My View

[Sammy Chung was King]

We are shrinking towards non league and nobody seems that bothered at the club. Is non league going to be finding our level?

[ravenrover]

Cheers RR. Just for the record, he has also been working for a multi-academy education trust in the North-West as their Head of Sporting Excellence.

As a matter of interest, would Dickov have gone up in your estimation if he'd gone on to manage a club and taken them 11 points clear at the top of the table?

Looks like an excellent cause he is involved in.
No he wouldn't as I am only interested in his time at DRFC, his managerial career pre or post DRFC is of no interest to me.
Would he have been appointed in the 1st place had he not been a friend/neighbour of JR?
All water under the bridge now for me.

[danumdon]

"and the awful announcer who really gets on my tits"  He may get on your tits DD but to say he's awful is grossly unfair.  For me he does the job very well.

Ok i accept that was a little harsh, the reason i say it is that as a fan stood in the seating section of the ground where i sit, top SW corner i cannot fathom one word that he says, its just a white noise, its never got any better and is just an annoyance to have this in the background for what seems like an eternity before every match. I appreciate that its far better in the concourses and maybe in other parts of the ground but i can only speak of my own experience.

[Bentley Bullet]

Cheers RR. Just for the record, he has also been working for a multi-academy education trust in the North-West as their Head of Sporting Excellence.

As a matter of interest, would Dickov have gone up in your estimation if he'd gone on to manage a club and taken them 11 points clear at the top of the table?

Looks like an excellent cause he is involved in.
No he wouldn't as I am only interested in his time at DRFC, his managerial career pre or post DRFC is of no interest to me.
Would he have been appointed in the 1st place had he not been a friend/neighbour of JR?
All water under the bridge now for me.

Would he have accepted the appointment in the first place had he not been a friend/neighbour of JR?

[ravenrover]

Would we have considered him otherwise? I've said my piece about your whatifery BB all yours now

[Bentley Bullet]

Would he have considered us otherwise?

[NickDRFC]

Would he have considered us otherwise?

Would an unemployed manager whose only previous experience amounted to a spell at a lower League One club have considered us, a Championship club, had he not lived next door to JR? I’m not a mind reader but I imagine yes, he would have.

[mushRTID]

Ive had nothing to say on this debacle since the half time break, after that i stood and watched what we served up as a game of football!, right till the very end, it started to feel like i was purposely punishing myself for us being so abjectly poor.

Thinking about this since and reading what's been posted here on countless threads its obvious that none of our fans are demanding that we need to be better, higher in the league, bigger than most in this league, Its the EXPECTATION that's permeated into the supporters.

The expectation started from the top of the club, "destination championship" on more than one occasion, a good and decent budget for our level in this league and above, having a stadium built for 15K instead of the standard 10k lower league team. The talk of progressing and developing into a regular championship club from many around the team. Having a true fan like JR at the helm driving the club on, trying to build the fan base

All the above led to raised expectations from the fans, we have a large tranche of support who up until a couple of years ago had only really ever witnessed an upward progress going back from our emergence from the none league.

This all helped to raise expectation around the club and a great many of fans have brought into this and are now left perplexed and disappointed that with the demise of JR and the reign of TB we have taken a backward step into becoming  a self sustaining club, this in itself is a laudable expectation but the fan base is now seeing what the real implications of what this really means. You don't need me to spell it out to anyone what it really means but its here, its active and its eating the club away from the inside out.

I get the impression now that a great many fans are actively looking for a reason as to why the continue to pursue what has now become a real hard grind, on a par with getting teeth pulled, its just not enjoyable to come to the footy anymore. The Ground looks like it needs afresh maintenance regime, the food and drink has been done to death but we all know where that stands, the spectacle is just rank poor, from the  scoreboard that has died, the dwindling floodlights in the gantry each game, the general lack and apathy around the place, the piss poor PA system and the awful announcer who really gets on my tits, the poor i follow product that always seems to be many magnitudes lower in standard than every other clubs, our general  overall package seems very poor now, not comparable to previously, is this a cost cutting thing?

What im basically saying is after our arrival back in the pro league we started out with aspirations of grandeur, aiming for the championship and beyond? but when we got their we realised that the level of finance was a bridge to far for our chiefs, and we rowed back into the Club Doncaster plan which most of the fans hate because they know it means we re now being rebranded as a typical bottom tier club, nothing more nothing less.

Expectations, look where its left us. I'm doggedly going to stick it out to the end of the season, (i've paid for the season ticket so im going to bloody use it) I've already brought next seasons, but a continuation of this regurgitated slop might beat even me.

At the final whistle on Tues night my thoughts went back a few years to the fella who ran to the from of the players dugouts and tore up his season ticket in front of the then manager, we can't even do that now with the credit card format and if you throw it you might take someone's eye out, but it was a thought that i actively had, i wonder how many others felt so deflated with it all like this ?

The perils of supporting Rover til you die eh!!

Re your comment about ripping a season ticket up… I have already renewed for next season along with my nephew and my 5 year olds first season ticket.

I was that pissed off Tuesday night it genuinely crossed my mind how I would go about asking for a refund.

The whole club stinks at the moment and I’m struggling to handle it!

[Alan Southstand]

If it’s any consolation, mush, you’re in an ever-expanding group! It’s just a never ending cycle of disappointment right now and nobody at the Club seems capable or willing to halt the slide. Maybe, like DS, they’re blind to it.

[since-1969]

My last game was Wimbledon at home 1st game last season. I was bored and the entertainment value was nil. Since that day nothing has changed to make me want to go again. I chat to fans that go and read the forum,  when SOD came the football was boring but you could see what he was trying to do and the effort the playrs put in to deliver. But the football at the moment is very poor and there seems no method no passion. Hopefully things change in the future and I will return, but till then I remain an armchair fan.

SOD brought into the club by a man John Ryan who cared about the club and had a vision of its future , Sean O’Driscoll was brought in as a teacher in the art of how football should be played and gathered together a team of players who would lift the club to the Championship! We are NOW ran by novices and footballing amateurs .

He also brought in Dean Saunders and a bloke called Willy McKay.

He tried to solve a problem , and I’m sure is fuming at his legacy being sh** on !!

[Bentley Bullet]

It may be justified to solely blame John Ryan for bringing McKay to the club, and its subsequent failure, but would he have been given all the credit if the experiment had been successful?

[Campsall rover]

"and the awful announcer who really gets on my tits"  He may get on your tits DD but to say he's awful is grossly unfair.  For me he does the job very well.

Nothing wrong with the announcer. In fact i think he is very good. He does lots of other excellent work ref hospitality also.
The problem is the awful load speaker system. For a modern stadium it’s a shambles and has never been dealt with.

[normal rules]

The announcer does a sterling job. I’d advise any critics of his to spend an afternoon in the hospitality lounge. He does a very good job imo.

[danumdon]

I'll hold my hands up again if it helps any of you, my comment was based more towards the communication equipment the club use and not the individual.

Though i will say again what benefit does any fan sat up in the seats get from his labours, unless you happen to be in the concourses or the executive areas of the ground all you get is a guy wandering around and making a great big din, honestly its not nice to have to put up with the racket.

I can't vouch for his promotions work but i will accept what others have said about him. I should chose my words more carefully in future as it's not his fault the kit is not optimal.

[i_ateallthepies]

Your comment DD was very clearly aimed at the announcer and you have rightly been called out on it.