Process Update - First Half Stats

[dickos1]

I don’t disagree with some of these points but my only point here was that whatever way you look at it there is no way 6 of todays starting 11 woukd get into our strongest current 11 when all are fit

[dickos1]

Mitchell. Brown, Nelson,close, Molyneux & Hurst
All 1st choices out of a fully fit squad.

Yes that is 6 dickos

So who wouldn’t you be playing out of Anderson, Maxwell, olowu, Rowe, biggins, miller, Lakin?

If you’re playing 6 from tonight, that means 2 of these wouldn’t be in your strongest 11

[Dare to dream!]

His Huddersfield record was one win and one draw in 9 matches.

He’s just not a manager.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Mitchell. Brown, Nelson,close, Molyneux & Hurst
All 1st choices out of a fully fit squad.

Yes that is 6 dickos

DS has made all of them except Nelson into worse players than they were before he got the job.
He is doing his best with Nelson to do the same

He is a joke of a coach.

On the one hand: Folk saying those 6 are in our first choice XI.

On the other hand: Folk saying that our squad isn't that bad.

I put it to the jury that there is a logical inconsistency going on here.

[Bessie Red]

Mitchell. Brown, Nelson,close, Molyneux & Hurst
All 1st choices out of a fully fit squad.

Yes that is 6 dickos

DS has made all of them except Nelson into worse players than they were before he got the job.
He is doing his best with Nelson to do the same

He is a joke of a coach.

Wouldn't have Molyneux anywhere near the first 11 & Hurst is not regular starting material yet.

[mushRTID]

I honestly think tonight’s team might be the worst line up we’ve fielded in a league game since returning back to the football league.

Just have a glance over it again, it is shocking. We were never ever going to lay a glove on them (who were excellent I thought, especially first half).

Danny has absolutely not helped himself and because of that has no credit in the bank now injuries have hit with a lot of fans which is fair enough. But I don’t know what we could have done tonight.

I don’t doubt how bad the football has been and decisions at times but that team was shocking and we were at least better second half.

I would hope none of them are in our first 11 next year.

[Chris Black come back]

Perspective again. We are bottom half in the lowest professional tier of the game, with 3 games to go we are 17 points off the play offs. We’ve managed 1 shot on goal all game against a side with a gate of less than 3,000 who didn’t need to break sweat once. That they are having a good season and we had injuries is a footnote in the greater scheme of things. This is a truly abject season which gets worse the longer it lasts.

[drfchound]

Mitchell. Brown, Nelson,close, Molyneux & Hurst
All 1st choices out of a fully fit squad.

Yes that is 6 dickos

DS has made all of them except Nelson into worse players than they were before he got the job.
He is doing his best with Nelson to do the same

He is a joke of a coach.

On the one hand: Folk saying those 6 are in our first choice XI.

On the other hand: Folk saying that our squad isn't that bad.

I put it to the jury that there is a logical inconsistency going on here.

That isn’t surprising though is it.
Not everyone thinks the same way, a bit like in most things in life.

[sedwardsdrfc]

Mitchell. Brown, Nelson,close, Molyneux & Hurst
All 1st choices out of a fully fit squad.

Yes that is 6 dickos

DS has made all of them except Nelson into worse players than they were before he got the job.
He is doing his best with Nelson to do the same

He is a joke of a coach.

On the one hand: Folk saying those 6 are in our first choice XI.

On the other hand: Folk saying that our squad isn't that bad.

I put it to the jury that there is a logical inconsistency going on here.

If it’s consensus you want make another poll about DS’s future. That logic isn’t accepted by you and your mate so which is it.

[dickos1]

Mitchell. Brown, Nelson,close, Molyneux & Hurst
All 1st choices out of a fully fit squad.

Yes that is 6 dickos

DS has made all of them except Nelson into worse players than they were before he got the job.
He is doing his best with Nelson to do the same

He is a joke of a coach.

On the one hand: Folk saying those 6 are in our first choice XI.

On the other hand: Folk saying that our squad isn't that bad.

I put it to the jury that there is a logical inconsistency going on here.

If it’s consensus you want make another poll about DS’s future. That logic isn’t accepted by you and your mate so which is it.

Ha love it when folk start trying to be condescending just because they dare to disagree with them.
This is possibly the first topic myself and billy have agreed on in all the years I’ve been on here

[sedwardsdrfc]

Glad your enjoying your arguing can tell you love it xxx

[ForsolongaRover]

Mitchell. Brown, Nelson,close, Molyneux & Hurst
All 1st choices out of a fully fit squad.

Yes that is 6 dickos

DS has made all of them except Nelson into worse players than they were before he got the job.
He is doing his best with Nelson to do the same

He is a joke of a coach.

On the one hand: Folk saying those 6 are in our first choice XI.

On the other hand: Folk saying that our squad isn't that bad.

I put it to the jury that there is a logical inconsistency going on here.

If it’s consensus you want make another poll about DS’s future. That logic isn’t accepted by you and your mate so which is it.

Ha love it when folk start trying to be condescending just because they dare to disagree with them.
This is possibly the first topic myself and billy have agreed on in all the years I’ve been on here

Dickos: Looking at recent posts I cannot detect anything which is “condescending” towards you. However the fact that you are getting pleasure in defending the indefensible rather betrays your relationship with the club. A big majority is desperately unhappy with what is going on, worried and seemingly powerless to exert any influence on the club’s senior management.

And you are “loving it”!

Applying the word “condescending” to you in relation to the level of respect you appear to show for those who offer views counter to your own on here, would be generous.

[Retdon1]

I’d be playing 3-5-1-1

Anderson, olowu and either Nelson or Faulkner

Brown rwb, Maxwell lwb

Close, biggins, Lakin in midfield

Rowe/molyneux or hurst playing off miller

So you don’t want us scoring goals either then

[Branton Red]

I suspect, based on team selections to date, Schofield's preferred first XI would be: -

Mitchell; Brown, Olowu, Anderson, Nelson, Maxwell; Molyneux, Close, (2 from Biggins, Lakin, Rowe); Miller

5 of those started yesterday. However of those 5: -

Mitchell and Brown are the weakest links in the first choice XI
Molyneux is playing out of position
Nelson went off at HT (though his replacement was an improvement on the night)

[mpc123]

It's not even a conversation, DS set up put pressure on us before we start.

Nothing to do with the players.

It's like watching a defensive drill in training all the way through the games.

It is beyond how any can say that the players are bad.

They were great when we were signing them. The way we currently play and set up would kill any player, especially a centre forward. We could have the best in the world up there, the set up doesn't allow anything to get to him.

[Campsall rover]

It's not even a conversation, DS set up put pressure on us before we start.

Nothing to do with the players.

It's like watching a defensive drill in training all the way through the games.

It is beyond how any can say that the players are bad.

They were great when we were signing them. The way we currently play and set up would kill any player, especially a centre forward. We could have the best in the world up there, the set up doesn't allow anything to get to him.

Correct.
In a nut shell.

What did we do at Grimsby. We played on the front foot. We played with a quick tempo, we played attacking football. We got support around George Miller.
We looked like a football team.
Grimsby couldn’t live with us that day.

So don’t anyone tell me we don’t have some decent players in this squad. Yes we do.
Yes we are missing some injured players but the results and the football was awful when they were playing.

This is all down to how this Head Coach has set the team up and is asking them to play.

Please please please Blunt get him sacked.  What are you waiting for???   


We have a head coach who is not fit for purpose. End of

[Plumbster]

It is striking that the odd decent performance is proof that the players are good enough but not the coach.  I know we all want what’s best for the club but I don’t think it’s so clear cut what that is. I can still see both sides but accept that the strength of feeling of the majority will probably make DS position untenable.

[BillyStubbsTears]

I suspect, based on team selections to date, Schofield's preferred first XI would be: -

Mitchell; Brown, Olowu, Anderson, Nelson, Maxwell; Molyneux, Close, (2 from Biggins, Lakin, Rowe); Miller

5 of those started yesterday. However of those 5: -

Mitchell and Brown are the weakest links in the first choice XI
Molyneux is playing out of position
Nelson went off at HT (though his replacement was an improvement on the night)

So, to summarise, at least 8 of the ones who started that match would not be in a preferred first XI, with a properly formulated squad, one of the other 3 played out of position through necessity and one was so poor in the first half that he was taken off. Then there's Close, who I actually forgot was playing in the first half.

But folk still think we should have done better, against an automatic promotion side.

[Campsall rover]

I suspect, based on team selections to date, Schofield's preferred first XI would be: -

Mitchell; Brown, Olowu, Anderson, Nelson, Maxwell; Molyneux, Close, (2 from Biggins, Lakin, Rowe); Miller

5 of those started yesterday. However of those 5: -

Mitchell and Brown are the weakest links in the first choice XI
Molyneux is playing out of position
Nelson went off at HT (though his replacement was an improvement on the night)

So, to summarise, at least 8 of the ones who started that match would not be in a preferred first XI, with a properly formulated squad, one of the other 3 played out of position through necessity and one was so poor in the first half that he was taken off. Then there's Close, who I actually forgot was playing in the first half.

But folk still think we should have done better, against an automatic promotion side.

Were you there at the match BST.

So it is acceptable to not even get into the opposition penalty area once in 45 mins.
Come on BST we were not playing Man City. We were playing Stevenage a team in League 2
The fact they were sitting 4th in league 2 before the game does not make them a team that is so good we should create Zero.
Zero shots zero corners, nothing.

Come on BST you are defending the indefensible. 

[BillyStubbsTears]

Campsall.

I've made my position clear. You disagree.

Your message here asks me for my opinion, then tells me my opinion is wrong, all in the same post. I'm not sure there's much for either of us to gain by continuing this.

I think you are being massively over the top in your criticism.

You think I'm defending the indefensible.

Neither of us are going to change the other one's mind.

[Campsall rover]

Campsall.

I've made my position clear. You disagree.

Your message here asks me for my opinion, then tells me my opinion is wrong, all in the same post. I'm not sure there's much for either of us to gain by continuing this.

I think you are being massively over the top in your criticism.

You think I'm defending the indefensible.

Neither of us are going to change the other one's mind.

You would make a brilliant politician BST.
Just avoid answering the question asked.

I know you have a different opinion. Just give me your reasons why you think it is justified DS is kept in this job.
It’s not a difficult question is it?  Or maybe it is an impossible one because you don’t have an answer.

[BillyStubbsTears]

CR

https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=287740.msg1231684#msg1231684

As I say, I'm not now going to waste my time engaging directly with someone who asks me a question with one breath, and before taking the next tells me they think I'm wrong.

Agree with what I say or disagree, as you wish. Just don't expect the courtesy of a considered reply when you approach an exchange like that.

[Campsall rover]

CR

https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=287740.msg1231684#msg1231684

As I say, I'm not now going to waste my time engaging directly with someone who asks me a question with one breath, and before taking the next tells me they think I'm wrong.

Agree with what I say or disagree, as you wish. Just don't expect the courtesy of a considered reply when you approach an exchange like that.

Come on BST I was hardly being discourteous. It was a simple question.

The link to your that previous post.  I must admit I had not seen it. So my apologies.
You didn’t post it in reply to any of of mine. So it’s one that slipped the net.

So ok you have given your reasons for sticking with DS.
I don’t agree with of with you but I respect your opinion. You gave one and that is all I was asking for.
No problem I don’t want to fall out over it.
It is a forum for opinions. 

[Campsall rover]

Oh by the way BST where is it I have said “you are wrong and I am right”
I have never said that to you but by heck you say it to everyone else.
When have you ever ever admitted you were wrong?

No your ego won’t let you do that will it?

[dickos1]

I’d be playing 3-5-1-1

Anderson, olowu and either Nelson or Faulkner

Brown rwb, Maxwell lwb

Close, biggins, Lakin in midfield

Rowe/molyneux or hurst playing off miller

So you don’t want us scoring goals either then

Why’s that then

[dickos1]

It's not even a conversation, DS set up put pressure on us before we start.

Nothing to do with the players.

It's like watching a defensive drill in training all the way through the games.

It is beyond how any can say that the players are bad.

They were great when we were signing them. The way we currently play and set up would kill any player, especially a centre forward. We could have the best in the world up there, the set up doesn't allow anything to get to him.

Correct.
In a nut shell.

What did we do at Grimsby. We played on the front foot. We played with a quick tempo, we played attacking football. We got support around George Miller.
We looked like a football team.
Grimsby couldn’t live with us that day.

So don’t anyone tell me we don’t have some decent players in this squad. Yes we do.
Yes we are missing some injured players but the results and the football was awful when they were playing.

This is all down to how this Head Coach has set the team up and is asking them to play.

Please please please Blunt get him sacked.  What are you waiting for???   


We have a head coach who is not fit for purpose. End of

Who was the coach for that Grimsby game?

[In the box]

So at half time tonight The Process yields....
Goals
Home 1 Away 0
Possession
Home50%Away50%
Shots
Home7Away0
Shots on Target
Home2Away0
Corners
Home1Away0

Utterly pathetic, for god sake someone get rid of this fool.


Fouls
Home5Away3

What do we do with our 50%?

[ncRover]

It's not even a conversation, DS set up put pressure on us before we start.

Nothing to do with the players.

It's like watching a defensive drill in training all the way through the games.

It is beyond how any can say that the players are bad.

They were great when we were signing them. The way we currently play and set up would kill any player, especially a centre forward. We could have the best in the world up there, the set up doesn't allow anything to get to him.

Correct.
In a nut shell.

What did we do at Grimsby. We played on the front foot. We played with a quick tempo, we played attacking football. We got support around George Miller.
We looked like a football team.
Grimsby couldn’t live with us that day.

So don’t anyone tell me we don’t have some decent players in this squad. Yes we do.
Yes we are missing some injured players but the results and the football was awful when they were playing.

This is all down to how this Head Coach has set the team up and is asking them to play.

Please please please Blunt get him sacked.  What are you waiting for???   


We have a head coach who is not fit for purpose. End of

Who was the coach for that Grimsby game?

It is the coach’s job to get an entire squad to collectively maintain some level of consistency (of the positive sort).

[Campsall rover]

It's not even a conversation, DS set up put pressure on us before we start.

Nothing to do with the players.

It's like watching a defensive drill in training all the way through the games.

It is beyond how any can say that the players are bad.

They were great when we were signing them. The way we currently play and set up would kill any player, especially a centre forward. We could have the best in the world up there, the set up doesn't allow anything to get to him.

Correct.
In a nut shell.

What did we do at Grimsby. We played on the front foot. We played with a quick tempo, we played attacking football. We got support around George Miller.
We looked like a football team.
Grimsby couldn’t live with us that day.

So don’t anyone tell me we don’t have some decent players in this squad. Yes we do.
Yes we are missing some injured players but the results and the football was awful when they were playing.

This is all down to how this Head Coach has set the team up and is asking them to play.

Please please please Blunt get him sacked.  What are you waiting for???   


We have a head coach who is not fit for purpose. End of

Who was the coach for that Grimsby game?

You said it dickos. Who indeed.
So what has he been doing since the middle of November with the players?

[BillyStubbsTears]

Oh by the way BST where is it I have said “you are wrong and I am right”
I have never said that to you but by heck you say it to everyone else.
When have you ever ever admitted you were wrong?

No your ego won’t let you do that will it?

CR.

It was the bit where you asked me a question, then immediately told me I was "defending the indefensible".