DS in particular), listen and act.I’m sure a multi millionaire would be acceptable NNK.Multi billionaires are a bit harder to find. I seriously doubt a multimillionaire would do any better than TB who is, after all, a multimillionaire, (IIRC not far shy of a billionaire when he joined the Rovers board).A multimillionaire who had an interest in progressing the football club would probably do better.If (a big If) I was as wealthy as TB together with my love of the Rovers, I would have no issue with spending a couple of million quid a year to give a suitable manager a decent chance of putting a good exciting team together. Money attracts money so there is a fair chance of recouping my losses with interest and property and acquisition gains each year and to be honest, out of £500m a couple of million a year is small fry.
Quote from: drfchound on March 09, 2023, 04:26:57 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on March 09, 2023, 04:05:35 pmQuote from: drfchound on March 09, 2023, 03:53:15 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on March 09, 2023, 01:19:44 pmQuote from: DonnyBazR0ver on March 09, 2023, 01:10:29 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on March 09, 2023, 12:34:36 pmQuote from: StocksArmy on March 07, 2023, 11:21:30 pmWhat is keeping the owners hanging around when the majority of the fans clearly dont want them? Good question. If I were TB and read all the bile against the board on here and in social media I'd be saying "I don't need this sh!t, you want it? Here it is, all yours; good luck and good bye". Which prompts another question. Where would the club be then?Administration? Most likely. Which I why I fail to understand the mentality of those supporters who can't see it! Unless and until a multi billionaire come out of the woodwork we have what we have and need to support it, through thick and thin. Yes, we should openly criticise what we obviously see as filing - and that is all on the pitch - but those criticisms should be constructive, not destructive; and hope that the club, (DS in particular), listen and act.I’m sure a multi millionaire would be acceptable NNK.Multi billionaires are a bit harder to find. I seriously doubt a multimillionaire would do any better than TB who is, after all, a multimillionaire, (IIRC not far shy of a billionaire when he joined the Rovers board).A multimillionaire who had an interest in progressing the football club would probably do better.If (a big If) I was as wealthy as TB together with my love of the Rovers, I would have no issue with spending a couple of million quid a year to give a suitable manager a decent chance of putting a good exciting team together. Money attracts money so there is a fair chance of recouping my losses with interest and property and acquisition gains each year and to be honest, out of £500m a couple of million a year is small fry. In which case it shouldn't be too hard to find someone as wealthy as TB willing to throw money into Doncaster Rovers. Know anybody? Because I don't see anyone from the sidelines shouting "Me, Me, Me"! You seem rather keen to tell someone you don't know how to spend their money for your enjoyment, perhaps you should look to where else TB puts some of his money.
Quote from: Not Now Kato on March 09, 2023, 04:40:50 pmQuote from: drfchound on March 09, 2023, 04:26:57 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on March 09, 2023, 04:05:35 pmQuote from: drfchound on March 09, 2023, 03:53:15 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on March 09, 2023, 01:19:44 pmQuote from: DonnyBazR0ver on March 09, 2023, 01:10:29 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on March 09, 2023, 12:34:36 pmQuote from: StocksArmy on March 07, 2023, 11:21:30 pmWhat is keeping the owners hanging around when the majority of the fans clearly dont want them? Good question. If I were TB and read all the bile against the board on here and in social media I'd be saying "I don't need this sh!t, you want it? Here it is, all yours; good luck and good bye". Which prompts another question. Where would the club be then?Administration? Most likely. Which I why I fail to understand the mentality of those supporters who can't see it! Unless and until a multi billionaire come out of the woodwork we have what we have and need to support it, through thick and thin. Yes, we should openly criticise what we obviously see as filing - and that is all on the pitch - but those criticisms should be constructive, not destructive; and hope that the club, (DS in particular), listen and act.I’m sure a multi millionaire would be acceptable NNK.Multi billionaires are a bit harder to find. I seriously doubt a multimillionaire would do any better than TB who is, after all, a multimillionaire, (IIRC not far shy of a billionaire when he joined the Rovers board).A multimillionaire who had an interest in progressing the football club would probably do better.If (a big If) I was as wealthy as TB together with my love of the Rovers, I would have no issue with spending a couple of million quid a year to give a suitable manager a decent chance of putting a good exciting team together. Money attracts money so there is a fair chance of recouping my losses with interest and property and acquisition gains each year and to be honest, out of £500m a couple of million a year is small fry. In which case it shouldn't be too hard to find someone as wealthy as TB willing to throw money into Doncaster Rovers. Know anybody? Because I don't see anyone from the sidelines shouting "Me, Me, Me"! You seem rather keen to tell someone you don't know how to spend their money for your enjoyment, perhaps you should look to where else TB puts some of his money.Kato, you are not reading what I wrote.I was saying what I would do, not telling TB what he should do.And, actually I do know TB, I have played tennis with him and been on foreign trips with him.As for do I know anyone who might want to buy the Rovers, no is the answer.At the start of my post I said a multimillionaire who is interested in the Rovers might do better.
Quote from: drfchound on March 09, 2023, 04:45:49 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on March 09, 2023, 04:40:50 pmQuote from: drfchound on March 09, 2023, 04:26:57 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on March 09, 2023, 04:05:35 pmQuote from: drfchound on March 09, 2023, 03:53:15 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on March 09, 2023, 01:19:44 pmQuote from: DonnyBazR0ver on March 09, 2023, 01:10:29 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on March 09, 2023, 12:34:36 pmQuote from: StocksArmy on March 07, 2023, 11:21:30 pmWhat is keeping the owners hanging around when the majority of the fans clearly dont want them? Good question. If I were TB and read all the bile against the board on here and in social media I'd be saying "I don't need this sh!t, you want it? Here it is, all yours; good luck and good bye". Which prompts another question. Where would the club be then?Administration? Most likely. Which I why I fail to understand the mentality of those supporters who can't see it! Unless and until a multi billionaire come out of the woodwork we have what we have and need to support it, through thick and thin. Yes, we should openly criticise what we obviously see as filing - and that is all on the pitch - but those criticisms should be constructive, not destructive; and hope that the club, (DS in particular), listen and act.I’m sure a multi millionaire would be acceptable NNK.Multi billionaires are a bit harder to find. I seriously doubt a multimillionaire would do any better than TB who is, after all, a multimillionaire, (IIRC not far shy of a billionaire when he joined the Rovers board).A multimillionaire who had an interest in progressing the football club would probably do better.If (a big If) I was as wealthy as TB together with my love of the Rovers, I would have no issue with spending a couple of million quid a year to give a suitable manager a decent chance of putting a good exciting team together. Money attracts money so there is a fair chance of recouping my losses with interest and property and acquisition gains each year and to be honest, out of £500m a couple of million a year is small fry. In which case it shouldn't be too hard to find someone as wealthy as TB willing to throw money into Doncaster Rovers. Know anybody? Because I don't see anyone from the sidelines shouting "Me, Me, Me"! You seem rather keen to tell someone you don't know how to spend their money for your enjoyment, perhaps you should look to where else TB puts some of his money.Kato, you are not reading what I wrote.I was saying what I would do, not telling TB what he should do.And, actually I do know TB, I have played tennis with him and been on foreign trips with him.As for do I know anyone who might want to buy the Rovers, no is the answer.At the start of my post I said a multimillionaire who is interested in the Rovers might do better. And I still contend, per my earlier post, that it will take significantly more than a multimillionaire to make an ongoing difference. Putting money into a football club at our level, (and at any level outside the Prem), is tantamount to giving money away. There aren’t many philanthropists like TB around, sadly.
Quote from: Not Now Kato on March 09, 2023, 04:56:03 pmQuote from: drfchound on March 09, 2023, 04:45:49 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on March 09, 2023, 04:40:50 pmQuote from: drfchound on March 09, 2023, 04:26:57 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on March 09, 2023, 04:05:35 pmQuote from: drfchound on March 09, 2023, 03:53:15 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on March 09, 2023, 01:19:44 pmQuote from: DonnyBazR0ver on March 09, 2023, 01:10:29 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on March 09, 2023, 12:34:36 pmQuote from: StocksArmy on March 07, 2023, 11:21:30 pmWhat is keeping the owners hanging around when the majority of the fans clearly dont want them? Good question. If I were TB and read all the bile against the board on here and in social media I'd be saying "I don't need this sh!t, you want it? Here it is, all yours; good luck and good bye". Which prompts another question. Where would the club be then?Administration? Most likely. Which I why I fail to understand the mentality of those supporters who can't see it! Unless and until a multi billionaire come out of the woodwork we have what we have and need to support it, through thick and thin. Yes, we should openly criticise what we obviously see as filing - and that is all on the pitch - but those criticisms should be constructive, not destructive; and hope that the club, (DS in particular), listen and act.I’m sure a multi millionaire would be acceptable NNK.Multi billionaires are a bit harder to find. I seriously doubt a multimillionaire would do any better than TB who is, after all, a multimillionaire, (IIRC not far shy of a billionaire when he joined the Rovers board).A multimillionaire who had an interest in progressing the football club would probably do better.If (a big If) I was as wealthy as TB together with my love of the Rovers, I would have no issue with spending a couple of million quid a year to give a suitable manager a decent chance of putting a good exciting team together. Money attracts money so there is a fair chance of recouping my losses with interest and property and acquisition gains each year and to be honest, out of £500m a couple of million a year is small fry. In which case it shouldn't be too hard to find someone as wealthy as TB willing to throw money into Doncaster Rovers. Know anybody? Because I don't see anyone from the sidelines shouting "Me, Me, Me"! You seem rather keen to tell someone you don't know how to spend their money for your enjoyment, perhaps you should look to where else TB puts some of his money.Kato, you are not reading what I wrote.I was saying what I would do, not telling TB what he should do.And, actually I do know TB, I have played tennis with him and been on foreign trips with him.As for do I know anyone who might want to buy the Rovers, no is the answer.At the start of my post I said a multimillionaire who is interested in the Rovers might do better. And I still contend, per my earlier post, that it will take significantly more than a multimillionaire to make an ongoing difference. Putting money into a football club at our level, (and at any level outside the Prem), is tantamount to giving money away. There aren’t many philanthropists like TB around, sadly.Kato, I assume that anyone who takes on the Rovers in the future would probably be also taking on Club Doncaster.If that was you and you had £500m to your name would you think you could afford to add a couple of million pounds a year in addition to the self subsidising money that CD contributes to try to make the football more entertaining, draw back the fan base and try for promotion?Given that you would already have your big houses and cars it would take a long time to spend £500m, and don’t forget that your pot would naturally grow every year as well.
Quote from: drfchound on March 09, 2023, 07:34:03 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on March 09, 2023, 04:56:03 pmQuote from: drfchound on March 09, 2023, 04:45:49 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on March 09, 2023, 04:40:50 pmQuote from: drfchound on March 09, 2023, 04:26:57 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on March 09, 2023, 04:05:35 pmQuote from: drfchound on March 09, 2023, 03:53:15 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on March 09, 2023, 01:19:44 pmQuote from: DonnyBazR0ver on March 09, 2023, 01:10:29 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on March 09, 2023, 12:34:36 pmQuote from: StocksArmy on March 07, 2023, 11:21:30 pmWhat is keeping the owners hanging around when the majority of the fans clearly dont want them? Good question. If I were TB and read all the bile against the board on here and in social media I'd be saying "I don't need this sh!t, you want it? Here it is, all yours; good luck and good bye". Which prompts another question. Where would the club be then?Administration? Most likely. Which I why I fail to understand the mentality of those supporters who can't see it! Unless and until a multi billionaire come out of the woodwork we have what we have and need to support it, through thick and thin. Yes, we should openly criticise what we obviously see as filing - and that is all on the pitch - but those criticisms should be constructive, not destructive; and hope that the club, (DS in particular), listen and act.I’m sure a multi millionaire would be acceptable NNK.Multi billionaires are a bit harder to find. I seriously doubt a multimillionaire would do any better than TB who is, after all, a multimillionaire, (IIRC not far shy of a billionaire when he joined the Rovers board).A multimillionaire who had an interest in progressing the football club would probably do better.If (a big If) I was as wealthy as TB together with my love of the Rovers, I would have no issue with spending a couple of million quid a year to give a suitable manager a decent chance of putting a good exciting team together. Money attracts money so there is a fair chance of recouping my losses with interest and property and acquisition gains each year and to be honest, out of £500m a couple of million a year is small fry. In which case it shouldn't be too hard to find someone as wealthy as TB willing to throw money into Doncaster Rovers. Know anybody? Because I don't see anyone from the sidelines shouting "Me, Me, Me"! You seem rather keen to tell someone you don't know how to spend their money for your enjoyment, perhaps you should look to where else TB puts some of his money.Kato, you are not reading what I wrote.I was saying what I would do, not telling TB what he should do.And, actually I do know TB, I have played tennis with him and been on foreign trips with him.As for do I know anyone who might want to buy the Rovers, no is the answer.At the start of my post I said a multimillionaire who is interested in the Rovers might do better. And I still contend, per my earlier post, that it will take significantly more than a multimillionaire to make an ongoing difference. Putting money into a football club at our level, (and at any level outside the Prem), is tantamount to giving money away. There aren’t many philanthropists like TB around, sadly.Kato, I assume that anyone who takes on the Rovers in the future would probably be also taking on Club Doncaster.If that was you and you had £500m to your name would you think you could afford to add a couple of million pounds a year in addition to the self subsidising money that CD contributes to try to make the football more entertaining, draw back the fan base and try for promotion?Given that you would already have your big houses and cars it would take a long time to spend £500m, and don’t forget that your pot would naturally grow every year as well.If you are worth £500m then if invested properly you would certainly be earning more than £2m on it each year.