John Ryan on facebook

[bpoolrover]

Don't get me wrong, I appreciate what he did too. But the last thing I want for Rovers is a Chairman who lies to the fans, no matter how charismatic he is.

have we not got a chairman now that tells little porkies about the budget

[redarmi66]

Don't get me wrong, I appreciate what he did too. But the last thing I want for Rovers is a Chairman who lies to the fans, no matter how charismatic he is.

have we not got a chairman now that tells little porkies about the budget

Possibly! and not aware of any charisma either

[karldew]

“Having just been made aware of the Viking sites criticism of myself from grammar to iffy business man all I can say is shame Andy Liney is no longer with us.Just remember 4 promotions including 2 titles and beating Leesds at wembley plus winning Johnson Paints at Cardiff all under my 15 years as Chairman not bad and yet all they can see is negatives.No wonder noone seems interested in DRFC”

Another update from JR after the post yesterday

[ravenrover]

These fans that are slagging him off were back in the day singing “one John Ryan” at every game. Fickle.

He is a fan just like the rest of us and is worried about the state of the club again just like the rest of us!

I never sang ‘one John Ryan’, although I certainly respect some of what he did for the club.

But, we shouldn’t ignore the negative things, like threatening supporters with libel, the experiment, the playing himself thing, the VC firm takeovers, and the constant stream of over the top pronouncements (both positive and negative). I was always worried about his temperament and felt he was one strop away from leaving us in the lurch…which eventually happened.

Despite what the ‘internet thinks’, two things can be true at once. He did really good things, and some less than good things in my opinion.

You don’t need to break everything down to for or against.

He left allowing TB and DW to take full control of the reigns because basically,they could not agree how to take the club forward and how to run it,different opinions,different ideals,further more he wrote off his loans,that is NOT leaving us in the lurch,If he left us with no one else responsible enough to take control then that would be leaving us in the lurch! He made some mistakes,especially close to him leaving,but we all do,he doe'snt deserve to be persecuted at any easy chance,as neither does Terry Bramhall.

Allowing? I think you mean leaving them to try and sort out the mess left after the "experiment"

[Padge_DRFC]

Let's be honest 17 VSC members don't represent DRFC or whatever the pathetic amount is these days.
Should have a section on this forum for all those in denial about the plonkers running this club into the ground.
For everyone criticising his grammar, how is your bank balance and life this morning in comparison to his?

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

And therein lies the thing with JR he puts out a second post about him. He just has to be divisive and let his ego get in the way.  Where's he been since he lost control of the club?  How many games has he attended?

He made a great point on the current predicament yesterday and that gets lost by making something about himself and "his" achievements (conveniently forgetting the current owners put in substantially for all that).

He has as much of an ability and answer to it as the rest of us, none!

He has a good legacy, despite the issues towards the end.  He should leave it as that before he taints it further.

[scawsby steve]

Ryan wanted to flog us off to a dodgy hedge fund and foisted the 'Experiment' on us designed by Willie McKay. Yes Ryan was the talisman back in the dark days but that was in contrast to Richardson who was a criminal and gangster!!! JR, in my opinion is an iffy businessman just like all of them. Ludicrous breast implants that nobody really needs is a shocking way to make your millions. I really want us to be independent of all those kind of characters.

I take it then that you're happy with Blunt as Chairman?

[scawsby steve]

Don't get me wrong, I appreciate what he did too. But the last thing I want for Rovers is a Chairman who lies to the fans, no matter how charismatic he is.

"We'll bounce back decisively"

You mean truthful statements like that?

[Bentley Bullet]

With just 1 point from the first 7 games that season, and with the lowest budget in the league, I think, call it experiment or anything you like, something needed doing drastically.

[scawsby steve]

OK, guys, I'll tell you what's gone wrong with this thread. It's been made into a synopsis of the character and personality of JR.

What it's really about is whether or not his comments about Blunt being a poor chairman are correct.

I think the vast majority of Rovers fans on here and elsewhere will agree that JR is spot on.

[EasyforDennis]

And therein lies the thing with JR he puts out a second post about him. He just has to be divisive and let his ego get in the way.  Where's he been since he lost control of the club?  How many games has he attended?

He made a great point on the current predicament yesterday and that gets lost by making something about himself and "his" achievements (conveniently forgetting the current owners put in substantially for all that).

He has as much of an ability and answer to it as the rest of us, none!

He has a good legacy, despite the issues towards the end.  He should leave it as that before he taints it further.

ONE of the current owners put in a substantial amount. That cannot be said of the other 2!!

[dickos1]

They’re employees of the club, why would they?

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

They’re employees of the club, why would they?

Well they do own just under a third each so it is a fair point. But they're meaningless shares really unless the club is sold then they could if it sold for money (unlikely) be in a good position.

[Branton Red]

As a Rovers fan you'd have to be the most extraordinary ingrate to criticise John Ryan.

After where he took the club from and to; all the money he invested; all the success he oversaw; and all the great times we as Rovers fans enjoyed thanks to his investment, ambition and leadership.

Sorry for any offence but a minority of you are just coming across as a bunch of ungrateful pillocks IMO.

[Glyn_Wigley]

As a Rovers fan you'd have to be the most extraordinary ingrate to criticise John Ryan.

After where he took the club from and to; all the money he invested; all the success he oversaw; and all the great times we as Rovers fans enjoyed thanks to his investment, ambition and leadership.

Sorry for any offence but a minority of you are just coming across as a bunch of ungrateful pillocks IMO.

I haven't seen anyone be ungrateful for the good times, where have you been looking?

[Bentley Bullet]

It's all kicked off on the Facebook site. This forum is getting a bit of a bashing.

[DRFCTom]

Don't get me wrong, I appreciate what he did too. But the last thing I want for Rovers is a Chairman who lies to the fans, no matter how charismatic he is.

Would you rather a complete mute who is currently driving our beloved club into the ground for a chairman then?

[Glyn_Wigley]

Don't get me wrong, I appreciate what he did too. But the last thing I want for Rovers is a Chairman who lies to the fans, no matter how charismatic he is.

Would you rather a complete mute who is currently driving our beloved club into the ground for a chairman then?

Since when has it been either/or?

How about suggesting which current EFL Chairman you'd like ours to be like?

[TommyC]

In those comments John seems to be conflating this site as a whole with the entire VSC organisation. Clearly that's not true as many of us post on here without being VSC members or alligned with the views of the VSC.

Having said that, I've only just remembered how much he apprently dislikes the VSC, presumably because they opposed him on the sale and the proposed takeover. The comment about Andy Liney seems very pointed and from the general tone of that post, he's clearly still bitter towards the VSC in its current form. Time doesn't seem to have been a great healer in this case!

[wilts rover]

Said it before and I will say it again, I think John Ryan's most long lasting legacy will be the division of the fan base over the way he left.

Good luck with the policy of attacking the current owners because you never wanted him to leave. Because you always give the people slagging you off what they want don't you.

[Chris Black come back]

He’s a great man who did great things and in that period from 1998 to 2006 carried the burden with Peter Wetzel and delivered huge success and let’s not forget with others, convinced DMBC to deliver us a brand new stadium free of charge. Some of the success came through money but most of it through sheer force of will, enthusiasm, energy and passion.

As I’ve said before, he was a great man for us but even the greatest men are flawed. 

[Campsall rover]

Are theses posts actually coming from JR himself.

Do we have evidence they are.

If his Twitter account has been hacked as someone said it had then how do we know this is not an impersonator.

I am a little sceptical that this is JR posting personally.

I think we need evidence before we make any comments on his supposed thoughts and opinions.

One thing we do know is he will be looking at the current situation with a great deal of sadness as he is a genuine fan just the same as we all are.

[Campsall rover]

I don’t think we should be getting obsessed with what JR is or is not saying.
What I think we should be focused on is the deafening silence coming from our current Chairman.

We need action from him, not a few empty words with no substance at MTO meetings twice a year.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

In those comments John seems to be conflating this site as a whole with the entire VSC organisation. Clearly that's not true as many of us post on here without being VSC members or alligned with the views of the VSC.

Having said that, I've only just remembered how much he apprently dislikes the VSC, presumably because they opposed him on the sale and the proposed takeover. The comment about Andy Liney seems very pointed and from the general tone of that post, he's clearly still bitter towards the VSC in its current form. Time doesn't seem to have been a great healer in this case!

Yes, quite an irony when the vast majority of comments on this forum and thread are supportive of him. Not the first time he's attempted to slur some of those who were his greatest supporters just because the VSC as an organisation sought the truth and asked questions about the validity of the takeovers. Much of the discrediting of TB & the VSC at the time came from a certain Irish tactical mastermind in business of course. They both had ample opportunity to come clean and tell all fans the truth but chose to 'mislead' instead.

The fanning of those flames doesn't help the current situation particularly from those who can't wait to tell John "Look what their saying about you".

He's very welcome to put his opinions forward like the rest of us but how is it helping apart from stoking up the toxicity against one man?

[DRFCTom]

Some of the comments towards JR on here IMO are disgraceful, no chairman is perfect but I think I speak for most on here that we’d do anything to have the JR days back. He had ambition, he had vision and it’s no coincidence we had lots of success in his tenure.

Anyone slating JR must have short memories and should be ashamed of themselves

[Bentley Bullet]

In those comments John seems to be conflating this site as a whole with the entire VSC organisation. Clearly that's not true as many of us post on here without being VSC members or alligned with the views of the VSC.

Having said that, I've only just remembered how much he apprently dislikes the VSC, presumably because they opposed him on the sale and the proposed takeover. The comment about Andy Liney seems very pointed and from the general tone of that post, he's clearly still bitter towards the VSC in its current form. Time doesn't seem to have been a great healer in this case!

Yes, quite an irony when the vast majority of comments on this forum and thread are supportive of him. Not the first time he's attempted to slur some of those who were his greatest supporters just because the VSC as an organisation sought the truth and asked questions about the validity of the takeovers. Much of the discrediting of TB & the VSC at the time came from a certain Irish tactical mastermind in business of course. They both had ample opportunity to come clean and tell all fans the truth but chose to 'mislead' instead.

The fanning of those flames doesn't help the current situation particularly from those who can't wait to tell John "Look what their saying about you".

He's very welcome to put his opinions forward like the rest of us but how is it helping apart from stoking up the toxicity against one man?

I reckon if I'd forked out millions of my own money to resurrect the club and get it to the highest position in 50 years, just to see it decline back towards its original lowest position, I'd be so much more pissed off even than I am now, as a mere season ticket holder.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

In those comments John seems to be conflating this site as a whole with the entire VSC organisation. Clearly that's not true as many of us post on here without being VSC members or alligned with the views of the VSC.

Having said that, I've only just remembered how much he apprently dislikes the VSC, presumably because they opposed him on the sale and the proposed takeover. The comment about Andy Liney seems very pointed and from the general tone of that post, he's clearly still bitter towards the VSC in its current form. Time doesn't seem to have been a great healer in this case!

Yes, quite an irony when the vast majority of comments on this forum and thread are supportive of him. Not the first time he's attempted to slur some of those who were his greatest supporters just because the VSC as an organisation sought the truth and asked questions about the validity of the takeovers. Much of the discrediting of TB & the VSC at the time came from a certain Irish tactical mastermind in business of course. They both had ample opportunity to come clean and tell all fans the truth but chose to 'mislead' instead.

The fanning of those flames doesn't help the current situation particularly from those who can't wait to tell John "Look what their saying about you".

He's very welcome to put his opinions forward like the rest of us but how is it helping apart from stoking up the toxicity against one man?

I reckon if I'd forked out millions of my own money to resurrect the club and get it to the highest position in 50 years, just to see it decline back towards its original lowest position, I'd be so much more pissed off even than I am now, as a mere season ticket holder.

I agree with you but there's no need for him to tar you, me and everyone else on this forum with the same brush. That's just a side show. It's disappointing and unnecessary.

[TheFunk]

Most of our success was built on the money of three men which JR's disciples conveniently forget. I'm pretty sure the experiment started as JR could no longer afford to put his share in anymore. Don't forget TB did resign as a director for a while as he was annoyed at JR blowing all TB's money on very high wages.

[Bentley Bullet]

Who forgets? JR openly admitted he couldn't afford to take the club any further on his own, isn't that why he got TB & DW on board?

[silent majority]

Some of the comments towards JR on here IMO are disgraceful, no chairman is perfect but I think I speak for most on here that we’d do anything to have the JR days back. He had ambition, he had vision and it’s no coincidence we had lots of success in his tenure.

Anyone slating JR must have short memories and should be ashamed of themselves

The problem is that you don't know what he did and how he did it, but plenty do.

Its not about having a short memory, its about remembering how much damage he was prepared to do to have his own way. People like me were facing bankruptcy because of his Irish pals.