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Best player I ever played with was Brian Pollard at York City. He was a right winger. Quick and skilful. Similar to Windy Miller was at Rovers.Northern Intermediate League 1972/73 Brian played in a couple of games i played in that season.He was in the 1st team quite a bit that season aged 19 Best player played against was Joe Cook at Bradford City. Same season 72/73 same league. Scored 2 goals ( 1 a pen ) against me at Valley Parade.Striker who went on to have a good career at Bradford City, Peterborough Utd and others.Best player who never fulfilled his true potential. Well one of them was ( yes I am bias ) was my younger step son Neil Illman who at age 16/18 was an extremely talented player. A left winger or striker.Steve Beaglehole took him to Middlesbrough when he went there as youth coach and Bruce Ricoh who was manager was very impressed with him after watching him in the U18s Played 4 games for Middlesbrough in 2nd tier. 20 odd for Plymouth Argyle in 3rd tier and then Northwich Victoria and Stevenage in the Conference. Scored against Rovers for the Vicks at Drill field in a 3-2 win for Rovers. ( I let him off seeing we won ) He also played 2 games for Rovers when Ian Snodin was manager.Never fulfilled his potential though. Not sure what went wrong. Bit of immaturity I think and a pillock of a coach at Boro called Ray Train ( played for Carlisle & Walsall ) didn’t help, who never praised him only criticised. How can you be slated for scoring a goal from 30 yards. Top corner of net v Preston foe reserves. Told in no uncertain manor that he should have passed the ball. This happened all the time. Bernie Slaven tore into this coach after one reserve game at Wigan after Neil scored the winner in last 5 mins. For reason stated above. Being bias again, my older step son Mark Illman also never fulfilled his potential, but that was mainly due to a bad Achilles tendon injury. He scored 21 goals in 19 games for Rovers Northern Intermediate League team in 1989/90 aged 17 Bremner who was back at Rovers wanted to sign him Pro contract but due to budget restrictions wasn’t able to. Went to Chesterfield and picked as sub, debut for 1st team away at Cambridge in 3rd tier. Paul Hart was manager, Chris McMenemy coach, ( Laurie’s son ) Dave Rushbury was Physio.Then picked up bad injury. Lost confidence and motivation. He should have had a career in the EFL There are hundreds though, thousands over the years who should have made it that didn’t. Some who played lower league pro football who had the ability to be Premier league players. Some who only played non league who with a bit of luck could have played in the football League. Player at Rovers who springs to mind & didn’t fulfil his potential was Andy Watson. A winger who Ian and Glynn pulled from obscurity at Garforth Town. He was one of many wasted talents I have seen over the years. Apologies for such a long ramble.
Quote from: Wild Rover on March 16, 2023, 12:59:09 pmI thought it was "played with" not "against", but if against counts Kevin Keegan ( 3 times) Malcolm Webster (3 times) Trevor Hickson (4 times) Jim Golze ( just the once) Also a couple of notable Algerians. One player who i never had the pleasure of being alongside, who was possibly the best i was at school with was Brian Turner.WR,I think I must have been in the year ahead of you at school.I played with Brian Turner a very good CH. He did actually play for Donny Boys, but KK never did.The coach at the time was Ken Howard, my form master, who's claim to fame was that he never ever played KK yet he was in the Donny Boys squad.
I thought it was "played with" not "against", but if against counts Kevin Keegan ( 3 times) Malcolm Webster (3 times) Trevor Hickson (4 times) Jim Golze ( just the once) Also a couple of notable Algerians. One player who i never had the pleasure of being alongside, who was possibly the best i was at school with was Brian Turner.
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Quote from: Campsall rover on March 16, 2023, 12:26:58 pmBest player I ever played with was Brian Pollard at York City. He was a right winger. Quick and skilful. Similar to Windy Miller was at Rovers.Northern Intermediate League 1972/73 Brian played in a couple of games i played in that season.He was in the 1st team quite a bit that season aged 19 Best player played against was Joe Cook at Bradford City. Same season 72/73 same league. Scored 2 goals ( 1 a pen ) against me at Valley Parade.Striker who went on to have a good career at Bradford City, Peterborough Utd and others.Best player who never fulfilled his true potential. Well one of them was ( yes I am bias ) was my younger step son Neil Illman who at age 16/18 was an extremely talented player. A left winger or striker.Steve Beaglehole took him to Middlesbrough when he went there as youth coach and Bruce Ricoh who was manager was very impressed with him after watching him in the U18s Played 4 games for Middlesbrough in 2nd tier. 20 odd for Plymouth Argyle in 3rd tier and then Northwich Victoria and Stevenage in the Conference. Scored against Rovers for the Vicks at Drill field in a 3-2 win for Rovers. ( I let him off seeing we won ) He also played 2 games for Rovers when Ian Snodin was manager.Never fulfilled his potential though. Not sure what went wrong. Bit of immaturity I think and a pillock of a coach at Boro called Ray Train ( played for Carlisle & Walsall ) didn’t help, who never praised him only criticised. How can you be slated for scoring a goal from 30 yards. Top corner of net v Preston foe reserves. Told in no uncertain manor that he should have passed the ball. This happened all the time. Bernie Slaven tore into this coach after one reserve game at Wigan after Neil scored the winner in last 5 mins. For reason stated above. Being bias again, my older step son Mark Illman also never fulfilled his potential, but that was mainly due to a bad Achilles tendon injury. He scored 21 goals in 19 games for Rovers Northern Intermediate League team in 1989/90 aged 17 Bremner who was back at Rovers wanted to sign him Pro contract but due to budget restrictions wasn’t able to. Went to Chesterfield and picked as sub, debut for 1st team away at Cambridge in 3rd tier. Paul Hart was manager, Chris McMenemy coach, ( Laurie’s son ) Dave Rushbury was Physio.Then picked up bad injury. Lost confidence and motivation. He should have had a career in the EFL There are hundreds though, thousands over the years who should have made it that didn’t. Some who played lower league pro football who had the ability to be Premier league players. Some who only played non league who with a bit of luck could have played in the football League. Player at Rovers who springs to mind & didn’t fulfil his potential was Andy Watson. A winger who Ian and Glynn pulled from obscurity at Garforth Town. He was one of many wasted talents I have seen over the years. Apologies for such a long ramble. played with Neil in the school team and there was some very good players in that team ,Adi moses who played for Barnsley, But a young lad called Gerrard Ring went to Forrest under Brian Clough but he decided to pack it in and become a solicitor but if he stuck at it could have played for England he really was that good ,Also played with Mark at Sunday league level ,both were very good players.
Quote from: Campsall rover on March 16, 2023, 12:26:58 pmBest player I ever played with was Brian Pollard at York City. He was a right winger. Quick and skilful. Similar to Windy Miller was at Rovers.Northern Intermediate League 1972/73 Brian played in a couple of games i played in that season.He was in the 1st team quite a bit that season aged 19 Best player played against was Joe Cook at Bradford City. Same season 72/73 same league. Scored 2 goals ( 1 a pen ) against me at Valley Parade.Striker who went on to have a good career at Bradford City, Peterborough Utd and others.Best player who never fulfilled his true potential. Well one of them was ( yes I am bias ) was my younger step son Neil Illman who at age 16/18 was an extremely talented player. A left winger or striker.Steve Beaglehole took him to Middlesbrough when he went there as youth coach and Bruce Ricoh who was manager was very impressed with him after watching him in the U18s Played 4 games for Middlesbrough in 2nd tier. 20 odd for Plymouth Argyle in 3rd tier and then Northwich Victoria and Stevenage in the Conference. Scored against Rovers for the Vicks at Drill field in a 3-2 win for Rovers. ( I let him off seeing we won ) He also played 2 games for Rovers when Ian Snodin was manager.Never fulfilled his potential though. Not sure what went wrong. Bit of immaturity I think and a pillock of a coach at Boro called Ray Train ( played for Carlisle & Walsall ) didn’t help, who never praised him only criticised. How can you be slated for scoring a goal from 30 yards. Top corner of net v Preston foe reserves. Told in no uncertain manor that he should have passed the ball. This happened all the time. Bernie Slaven tore into this coach after one reserve game at Wigan after Neil scored the winner in last 5 mins. For reason stated above. Being bias again, my older step son Mark Illman also never fulfilled his potential, but that was mainly due to a bad Achilles tendon injury. He scored 21 goals in 19 games for Rovers Northern Intermediate League team in 1989/90 aged 17 Bremner who was back at Rovers wanted to sign him Pro contract but due to budget restrictions wasn’t able to. Went to Chesterfield and picked as sub, debut for 1st team away at Cambridge in 3rd tier. Paul Hart was manager, Chris McMenemy coach, ( Laurie’s son ) Dave Rushbury was Physio.Then picked up bad injury. Lost confidence and motivation. He should have had a career in the EFL There are hundreds though, thousands over the years who should have made it that didn’t. Some who played lower league pro football who had the ability to be Premier league players. Some who only played non league who with a bit of luck could have played in the football League. Player at Rovers who springs to mind & didn’t fulfil his potential was Andy Watson. A winger who Ian and Glynn pulled from obscurity at Garforth Town. He was one of many wasted talents I have seen over the years. Apologies for such a long ramble. deffo agree about mark
Quote from: Campsall rover on March 16, 2023, 12:26:58 pmBest player I ever played with was Brian Pollard at York City. He was a right winger. Quick and skilful. Similar to Windy Miller was at Rovers.Northern Intermediate League 1972/73 Brian played in a couple of games i played in that season.He was in the 1st team quite a bit that season aged 19 Best player played against was Joe Cook at Bradford City. Same season 72/73 same league. Scored 2 goals ( 1 a pen ) against me at Valley Parade.Striker who went on to have a good career at Bradford City, Peterborough Utd and others.Best player who never fulfilled his true potential. Well one of them was ( yes I am bias ) was my younger step son Neil Illman who at age 16/18 was an extremely talented player. A left winger or striker.Steve Beaglehole took him to Middlesbrough when he went there as youth coach and Bruce Ricoh who was manager was very impressed with him after watching him in the U18s Played 4 games for Middlesbrough in 2nd tier. 20 odd for Plymouth Argyle in 3rd tier and then Northwich Victoria and Stevenage in the Conference. Scored against Rovers for the Vicks at Drill field in a 3-2 win for Rovers. ( I let him off seeing we won ) He also played 2 games for Rovers when Ian Snodin was manager.Never fulfilled his potential though. Not sure what went wrong. Bit of immaturity I think and a pillock of a coach at Boro called Ray Train ( played for Carlisle & Walsall ) didn’t help, who never praised him only criticised. How can you be slated for scoring a goal from 30 yards. Top corner of net v Preston foe reserves. Told in no uncertain manor that he should have passed the ball. This happened all the time. Bernie Slaven tore into this coach after one reserve game at Wigan after Neil scored the winner in last 5 mins. For reason stated above. Being bias again, my older step son Mark Illman also never fulfilled his potential, but that was mainly due to a bad Achilles tendon injury. He scored 21 goals in 19 games for Rovers Northern Intermediate League team in 1989/90 aged 17 Bremner who was back at Rovers wanted to sign him Pro contract but due to budget restrictions wasn’t able to. Went to Chesterfield and picked as sub, debut for 1st team away at Cambridge in 3rd tier. Paul Hart was manager, Chris McMenemy coach, ( Laurie’s son ) Dave Rushbury was Physio.Then picked up bad injury. Lost confidence and motivation. He should have had a career in the EFL There are hundreds though, thousands over the years who should have made it that didn’t. Some who played lower league pro football who had the ability to be Premier league players. Some who only played non league who with a bit of luck could have played in the football League. Player at Rovers who springs to mind & didn’t fulfil his potential was Andy Watson. A winger who Ian and Glynn pulled from obscurity at Garforth Town. He was one of many wasted talents I have seen over the years. Apologies for such a long ramble. played with Neil in the school team and there was some very good players in that team ,Adi moses who played for Barnsley, But a young lad called Gerrard Ring went to Forrest under Brian Clough but he decided to pack it in and become a solicitor but if he stuck at it could have played for England he really was that good ,Also played with Mark at Sunday league level ,both were very good players.
Best player I ever played with was Brian Pollard at York City. He was a right winger. Quick and skilful. Similar to Windy Miller was at Rovers.Northern Intermediate League 1972/73 Brian played in a couple of games i played in that season.He was in the 1st team quite a bit that season aged 19 Best player played against was Joe Cook at Bradford City. Same season 72/73 same league. Scored 2 goals ( 1 a pen ) against me at Valley Parade.Striker who went on to have a good career at Bradford City, Peterborough Utd and others.Best player who never fulfilled his true potential. Well one of them was ( yes I am bias ) was my younger step son Neil Illman who at age 16/18 was an extremely talented player. A left winger or striker.Steve Beaglehole took him to Middlesbrough when he went there as youth coach and Bruce Ricoh who was manager was very impressed with him after watching him in the U18s Played 4 games for Middlesbrough in 2nd tier. 20 odd for Plymouth Argyle in 3rd tier and then Northwich Victoria and Stevenage in the Conference. Scored against Rovers for the Vicks at Drill field in a 3-2 win for Rovers. ( I let him off seeing we won ) He also played 2 games for Rovers when Ian Snodin was manager.Never fulfilled his potential though. Not sure what went wrong. Bit of immaturity I think and a pillock of a coach at Boro called Ray Train ( played for Carlisle & Walsall ) didn’t help, who never praised him only criticised. How can you be slated for scoring a goal from 30 yards. Top corner of net v Preston foe reserves. Told in no uncertain manor that he should have passed the ball. This happened all the time. Bernie Slaven tore into this coach after one reserve game at Wigan after Neil scored the winner in last 5 mins. For reason stated above. Being bias again, my older step son Mark Illman also never fulfilled his potential, but that was mainly due to a bad Achilles tendon injury. He scored 21 goals in 19 games for Rovers Northern Intermediate League team in 1989/90 aged 17 Bremner who was back at Rovers wanted to sign him Pro contract but due to budget restrictions wasn’t able to. Went to Chesterfield and picked as sub, debut for 1st team away at Cambridge in 3rd tier. Paul Hart was manager, Chris McMenemy coach, ( Laurie’s son ) Dave Rushbury was Physio.Then picked up bad injury. Lost confidence and motivation. He should have had a career in the EFL There are hundreds though, thousands over the years who should have made it that didn’t. Some who played lower league pro football who had the ability to be Premier league players. Some who only played non league who with a bit of luck could have played in the football League. Player at Rovers who springs to mind & didn’t fulfil his potential was Andy Watson. A winger who Ian and Glynn pulled from obscurity at Garforth Town. He was one of many wasted talents I have seen over the years. Apologies for such a long ramble.
Quote from: Alickismyhero on March 16, 2023, 08:49:15 pmQuote from: Wild Rover on March 16, 2023, 12:59:09 pmI thought it was "played with" not "against", but if against counts Kevin Keegan ( 3 times) Malcolm Webster (3 times) Trevor Hickson (4 times) Jim Golze ( just the once) Also a couple of notable Algerians. One player who i never had the pleasure of being alongside, who was possibly the best i was at school with was Brian Turner.WR,I think I must have been in the year ahead of you at school.I played with Brian Turner a very good CH. He did actually play for Donny Boys, but KK never did.The coach at the time was Ken Howard, my form master, who's claim to fame was that he never ever played KK yet he was in the Donny Boys squad. At Stainforth Sec 1962 - 1967 Same class as Ken Shaw, Gary Nesbitt, John Bytheway. Dave Roebuck, Roy nixon, Peter Furr Billy Liddle, Billy Main, Ian Gregory
Quote from: Wild Rover on March 16, 2023, 12:59:09 pmI thought it was "played with" not "against", but if against counts Kevin Keegan ( 3 times) Malcolm Webster (3 times) Trevor Hickson (4 times) Jim Golze ( just the once) Also a couple of notable Algerians. One player who i never had the pleasure of being alongside, who was possibly the best i was at school with was Brian Turner.WR,I think I must have been in the year ahead of you at school.I played with Brian Turner a very good CH. He did actually play for Donny Boys, but KK never did.The coach at the time was Ken Howard, my form master, who's claim to fame was that he never ever played KK yet he was in the Donny Boys squad.
I thought it was "played with" not "against", but if against counts Kevin Keegan ( 3 times) Malcolm Webster (3 times) Trevor Hickson (4 times) Jim Golze ( just the once) Also a couple of notable Algerians. One player who i never had the pleasure of being alongside, who was possibly the best i was at school with was Brian Turner.
Quote from: Wild Rover on March 17, 2023, 01:05:30 amQuote from: Alickismyhero on March 16, 2023, 08:49:15 pmQuote from: Wild Rover on March 16, 2023, 12:59:09 pmI thought it was "played with" not "against", but if against counts Kevin Keegan ( 3 times) Malcolm Webster (3 times) Trevor Hickson (4 times) Jim Golze ( just the once) Also a couple of notable Algerians. One player who i never had the pleasure of being alongside, who was possibly the best i was at school with was Brian Turner.WR,I think I must have been in the year ahead of you at school.I played with Brian Turner a very good CH. He did actually play for Donny Boys, but KK never did.The coach at the time was Ken Howard, my form master, who's claim to fame was that he never ever played KK yet he was in the Donny Boys squad. At Stainforth Sec 1962 - 1967 Same class as Ken Shaw, Gary Nesbitt, John Bytheway. Dave Roebuck, Roy nixon, Peter Furr Billy Liddle, Billy Main, Ian GregoryYes I remember playing football with Gary Nesbitt, big John Bytheway, Dave Roebuck, Peter Furr, little Billy Liddle. I was the year ahead 61 -_66, with my birthday being 31/8 one day later I would have been in your year!I was very bitter with Mr Smith I never got a look in for a game for the school until Mr Jones took over the school teams. I eventually started to play for the 3rd and 4th year teams. Our Headmaster, whos name I forget, got me 6 trial games at Donny. after the 6th game Donny never had the decency to say "sorry son your not good enough".On reflection I left for college in London, played football twice a week, had my 18th birthday playing football in Germany. My dream of playing football for Donny would never have been, too many injuries. I now sit here with 5 different fractures to the right ankle which I am pleased to say has been successfully screwed back together again.I enjoyed my football while it lasted.RIP Russell Yeats, Billy Lockwood, Greg Parsonage, Ray Yeardly. Mates I played football with.
Quote from: Alickismyhero on March 16, 2023, 08:49:15 pmQuote from: Wild Rover on March 16, 2023, 12:59:09 pmI thought it was "played with" not "against", but if against counts Kevin Keegan ( 3 times) Malcolm Webster (3 times) Trevor Hickson (4 times) Jim Golze ( just the once) Also a couple of notable Algerians. One player who i never had the pleasure of being alongside, who was possibly the best i was at school with was Brian Turner.WR,I think I must have been in the year ahead of you at school.I played with Brian Turner a very good CH. He did actually play for Donny Boys, but KK never did.The coach at the time was Ken Howard, my form master, who's claim to fame was that he never ever played KK yet he was in the Donny Boys squad. At Stainforth Sec 1962 - 1967 Same class as Ken Shaw, Gary Nesbitt, John Bytheway. Dave Roebuck, Roy nixon, Peter Furr Billy Liddle, Billy Main, Ian Gregory
Quote from: Wild Rover on March 16, 2023, 12:59:09 pmI thought it was "played with" not "against", but if against counts Kevin Keegan ( 3 times) Malcolm Webster (3 times) Trevor Hickson (4 times) Jim Golze ( just the once) Also a couple of notable Algerians. One player who i never had the pleasure of being alongside, who was possibly the best i was at school with was Brian Turner.WR,I think I must have been in the year ahead of you at school.I played with Brian Turner a very good CH. He did actually play for Donny Boys, but KK never did.The coach at the time was Ken Howard, my form master, who's claim to fame was that he never ever played KK yet he was in the Donny Boys squad.
I thought it was "played with" not "against", but if against counts Kevin Keegan ( 3 times) Malcolm Webster (3 times) Trevor Hickson (4 times) Jim Golze ( just the once) Also a couple of notable Algerians. One player who i never had the pleasure of being alongside, who was possibly the best i was at school with was Brian Turner.
Quote from: rich1471 on March 16, 2023, 11:19:35 pmQuote from: Campsall rover on March 16, 2023, 12:26:58 pmBest player I ever played with was Brian Pollard at York City. He was a right winger. Quick and skilful. Similar to Windy Miller was at Rovers.Northern Intermediate League 1972/73 Brian played in a couple of games i played in that season.He was in the 1st team quite a bit that season aged 19 Best player played against was Joe Cook at Bradford City. Same season 72/73 same league. Scored 2 goals ( 1 a pen ) against me at Valley Parade.Striker who went on to have a good career at Bradford City, Peterborough Utd and others.Best player who never fulfilled his true potential. Well one of them was ( yes I am bias ) was my younger step son Neil Illman who at age 16/18 was an extremely talented player. A left winger or striker.Steve Beaglehole took him to Middlesbrough when he went there as youth coach and Bruce Ricoh who was manager was very impressed with him after watching him in the U18s Played 4 games for Middlesbrough in 2nd tier. 20 odd for Plymouth Argyle in 3rd tier and then Northwich Victoria and Stevenage in the Conference. Scored against Rovers for the Vicks at Drill field in a 3-2 win for Rovers. ( I let him off seeing we won ) He also played 2 games for Rovers when Ian Snodin was manager.Never fulfilled his potential though. Not sure what went wrong. Bit of immaturity I think and a pillock of a coach at Boro called Ray Train ( played for Carlisle & Walsall ) didn’t help, who never praised him only criticised. How can you be slated for scoring a goal from 30 yards. Top corner of net v Preston foe reserves. Told in no uncertain manor that he should have passed the ball. This happened all the time. Bernie Slaven tore into this coach after one reserve game at Wigan after Neil scored the winner in last 5 mins. For reason stated above. Being bias again, my older step son Mark Illman also never fulfilled his potential, but that was mainly due to a bad Achilles tendon injury. He scored 21 goals in 19 games for Rovers Northern Intermediate League team in 1989/90 aged 17 Bremner who was back at Rovers wanted to sign him Pro contract but due to budget restrictions wasn’t able to. Went to Chesterfield and picked as sub, debut for 1st team away at Cambridge in 3rd tier. Paul Hart was manager, Chris McMenemy coach, ( Laurie’s son ) Dave Rushbury was Physio.Then picked up bad injury. Lost confidence and motivation. He should have had a career in the EFL There are hundreds though, thousands over the years who should have made it that didn’t. Some who played lower league pro football who had the ability to be Premier league players. Some who only played non league who with a bit of luck could have played in the football League. Player at Rovers who springs to mind & didn’t fulfil his potential was Andy Watson. A winger who Ian and Glynn pulled from obscurity at Garforth Town. He was one of many wasted talents I have seen over the years. Apologies for such a long ramble. played with Neil in the school team and there was some very good players in that team ,Adi moses who played for Barnsley, But a young lad called Gerrard Ring went to Forrest under Brian Clough but he decided to pack it in and become a solicitor but if he stuck at it could have played for England he really was that good ,Also played with Mark at Sunday league level ,both were very good players.That Norton United team from the mid 80s really had some talented players. Arguably the best was a lad called Nicky Towel, you just couldnt get the ball off him, but he had issues sadly. Adi Moses was no where the best out of those players, but he made it, mainly due to his outstanding attitude and application. Gez Ring, Johnny White, Nicky Towel, Neil Illman, Adi Moses etc, really had talent.
Quote from: rich1471 on March 16, 2023, 11:19:35 pmQuote from: Campsall rover on March 16, 2023, 12:26:58 pmBest player I ever played with was Brian Pollard at York City. He was a right winger. Quick and skilful. Similar to Windy Miller was at Rovers.Northern Intermediate League 1972/73 Brian played in a couple of games i played in that season.He was in the 1st team quite a bit that season aged 19 Best player played against was Joe Cook at Bradford City. Same season 72/73 same league. Scored 2 goals ( 1 a pen ) against me at Valley Parade.Striker who went on to have a good career at Bradford City, Peterborough Utd and others.Best player who never fulfilled his true potential. Well one of them was ( yes I am bias ) was my younger step son Neil Illman who at age 16/18 was an extremely talented player. A left winger or striker.Steve Beaglehole took him to Middlesbrough when he went there as youth coach and Bruce Ricoh who was manager was very impressed with him after watching him in the U18s Played 4 games for Middlesbrough in 2nd tier. 20 odd for Plymouth Argyle in 3rd tier and then Northwich Victoria and Stevenage in the Conference. Scored against Rovers for the Vicks at Drill field in a 3-2 win for Rovers. ( I let him off seeing we won ) He also played 2 games for Rovers when Ian Snodin was manager.Never fulfilled his potential though. Not sure what went wrong. Bit of immaturity I think and a pillock of a coach at Boro called Ray Train ( played for Carlisle & Walsall ) didn’t help, who never praised him only criticised. How can you be slated for scoring a goal from 30 yards. Top corner of net v Preston foe reserves. Told in no uncertain manor that he should have passed the ball. This happened all the time. Bernie Slaven tore into this coach after one reserve game at Wigan after Neil scored the winner in last 5 mins. For reason stated above. Being bias again, my older step son Mark Illman also never fulfilled his potential, but that was mainly due to a bad Achilles tendon injury. He scored 21 goals in 19 games for Rovers Northern Intermediate League team in 1989/90 aged 17 Bremner who was back at Rovers wanted to sign him Pro contract but due to budget restrictions wasn’t able to. Went to Chesterfield and picked as sub, debut for 1st team away at Cambridge in 3rd tier. Paul Hart was manager, Chris McMenemy coach, ( Laurie’s son ) Dave Rushbury was Physio.Then picked up bad injury. Lost confidence and motivation. He should have had a career in the EFL There are hundreds though, thousands over the years who should have made it that didn’t. Some who played lower league pro football who had the ability to be Premier league players. Some who only played non league who with a bit of luck could have played in the football League. Player at Rovers who springs to mind & didn’t fulfil his potential was Andy Watson. A winger who Ian and Glynn pulled from obscurity at Garforth Town. He was one of many wasted talents I have seen over the years. Apologies for such a long ramble. played with Neil in the school team and there was some very good players in that team ,Adi moses who played for Barnsley, But a young lad called Gerrard Ring went to Forrest under Brian Clough but he decided to pack it in and become a solicitor but if he stuck at it could have played for England he really was that good ,Also played with Mark at Sunday league level ,both were very good players.That Norton United team from the mid 80s really had some talented players. Arguably the best was a lad called Nicky Towel, you just couldnt get the ball off him, but he had issues sadly. Adi Moses was no where the best out of those players, but he made it, mainly due to his outstanding attitude and application. Gez Ring, Johnny White, Nicky Towel, Neil Illman, Adi Moses etc, really had talent.
Quote from: Campsall rover on March 16, 2023, 12:26:58 pmBest player I ever played with was Brian Pollard at York City. He was a right winger. Quick and skilful. Similar to Windy Miller was at Rovers.Northern Intermediate League 1972/73 Brian played in a couple of games i played in that season.He was in the 1st team quite a bit that season aged 19 Best player played against was Joe Cook at Bradford City. Same season 72/73 same league. Scored 2 goals ( 1 a pen ) against me at Valley Parade.Striker who went on to have a good career at Bradford City, Peterborough Utd and others.Best player who never fulfilled his true potential. Well one of them was ( yes I am bias ) was my younger step son Neil Illman who at age 16/18 was an extremely talented player. A left winger or striker.Steve Beaglehole took him to Middlesbrough when he went there as youth coach and Bruce Ricoh who was manager was very impressed with him after watching him in the U18s Played 4 games for Middlesbrough in 2nd tier. 20 odd for Plymouth Argyle in 3rd tier and then Northwich Victoria and Stevenage in the Conference. Scored against Rovers for the Vicks at Drill field in a 3-2 win for Rovers. ( I let him off seeing we won ) He also played 2 games for Rovers when Ian Snodin was manager.Never fulfilled his potential though. Not sure what went wrong. Bit of immaturity I think and a pillock of a coach at Boro called Ray Train ( played for Carlisle & Walsall ) didn’t help, who never praised him only criticised. How can you be slated for scoring a goal from 30 yards. Top corner of net v Preston foe reserves. Told in no uncertain manor that he should have passed the ball. This happened all the time. Bernie Slaven tore into this coach after one reserve game at Wigan after Neil scored the winner in last 5 mins. For reason stated above. Being bias again, my older step son Mark Illman also never fulfilled his potential, but that was mainly due to a bad Achilles tendon injury. He scored 21 goals in 19 games for Rovers Northern Intermediate League team in 1989/90 aged 17 Bremner who was back at Rovers wanted to sign him Pro contract but due to budget restrictions wasn’t able to. Went to Chesterfield and picked as sub, debut for 1st team away at Cambridge in 3rd tier. Paul Hart was manager, Chris McMenemy coach, ( Laurie’s son ) Dave Rushbury was Physio.Then picked up bad injury. Lost confidence and motivation. He should have had a career in the EFL There are hundreds though, thousands over the years who should have made it that didn’t. Some who played lower league pro football who had the ability to be Premier league players. Some who only played non league who with a bit of luck could have played in the football League. Player at Rovers who springs to mind & didn’t fulfil his potential was Andy Watson. A winger who Ian and Glynn pulled from obscurity at Garforth Town. He was one of many wasted talents I have seen over the years. Apologies for such a long ramble. played with Neil in the school team and there was some very good players in that team ,Adi moses who played for Barnsley, But a young lad called Gerrard Ring went to Forrest under Brian Clough but he decided to pack it in and become a solicitor but if he stuck at it could have played for England he really was that good ,Also played with Mark at Sunday league level ,both were very good players.
Best player I ever played with was Brian Pollard at York City. He was a right winger. Quick and skilful. Similar to Windy Miller was at Rovers.Northern Intermediate League 1972/73 Brian played in a couple of games i played in that season.He was in the 1st team quite a bit that season aged 19 Best player played against was Joe Cook at Bradford City. Same season 72/73 same league. Scored 2 goals ( 1 a pen ) against me at Valley Parade.Striker who went on to have a good career at Bradford City, Peterborough Utd and others.Best player who never fulfilled his true potential. Well one of them was ( yes I am bias ) was my younger step son Neil Illman who at age 16/18 was an extremely talented player. A left winger or striker.Steve Beaglehole took him to Middlesbrough when he went there as youth coach and Bruce Ricoh who was manager was very impressed with him after watching him in the U18s Played 4 games for Middlesbrough in 2nd tier. 20 odd for Plymouth Argyle in 3rd tier and then Northwich Victoria and Stevenage in the Conference. Scored against Rovers for the Vicks at Drill field in a 3-2 win for Rovers. ( I let him off seeing we won ) He also played 2 games for Rovers when Ian Snodin was manager.Never fulfilled his potential though. Not sure what went wrong. Bit of immaturity I think and a pillock of a coach at Boro called Ray Train ( played for Carlisle & Walsall ) didn’t help, who never praised him only criticised. How can you be slated for scoring a goal from 30 yards. Top corner of net v Preston foe reserves. Told in no uncertain manor that he should have passed the ball. This happened all the time. Bernie Slaven tore into this coach after one reserve game at Wigan after Neil scored the winner in last 5 mins. For reason stated above. Being bias again, my older step son Mark Illman also never fulfilled his potential, but that was mainly due to a bad Achilles tendon injury. He scored 21 goals in 19 games for Rovers Northern Intermediate League team in 1989/90 aged 17 Bremner who was back at Rovers wanted to sign him Pro contract but due to budget restrictions wasn’t able to. Went to Chesterfield and picked as sub, debut for 1st team away at Cambridge in 3rd tier. Paul Hart was manager, Chris McMenemy coach, ( Laurie’s son ) Dave Rushbury was Physio.Then picked up bad injury. Lost confidence and motivation. He should have had a career in the EFL There are hundreds though, thousands over the years who should have made it that didn’t. Some who played lower league pro football who had the ability to be Premier league players. Some who only played non league who with a bit of luck could have played in the football League. Player at Rovers who springs to mind & didn’t fulfil his potential was Andy Watson. A winger who Ian and Glynn pulled from obscurity at Garforth Town. He was one of many wasted talents I have seen over the years. Apologies for such a long ramble.
Quote from: Alickismyhero on March 17, 2023, 08:53:00 amQuote from: Wild Rover on March 17, 2023, 01:05:30 amQuote from: Alickismyhero on March 16, 2023, 08:49:15 pmQuote from: Wild Rover on March 16, 2023, 12:59:09 pmI thought it was "played with" not "against", but if against counts Kevin Keegan ( 3 times) Malcolm Webster (3 times) Trevor Hickson (4 times) Jim Golze ( just the once) Also a couple of notable Algerians. One player who i never had the pleasure of being alongside, who was possibly the best i was at school with was Brian Turner.WR,I think I must have been in the year ahead of you at school.I played with Brian Turner a very good CH. He did actually play for Donny Boys, but KK never did.The coach at the time was Ken Howard, my form master, who's claim to fame was that he never ever played KK yet he was in the Donny Boys squad. At Stainforth Sec 1962 - 1967 Same class as Ken Shaw, Gary Nesbitt, John Bytheway. Dave Roebuck, Roy nixon, Peter Furr Billy Liddle, Billy Main, Ian GregoryYes I remember playing football with Gary Nesbitt, big John Bytheway, Dave Roebuck, Peter Furr, little Billy Liddle. I was the year ahead 61 -_66, with my birthday being 31/8 one day later I would have been in your year!I was very bitter with Mr Smith I never got a look in for a game for the school until Mr Jones took over the school teams. I eventually started to play for the 3rd and 4th year teams. Our Headmaster, whos name I forget, got me 6 trial games at Donny. after the 6th game Donny never had the decency to say "sorry son your not good enough".On reflection I left for college in London, played football twice a week, had my 18th birthday playing football in Germany. My dream of playing football for Donny would never have been, too many injuries. I now sit here with 5 different fractures to the right ankle which I am pleased to say has been successfully screwed back together again.I enjoyed my football while it lasted.RIP Russell Yeats, Billy Lockwood, Greg Parsonage, Ray Yeardly. Mates I played football with.The headmaster was Mr Allinson . I knew Ray Yeardley had passed on but not the others.
Quote from: Wild Rover on March 17, 2023, 01:05:30 amQuote from: Alickismyhero on March 16, 2023, 08:49:15 pmQuote from: Wild Rover on March 16, 2023, 12:59:09 pmI thought it was "played with" not "against", but if against counts Kevin Keegan ( 3 times) Malcolm Webster (3 times) Trevor Hickson (4 times) Jim Golze ( just the once) Also a couple of notable Algerians. One player who i never had the pleasure of being alongside, who was possibly the best i was at school with was Brian Turner.WR,I think I must have been in the year ahead of you at school.I played with Brian Turner a very good CH. He did actually play for Donny Boys, but KK never did.The coach at the time was Ken Howard, my form master, who's claim to fame was that he never ever played KK yet he was in the Donny Boys squad. At Stainforth Sec 1962 - 1967 Same class as Ken Shaw, Gary Nesbitt, John Bytheway. Dave Roebuck, Roy nixon, Peter Furr Billy Liddle, Billy Main, Ian GregoryYes I remember playing football with Gary Nesbitt, big John Bytheway, Dave Roebuck, Peter Furr, little Billy Liddle. I was the year ahead 61 -_66, with my birthday being 31/8 one day later I would have been in your year!I was very bitter with Mr Smith I never got a look in for a game for the school until Mr Jones took over the school teams. I eventually started to play for the 3rd and 4th year teams. Our Headmaster, whos name I forget, got me 6 trial games at Donny. after the 6th game Donny never had the decency to say "sorry son your not good enough".On reflection I left for college in London, played football twice a week, had my 18th birthday playing football in Germany. My dream of playing football for Donny would never have been, too many injuries. I now sit here with 5 different fractures to the right ankle which I am pleased to say has been successfully screwed back together again.I enjoyed my football while it lasted.RIP Russell Yeats, Billy Lockwood, Greg Parsonage, Ray Yeardly. Mates I played football with.
Quote from: Alickismyhero on March 16, 2023, 08:49:15 pmQuote from: Wild Rover on March 16, 2023, 12:59:09 pmI thought it was "played with" not "against", but if against counts Kevin Keegan ( 3 times) Malcolm Webster (3 times) Trevor Hickson (4 times) Jim Golze ( just the once) Also a couple of notable Algerians. One player who i never had the pleasure of being alongside, who was possibly the best i was at school with was Brian Turner.WR,I think I must have been in the year ahead of you at school.I played with Brian Turner a very good CH. He did actually play for Donny Boys, but KK never did.The coach at the time was Ken Howard, my form master, who's claim to fame was that he never ever played KK yet he was in the Donny Boys squad. At Stainforth Sec 1962 - 1967 Same class as Ken Shaw, Gary Nesbitt, John Bytheway. Dave Roebuck, Roy nixon, Peter Furr Billy Liddle, Billy Main, Ian Gregory
Quote from: Wild Rover on March 16, 2023, 12:59:09 pmI thought it was "played with" not "against", but if against counts Kevin Keegan ( 3 times) Malcolm Webster (3 times) Trevor Hickson (4 times) Jim Golze ( just the once) Also a couple of notable Algerians. One player who i never had the pleasure of being alongside, who was possibly the best i was at school with was Brian Turner.WR,I think I must have been in the year ahead of you at school.I played with Brian Turner a very good CH. He did actually play for Donny Boys, but KK never did.The coach at the time was Ken Howard, my form master, who's claim to fame was that he never ever played KK yet he was in the Donny Boys squad.
I thought it was "played with" not "against", but if against counts Kevin Keegan ( 3 times) Malcolm Webster (3 times) Trevor Hickson (4 times) Jim Golze ( just the once) Also a couple of notable Algerians. One player who i never had the pleasure of being alongside, who was possibly the best i was at school with was Brian Turner.
Quote from: Campsall rover on March 16, 2023, 01:05:58 pmQuote from: Bessie Red on March 16, 2023, 12:54:18 pmDave Rushbury, John Buckley and Denis Peacock. Played in a team where Denis was our Centre Forward, he bagged loads.John Buckley is the best of the 3, couldnt get ball off him & he would make you look stupid if you tried!JB was a very talented player. Dave Rushbury was a very decent left back. Dennis Peacock was a solid Keeper. His kicking was a bit wayward if my memory serves me correctly.When you think about it we have had some very decent wingers over the years. Ian Miller, John Buckley, Francis Tierney, McIndoe, Cotterill, Coppinger. Those who saw Rovers in the 50’s & 60’s no doubt could name some more.That's right, Camps. Ronnie Walker on the left wing, and Johnny Mooney on the right wing for the 1956/57 team that included Gregg, Alick, and Tindill.Probably the greatest Rovers team ever.
Quote from: Bessie Red on March 16, 2023, 12:54:18 pmDave Rushbury, John Buckley and Denis Peacock. Played in a team where Denis was our Centre Forward, he bagged loads.John Buckley is the best of the 3, couldnt get ball off him & he would make you look stupid if you tried!JB was a very talented player. Dave Rushbury was a very decent left back. Dennis Peacock was a solid Keeper. His kicking was a bit wayward if my memory serves me correctly.When you think about it we have had some very decent wingers over the years. Ian Miller, John Buckley, Francis Tierney, McIndoe, Cotterill, Coppinger. Those who saw Rovers in the 50’s & 60’s no doubt could name some more.
Dave Rushbury, John Buckley and Denis Peacock. Played in a team where Denis was our Centre Forward, he bagged loads.John Buckley is the best of the 3, couldnt get ball off him & he would make you look stupid if you tried!
Quote from: Wild Rover on March 17, 2023, 09:34:52 amQuote from: Alickismyhero on March 17, 2023, 08:53:00 amQuote from: Wild Rover on March 17, 2023, 01:05:30 amQuote from: Alickismyhero on March 16, 2023, 08:49:15 pmQuote from: Wild Rover on March 16, 2023, 12:59:09 pmI thought it was "played with" not "against", but if against counts Kevin Keegan ( 3 times) Malcolm Webster (3 times) Trevor Hickson (4 times) Jim Golze ( just the once) Also a couple of notable Algerians. One player who i never had the pleasure of being alongside, who was possibly the best i was at school with was Brian Turner.WR,I think I must have been in the year ahead of you at school.I played with Brian Turner a very good CH. He did actually play for Donny Boys, but KK never did.The coach at the time was Ken Howard, my form master, who's claim to fame was that he never ever played KK yet he was in the Donny Boys squad. At Stainforth Sec 1962 - 1967 Same class as Ken Shaw, Gary Nesbitt, John Bytheway. Dave Roebuck, Roy nixon, Peter Furr Billy Liddle, Billy Main, Ian GregoryYes I remember playing football with Gary Nesbitt, big John Bytheway, Dave Roebuck, Peter Furr, little Billy Liddle. I was the year ahead 61 -_66, with my birthday being 31/8 one day later I would have been in your year!I was very bitter with Mr Smith I never got a look in for a game for the school until Mr Jones took over the school teams. I eventually started to play for the 3rd and 4th year teams. Our Headmaster, whos name I forget, got me 6 trial games at Donny. after the 6th game Donny never had the decency to say "sorry son your not good enough".On reflection I left for college in London, played football twice a week, had my 18th birthday playing football in Germany. My dream of playing football for Donny would never have been, too many injuries. I now sit here with 5 different fractures to the right ankle which I am pleased to say has been successfully screwed back together again.I enjoyed my football while it lasted.RIP Russell Yeats, Billy Lockwood, Greg Parsonage, Ray Yeardly. Mates I played football with.The headmaster was Mr Allinson . I knew Ray Yeardley had passed on but not the others.WR,Yes thats the name, Mr Allison.I don't remember Kenny Shaw playing football but was he fast over 100yds? RIP Kenny
Quote from: Alickismyhero on March 17, 2023, 08:53:00 amQuote from: Wild Rover on March 17, 2023, 01:05:30 amQuote from: Alickismyhero on March 16, 2023, 08:49:15 pmQuote from: Wild Rover on March 16, 2023, 12:59:09 pmI thought it was "played with" not "against", but if against counts Kevin Keegan ( 3 times) Malcolm Webster (3 times) Trevor Hickson (4 times) Jim Golze ( just the once) Also a couple of notable Algerians. One player who i never had the pleasure of being alongside, who was possibly the best i was at school with was Brian Turner.WR,I think I must have been in the year ahead of you at school.I played with Brian Turner a very good CH. He did actually play for Donny Boys, but KK never did.The coach at the time was Ken Howard, my form master, who's claim to fame was that he never ever played KK yet he was in the Donny Boys squad. At Stainforth Sec 1962 - 1967 Same class as Ken Shaw, Gary Nesbitt, John Bytheway. Dave Roebuck, Roy nixon, Peter Furr Billy Liddle, Billy Main, Ian GregoryYes I remember playing football with Gary Nesbitt, big John Bytheway, Dave Roebuck, Peter Furr, little Billy Liddle. I was the year ahead 61 -_66, with my birthday being 31/8 one day later I would have been in your year!I was very bitter with Mr Smith I never got a look in for a game for the school until Mr Jones took over the school teams. I eventually started to play for the 3rd and 4th year teams. Our Headmaster, whos name I forget, got me 6 trial games at Donny. after the 6th game Donny never had the decency to say "sorry son your not good enough".On reflection I left for college in London, played football twice a week, had my 18th birthday playing football in Germany. My dream of playing football for Donny would never have been, too many injuries. I now sit here with 5 different fractures to the right ankle which I am pleased to say has been successfully screwed back together again.I enjoyed my football while it lasted.RIP Russell Yeats, Billy Lockwood, Greg Parsonage, Ray Yeardly. Mates I played football with.The headmaster was Mr Allinson . I knew Ray Yeardley had passed on but not the others.
Quote from: Wild Rover on March 17, 2023, 01:05:30 amQuote from: Alickismyhero on March 16, 2023, 08:49:15 pmQuote from: Wild Rover on March 16, 2023, 12:59:09 pmI thought it was "played with" not "against", but if against counts Kevin Keegan ( 3 times) Malcolm Webster (3 times) Trevor Hickson (4 times) Jim Golze ( just the once) Also a couple of notable Algerians. One player who i never had the pleasure of being alongside, who was possibly the best i was at school with was Brian Turner.WR,I think I must have been in the year ahead of you at school.I played with Brian Turner a very good CH. He did actually play for Donny Boys, but KK never did.The coach at the time was Ken Howard, my form master, who's claim to fame was that he never ever played KK yet he was in the Donny Boys squad. At Stainforth Sec 1962 - 1967 Same class as Ken Shaw, Gary Nesbitt, John Bytheway. Dave Roebuck, Roy nixon, Peter Furr Billy Liddle, Billy Main, Ian GregoryYes I remember playing football with Gary Nesbitt, big John Bytheway, Dave Roebuck, Peter Furr, little Billy Liddle. I was the year ahead 61 -_66, with my birthday being 31/8 one day later I would have been in your year!I was very bitter with Mr Smith I never got a look in for a game for the school until Mr Jones took over the school teams. I eventually started to play for the 3rd and 4th year teams. Our Headmaster, whos name I forget, got me 6 trial games at Donny. after the 6th game Donny never had the decency to say "sorry son your not good enough".On reflection I left for college in London, played football twice a week, had my 18th birthday playing football in Germany. My dream of playing football for Donny would never have been, too many injuries. I now sit here with 5 different fractures to the right ankle which I am pleased to say has been successfully screwed back together again.I enjoyed my football while it lasted.RIP Russell Yeats, Billy Lockwood, Greg Parsonage, Ray Yeardly. Mates I played football with.
Quote from: Alickismyhero on March 16, 2023, 08:49:15 pmQuote from: Wild Rover on March 16, 2023, 12:59:09 pmI thought it was "played with" not "against", but if against counts Kevin Keegan ( 3 times) Malcolm Webster (3 times) Trevor Hickson (4 times) Jim Golze ( just the once) Also a couple of notable Algerians. One player who i never had the pleasure of being alongside, who was possibly the best i was at school with was Brian Turner.WR,I think I must have been in the year ahead of you at school.I played with Brian Turner a very good CH. He did actually play for Donny Boys, but KK never did.The coach at the time was Ken Howard, my form master, who's claim to fame was that he never ever played KK yet he was in the Donny Boys squad. At Stainforth Sec 1962 - 1967 Same class as Ken Shaw, Gary Nesbitt, John Bytheway. Dave Roebuck, Roy nixon, Peter Furr Billy Liddle, Billy Main, Ian Gregory
Quote from: Wild Rover on March 16, 2023, 12:59:09 pmI thought it was "played with" not "against", but if against counts Kevin Keegan ( 3 times) Malcolm Webster (3 times) Trevor Hickson (4 times) Jim Golze ( just the once) Also a couple of notable Algerians. One player who i never had the pleasure of being alongside, who was possibly the best i was at school with was Brian Turner.WR,I think I must have been in the year ahead of you at school.I played with Brian Turner a very good CH. He did actually play for Donny Boys, but KK never did.The coach at the time was Ken Howard, my form master, who's claim to fame was that he never ever played KK yet he was in the Donny Boys squad.
I thought it was "played with" not "against", but if against counts Kevin Keegan ( 3 times) Malcolm Webster (3 times) Trevor Hickson (4 times) Jim Golze ( just the once) Also a couple of notable Algerians. One player who i never had the pleasure of being alongside, who was possibly the best i was at school with was Brian Turner.
Wolfie once told me that, long before my time, Scawsby Steve used to idolise Johnny Mooney. He said Steve used to try to copy the way Mooney played. Wolfie said he was watching Steve play once and he was setting himself up for a shot, so he shouted "come on Steve, give us a Mooney."Apparently, Steve misunderstood the request and exposed his big hairy arse to all and sundry.
Not a footballer I know but I played darts with Eric Bristow on a north sea ferry. As you would expect he battered me, with no mercy!
School age growing up would poss be Gez ring went to north forest as a youngster but think he had other issues and didn’t really make it . Other two that have played in same team one if not both as ringers lol would be adie Moses and Neil Illmam while I was playing at askern While at cricket played against joe root and now test umpire Richard kettlebrough who both played for Sheffield collegiate
Quote from: German Rover on March 17, 2023, 02:02:59 pmNot a footballer I know but I played darts with Eric Bristow on a north sea ferry. As you would expect he battered me, with no mercy!I was on a North Sea ferry, when Bristow, Dellar, Lewis and another I can’t remember were doing an exibition, Bristow was my darts hero until I spoke with him and realised what an arrogant t**t he was