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Quote from: normal rules on April 20, 2023, 06:56:31 pmQuote from: VivaRovers on April 20, 2023, 05:57:37 pmQuote from: Campsall rover on April 20, 2023, 02:52:26 pmI have yet to see anyone make a credible case to justify keeping DS in this job. To be fair there are credible reasons...1. Another change in manager means even more upheaval and all that comes with that in terms of changes to backroom staff, players etc.2. Players have signed contract extensions and renewals on the knowledge that they'll be working with Schofield. They've obviously bought into what he offers.So if anyone feels that those two reasons outweigh the reasons for not sticking with Schofield then they have a credible case. So there is a credible case... it's just that you and many (many) other supporters don't agree with it, which is understandable as there are probably more reasons for getting rid than there are keeping him. But I don't think it's fair to dismiss anyone who wants him to stay as not being credible.Fair points. RW went to Orient and signed three, just three players. They seemed to have managed the “upheaval” well. Those who advocate for DS to stay may want to consider this. You could look at it that he inherited a very good team
Quote from: VivaRovers on April 20, 2023, 05:57:37 pmQuote from: Campsall rover on April 20, 2023, 02:52:26 pmI have yet to see anyone make a credible case to justify keeping DS in this job. To be fair there are credible reasons...1. Another change in manager means even more upheaval and all that comes with that in terms of changes to backroom staff, players etc.2. Players have signed contract extensions and renewals on the knowledge that they'll be working with Schofield. They've obviously bought into what he offers.So if anyone feels that those two reasons outweigh the reasons for not sticking with Schofield then they have a credible case. So there is a credible case... it's just that you and many (many) other supporters don't agree with it, which is understandable as there are probably more reasons for getting rid than there are keeping him. But I don't think it's fair to dismiss anyone who wants him to stay as not being credible.Fair points. RW went to Orient and signed three, just three players. They seemed to have managed the “upheaval” well. Those who advocate for DS to stay may want to consider this.
Quote from: Campsall rover on April 20, 2023, 02:52:26 pmI have yet to see anyone make a credible case to justify keeping DS in this job. To be fair there are credible reasons...1. Another change in manager means even more upheaval and all that comes with that in terms of changes to backroom staff, players etc.2. Players have signed contract extensions and renewals on the knowledge that they'll be working with Schofield. They've obviously bought into what he offers.So if anyone feels that those two reasons outweigh the reasons for not sticking with Schofield then they have a credible case. So there is a credible case... it's just that you and many (many) other supporters don't agree with it, which is understandable as there are probably more reasons for getting rid than there are keeping him. But I don't think it's fair to dismiss anyone who wants him to stay as not being credible.
I have yet to see anyone make a credible case to justify keeping DS in this job.
Quote from: ravenrover on April 20, 2023, 08:58:29 pmLet's put this to bed right now Schofield will not be sacked just because some fans want it, if anything it could make the powers that be think two fingers to you, we run and finance the club not you.Some fans?Over 90% of those that voted on here. The vast majority of which have seen much of the rovers rollercoaster over the years? Many of which have invested heavily both emotionally and financially. For years. Decades. The living legacy of drfc. Grandads, dads, sons, and female equivalents of course. This isn’t “some” fans.
Let's put this to bed right now Schofield will not be sacked just because some fans want it, if anything it could make the powers that be think two fingers to you, we run and finance the club not you.
Quote from: ravenrover on April 20, 2023, 08:58:29 pmLet's put this to bed right now Schofield will not be sacked just because some fans want it, if anything it could make the powers that be think two fingers to you, we run and finance the club not you. after their series of utterly horrendous decisions over the last couple of years they’d be very brave to stick two fingers up at us.
Quote from: normal rules on April 20, 2023, 09:02:44 pmQuote from: ravenrover on April 20, 2023, 08:58:29 pmLet's put this to bed right now Schofield will not be sacked just because some fans want it, if anything it could make the powers that be think two fingers to you, we run and finance the club not you.Some fans?Over 90% of those that voted on here. The vast majority of which have seen much of the rovers rollercoaster over the years? Many of which have invested heavily both emotionally and financially. For years. Decades. The living legacy of drfc. Grandads, dads, sons, and female equivalents of course. This isn’t “some” fans. 90% of a few hundred adds up to not a lot.I would like to see DS go, he is a coach not a manager, but do you think the powers that be will take any notice of the creche in the South Stand or the morons hurling abuse and change things. It's not going to happen they have drawn their line and he is here for the long haul.I only hope they change their minds, for footballing reasons, as with you NC and Hound, I have been supporting Rovers for many many years but won't abuse someone even if the football is dire
Quote from: ravenrover on April 21, 2023, 09:10:22 amQuote from: normal rules on April 20, 2023, 09:02:44 pmQuote from: ravenrover on April 20, 2023, 08:58:29 pmLet's put this to bed right now Schofield will not be sacked just because some fans want it, if anything it could make the powers that be think two fingers to you, we run and finance the club not you.Some fans?Over 90% of those that voted on here. The vast majority of which have seen much of the rovers rollercoaster over the years? Many of which have invested heavily both emotionally and financially. For years. Decades. The living legacy of drfc. Grandads, dads, sons, and female equivalents of course. This isn’t “some” fans. 90% of a few hundred adds up to not a lot.I would like to see DS go, he is a coach not a manager, but do you think the powers that be will take any notice of the creche in the South Stand or the morons hurling abuse and change things. It's not going to happen they have drawn their line and he is here for the long haul.I only hope they change their minds, for footballing reasons, as with you NC and Hound, I have been supporting Rovers for many many years but won't abuse someone even if the football is direIt’s a fair consideration that “ a few hundred” on here represent a pretty broad spread of rovers support base. And perhaps many on here are more tolerant to failure having been supporting rovers for years. I’d say the stats are pretty damning. If you could poll the few thousand that will be there this sat, I reckon you would get similar results, if not worse. If the Malaise is widespread on here, which it is, then transpose that into the younger support base who maybe don’t proliferate this forum and you can see why we are where we are. Regarding the clubs statement, I have no doubt that there will be some keyboard imbeciles out there that have directed their abuse personally at Schofield. The sort of abuse that crosses the line into harassment . I’d expect them to be getting a door knock if it continues. And they deserve everything they get . The terraces are for letting your feeling known though. it’s the link between fans and players and club, always has been, providing it doesn’t cross the line. If Schofields football is shit (which it is) then I’m ok with him being reminded of that.If the perception is he doesn’t know what he is doing , then ditto.And likewise if people, like me, want him out of our club. It happens in all clubs, in all leagues up and down the country and all over the world. I’ve supported rovers since 1985 and I’ve never felt as crap about the club as I do currently . Except perhaps 97. But even then every season in the conf saw progression. 16th. Then 12th, then 9th then 4th then 3rd and playoff winners. I am very worried that rovers drop into non league next year. It’s not the same lge as it was in the late nineties/ early noughties. It would be very hard to escape from.