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roversdude

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Re: Fans
« Reply #150 on April 21, 2023, 08:19:54 am by roversdude »
Agree with that NR
We seem to have regressed since Maxwell was injured



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ncRover

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Re: Fans
« Reply #151 on April 21, 2023, 08:45:08 am by ncRover »
I have yet to see anyone make a credible case to justify keeping DS in this job.

To be fair there are credible reasons...
1. Another change in manager means even more upheaval and all that comes with that in terms of changes to backroom staff, players etc.
2. Players have signed contract extensions and renewals on the knowledge that they'll be working with Schofield. They've obviously bought into what he offers.

So if anyone feels that those two reasons outweigh the reasons for not sticking with Schofield then they have a credible case.

So there is a credible case... it's just that you and many (many) other supporters don't agree with it, which is understandable as there are probably more reasons for getting rid than there are keeping him. But I don't think it's fair to dismiss anyone who wants him to stay as not being credible.

Fair points.
RW went to Orient and signed three, just three players. They seemed to have managed the “upheaval” well. Those who advocate for DS to stay may want to consider this.

You could look at it that he inherited a very good team

They finished 13th last year and I seem to remember Wellens complaining of an injury crisis at the start of the season after he’d been there a few weeks.
« Last Edit: April 21, 2023, 09:16:04 am by ncRover »

ravenrover

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Re: Fans
« Reply #152 on April 21, 2023, 09:10:22 am by ravenrover »
Let's put this to bed right now Schofield will not  be sacked just because some fans want it, if anything it could make the powers that be think  two fingers to you, we run and finance the club not you.


Some fans?
Over 90% of those that voted on here. The vast majority of which have seen much of the rovers rollercoaster over the years? Many of which have invested heavily both emotionally and financially. For years. Decades. The living legacy of drfc. Grandads, dads, sons, and female equivalents of course.
This isn’t “some” fans.


90% of a few hundred adds up to not a lot.
I would like to see DS go, he is a coach not a manager, but do you think the powers that be will take any notice of the creche in the South Stand or the morons hurling abuse and change things. It's not going to happen they have drawn their line and he is here for the long haul.
I only hope they change their minds, for footballing reasons, as with you NC and Hound, I have been supporting Rovers for many many years but won't abuse someone even if the football is dire

Campsall rover

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Re: Fans
« Reply #153 on April 21, 2023, 09:22:14 am by Campsall rover »
Let's put this to bed right now Schofield will not  be sacked just because some fans want it, if anything it could make the powers that be think  two fingers to you, we run and finance the club not you.

after their series of utterly horrendous decisions over the last couple of years they’d be very brave to stick two fingers up at us.
Not brave Cramby, unbelievably idiotic I would call it.

Without the fans there is no DRFC. 
I would expect season ticket sales will be down to well under 3.000 by August.
If we make a bad start then we will be seeing gates of under 4.000 next season.

If that’s what Blunt wants then he is beyond stupid. 

If they are looking for new investors or looking to sell the club then surely a club showing ambition with a solid loyal fan base is a more attractive proposition than one dying on its feet.

Self sustainability only works if the club keeps it current fan base and grows that fan base.
Increased sales. Bums on seats, customers buying merchandise, food, sponsorship & commercial revenue.

A club that sheds supporters by the bucket full which is what is happening right now is going to end in disaster.

If any organisation hasn’t got the right management personnel and are constantly failing because it doesn’t have enough customers/ sales, then what happens to that organisation/business.
Again it doesn’t need spelling out does it.

I think TB has got to tell Blunt to either wake up and start doing his job or tell him he is out.
Find another Chairman.
Someone who relates to the fans, shows empathy, someone who creates a positive vibe that gets the fans on side and excited. Someone who can make the fans proud to be fans of this Football Club.

JR May have had his faults but by heck we could do with that enthusiasm and ambition at the club right now.

Until Blunt goes I firmly believe we will not recover from this downward spiral we are in.



« Last Edit: April 21, 2023, 02:38:31 pm by Campsall rover »

ForsolongaRover

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Re: Fans
« Reply #154 on April 21, 2023, 10:06:21 am by ForsolongaRover »
Let's put this to bed right now Schofield will not  be sacked just because some fans want it, if anything it could make the powers that be think  two fingers to you, we run and finance the club not you.


Some fans?
Over 90% of those that voted on here. The vast majority of which have seen much of the rovers rollercoaster over the years? Many of which have invested heavily both emotionally and financially. For years. Decades. The living legacy of drfc. Grandads, dads, sons, and female equivalents of course.
This isn’t “some” fans.


90% of a few hundred adds up to not a lot.
I would like to see DS go, he is a coach not a manager, but do you think the powers that be will take any notice of the creche in the South Stand or the morons hurling abuse and change things. It's not going to happen they have drawn their line and he is here for the long haul.
I only hope they change their minds, for footballing reasons, as with you NC and Hound, I have been supporting Rovers for many many years but won't abuse someone even if the football is dire

Although he is nominally Head Coach he is the only person who the club put up as answerable for the performances. We might have expected Copps to have an executive managerial role and the old question of “job descriptions”, which I originally raised on his appointment, arises again.

However “competent manager”, de facto or otherwise, he is not.

I’m afraid that a blurred control structure in an organisation is a very obvious recipe for failure and just another feature of today’s DFRC.

Even within a creaking set-up you’d expect someone to pick up the baton in a crisis, but no one, not even the much-lauded Baldwin seems to have noticed that the whole enterprise is about to fall into the sea.

Onwards and downwards.

drfchound

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Re: Fans
« Reply #155 on April 21, 2023, 10:58:19 am by drfchound »
Let's put this to bed right now Schofield will not  be sacked just because some fans want it, if anything it could make the powers that be think  two fingers to you, we run and finance the club not you.


Some fans?
Over 90% of those that voted on here. The vast majority of which have seen much of the rovers rollercoaster over the years? Many of which have invested heavily both emotionally and financially. For years. Decades. The living legacy of drfc. Grandads, dads, sons, and female equivalents of course.
This isn’t “some” fans.


90% of a few hundred adds up to not a lot.
I would like to see DS go, he is a coach not a manager, but do you think the powers that be will take any notice of the creche in the South Stand or the morons hurling abuse and change things. It's not going to happen they have drawn their line and he is here for the long haul.
I only hope they change their minds, for footballing reasons, as with you NC and Hound, I have been supporting Rovers for many many years but won't abuse someone even if the football is dire

Raven, I’m not quite sure which way the last part of your post is meant to be read mate.
Just so it is clear, I never shout abuse at players or management at games and I don’t like to hear it.
If that is how you meant it to sound then I apologise for misunderstanding your post.

ravenrover

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Re: Fans
« Reply #156 on April 21, 2023, 12:41:55 pm by ravenrover »
No just my personal point of view, nothing else intended

normal rules

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Re: Fans
« Reply #157 on April 21, 2023, 12:46:47 pm by normal rules »
Let's put this to bed right now Schofield will not  be sacked just because some fans want it, if anything it could make the powers that be think  two fingers to you, we run and finance the club not you.


Some fans?
Over 90% of those that voted on here. The vast majority of which have seen much of the rovers rollercoaster over the years? Many of which have invested heavily both emotionally and financially. For years. Decades. The living legacy of drfc. Grandads, dads, sons, and female equivalents of course.
This isn’t “some” fans.


90% of a few hundred adds up to not a lot.
I would like to see DS go, he is a coach not a manager, but do you think the powers that be will take any notice of the creche in the South Stand or the morons hurling abuse and change things. It's not going to happen they have drawn their line and he is here for the long haul.
I only hope they change their minds, for footballing reasons, as with you NC and Hound, I have been supporting Rovers for many many years but won't abuse someone even if the football is dire

It’s a fair consideration that “ a few hundred” on here represent a pretty broad spread of rovers support base. And perhaps many on here are more tolerant to failure having been supporting rovers for years.
I’d say the stats are pretty damning. If you could poll the few thousand that will be there this sat, I reckon you would get similar results, if not worse.
If the Malaise is widespread on here, which it is, then transpose that into the younger support base who maybe don’t proliferate this forum and you can see why we are where we are.
Regarding the clubs statement, I have no doubt that there will be some keyboard imbeciles out there that have directed their abuse personally at Schofield. The sort of abuse that crosses the line into harassment . I’d expect them to be getting a door knock if it continues. And they deserve everything they get .
The terraces are for letting your feeling known though. it’s the link between fans and players and club, always has been, providing it doesn’t cross the line.
If Schofields football is shit (which it is) then I’m ok with him being reminded of that.
If the perception is he doesn’t know what he is doing , then ditto.
And likewise if people, like me, want him out of our club.
It happens in all clubs, in all leagues up and down the country and all over the world.
I’ve supported rovers since 1985 and I’ve never felt as crap about the club as I do currently . Except perhaps 97. But even then every season in the conf saw progression. 16th. Then 12th, then 9th then 4th then 3rd and playoff winners.
I am very worried that rovers drop into non league next year. It’s not the same lge as it was in the late nineties/ early noughties. It would be very hard to escape from.

Campsall rover

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Re: Fans
« Reply #158 on April 21, 2023, 12:49:40 pm by Campsall rover »
Let's put this to bed right now Schofield will not  be sacked just because some fans want it, if anything it could make the powers that be think  two fingers to you, we run and finance the club not you.


Some fans?
Over 90% of those that voted on here. The vast majority of which have seen much of the rovers rollercoaster over the years? Many of which have invested heavily both emotionally and financially. For years. Decades. The living legacy of drfc. Grandads, dads, sons, and female equivalents of course.
This isn’t “some” fans.


90% of a few hundred adds up to not a lot.
I would like to see DS go, he is a coach not a manager, but do you think the powers that be will take any notice of the creche in the South Stand or the morons hurling abuse and change things. It's not going to happen they have drawn their line and he is here for the long haul.
I only hope they change their minds, for footballing reasons, as with you NC and Hound, I have been supporting Rovers for many many years but won't abuse someone even if the football is dire

It’s a fair consideration that “ a few hundred” on here represent a pretty broad spread of rovers support base. And perhaps many on here are more tolerant to failure having been supporting rovers for years.
I’d say the stats are pretty damning. If you could poll the few thousand that will be there this sat, I reckon you would get similar results, if not worse.
If the Malaise is widespread on here, which it is, then transpose that into the younger support base who maybe don’t proliferate this forum and you can see why we are where we are.
Regarding the clubs statement, I have no doubt that there will be some keyboard imbeciles out there that have directed their abuse personally at Schofield. The sort of abuse that crosses the line into harassment . I’d expect them to be getting a door knock if it continues. And they deserve everything they get .
The terraces are for letting your feeling known though. it’s the link between fans and players and club, always has been, providing it doesn’t cross the line.
If Schofields football is shit (which it is) then I’m ok with him being reminded of that.
If the perception is he doesn’t know what he is doing , then ditto.
And likewise if people, like me, want him out of our club.
It happens in all clubs, in all leagues up and down the country and all over the world.
I’ve supported rovers since 1985 and I’ve never felt as crap about the club as I do currently . Except perhaps 97. But even then every season in the conf saw progression. 16th. Then 12th, then 9th then 4th then 3rd and playoff winners.
I am very worried that rovers drop into non league next year. It’s not the same lge as it was in the late nineties/ early noughties. It would be very hard to escape from.
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