Chanting for Charlie

[drfchound]

I am because my customers don't want me in on Monday so I'm going to paint my kitchen and hang a radiator.

What's the radiator done?

 

[Glyn_Wigley]

People who don't like the Premier League don't have to put up with it. They can ignore it and leave those who like it to carry on liking it.

The same should go for the Coronation.

The difference though is that the Premier League isn't undemocratic and doesn't cost me anything.

When those who want to ignore the Royal family can have their money back you might have a point.

[Glyn_Wigley]

The Monarchy generates a massive income for the country in tourism I don’t see a head of state in the likes of Machron or Shroeder would generate anything

Is it the members of Royal Family themselves who generate tourism, or the trappings of monarchy? They're not the same things.

If we're serious about tourism income let Disney handle the monarchy for us, they really know how to get money out of tourists. And they'd do it in a cost effective way.

[Not Now Kato]

So, would people stop visiting if there was no monarchy.  Lots of tourism in other countries without a monarch.  I believe the most visited palace is Versailles.

It's estimated that with the land and the Palace it would have cost over 2 billion dollars at todays prices. It is fully open to tje public hence why it is probably the most visited nothing to do with current royalty it is more a museum with a vast amount of land.
Yes I've been and it is magnificent it is a days outing but the French royalty, as in royal familly, has long gone except in name, as opposed to over here

More people visit Chester Zoo each yer than visit Buck Palace.

[Bentley Bullet]

https://www.investmentmonitor.ai/features/how-much-money-does-the-monarchy-bring-to-the-uk/#:~:text=A%20moneymaking%20monarchy,foreign%20investment%20and%20much%20more.

[Bentley Bullet]

People who don't like the Premier League don't have to put up with it. They can ignore it and leave those who like it to carry on liking it.

The same should go for the Coronation.

The difference though is that the Premier League isn't undemocratic and doesn't cost me anything.

When those who want to ignore the Royal family can have their money back you might have a point.

The Premier League would cost you a lot if you chose to attend a game or paid to view it on TV. Those who choose to ignore the Royal family receive the same benefits as everyone else in respect of the revenue it brings in in terms of tax income, trade, tourism, media, real estate and heritage sites, foreign investment, etc, which far exceed the cost to each UK citizen.

[tyke1962]

People who don't like the Premier League don't have to put up with it. They can ignore it and leave those who like it to carry on liking it.

The same should go for the Coronation.

The difference though is that the Premier League isn't undemocratic and doesn't cost me anything.

When those who want to ignore the Royal family can have their money back you might have a point.

If Manchester United want to upgrade Old Trafford or Spurs want to build a new stadium they don't ask the UK taxpayer to foot the bill either .

[tyke1962]

People who don't like the Premier League don't have to put up with it. They can ignore it and leave those who like it to carry on liking it.

The same should go for the Coronation.

The difference though is that the Premier League isn't undemocratic and doesn't cost me anything.

When those who want to ignore the Royal family can have their money back you might have a point.

The Premier League would cost you a lot if you chose to attend a game or paid to view it on TV. Those who choose to ignore the Royal family receive the same benefits as everyone else in respect of the revenue it brings in in terms of tax income, trade, tourism, media, real estate and heritage sites, foreign investment, etc, which far exceed the cost to each UK citizen.

Wasn't the Queen the world's richest woman ? .

It doesn't quite configure that the Royal Family is some kind of Socialist Enterprise does it .

[Bentley Bullet]

People who don't like the Premier League don't have to put up with it. They can ignore it and leave those who like it to carry on liking it.

The same should go for the Coronation.

The difference though is that the Premier League isn't undemocratic and doesn't cost me anything.

When those who want to ignore the Royal family can have their money back you might have a point.

If Manchester United want to upgrade Old Trafford or Spurs want to build a new stadium they don't ask the UK taxpayer to foot the bill either .

Why should they? Only those who attend their games would benefit from the upgrades, unlike the Royal family where everyone benefits.

[Glyn_Wigley]

People who don't like the Premier League don't have to put up with it. They can ignore it and leave those who like it to carry on liking it.

The same should go for the Coronation.

The difference though is that the Premier League isn't undemocratic and doesn't cost me anything.

When those who want to ignore the Royal family can have their money back you might have a point.

The Premier League would cost you a lot if you chose to attend a game or paid to view it on TV. Those who choose to ignore the Royal family receive the same benefits as everyone else in respect of the revenue it brings in in terms of tax income, trade, tourism, media, real estate and heritage sites, foreign investment, etc, which far exceed the cost to each UK citizen.

Money that would revert to the state if the monarchy was abolished, actually more so as we wouldn't fund the monarchy from it.

[Bentley Bullet]

Do you mean a bit like leaving the EU?

[ravenrover]

So, would people stop visiting if there was no monarchy.  Lots of tourism in other countries without a monarch.  I believe the most visited palace is Versailles.

It's estimated that with the land and the Palace it would have cost over 2 billion dollars at todays prices. It is fully open to tje public hence why it is probably the most visited nothing to do with current royalty it is more a museum with a vast amount of land.
Yes I've been and it is magnificent it is a days outing but the French royalty, as in royal familly, has long gone except in name, as opposed to over here

More people visit Chester Zoo each yer than visit Buck Palace.

Just remind me how many months a year BuckPal is open to the public that'll be 3 then,  by ticket

[Not Now Kato]

So, would people stop visiting if there was no monarchy.  Lots of tourism in other countries without a monarch.  I believe the most visited palace is Versailles.

It's estimated that with the land and the Palace it would have cost over 2 billion dollars at todays prices. It is fully open to tje public hence why it is probably the most visited nothing to do with current royalty it is more a museum with a vast amount of land.
Yes I've been and it is magnificent it is a days outing but the French royalty, as in royal familly, has long gone except in name, as opposed to over here

 
More people visit Chester Zoo each yer than visit Buck Palace.

Just remind me how many months a year BuckPal is open to the public that'll be 3 then,  by ticket

People go to Buck Palace every day.  You don't have to go in it to visit it FFS!

[Bentley Bullet]

So how many people "go to" Buck Palace every day?

[Nudga]

And how many go thinking they are going to actually meet the King?

[Not Now Kato]

So how many people "go to" Buck Palace every day?

Google's your friend BB. Oh and in excess of 8,000,000 million people visited the Palace of Verseils last year; and France doesn't even have a King or Queen!

[Bentley Bullet]

So how many people "go to" Buck Palace every day?

Google's your friend BB. Oh and in excess of 8,000,000 million people visited the Palace of Verseils last year; and France doesn't even have a King or Queen!

Are you suggesting that figure would be less if France still had a King or Queen?

How many people visit Buck Palace every day without going in it?

[ravenrover]

So, would people stop visiting if there was no monarchy.  Lots of tourism in other countries without a monarch.  I believe the most visited palace is Versailles.

It's estimated that with the land and the Palace it would have cost over 2 billion dollars at todays prices. It is fully open to tje public hence why it is probably the most visited nothing to do with current royalty it is more a museum with a vast amount of land.
Yes I've been and it is magnificent it is a days outing but the French royalty, as in royal familly, has long gone except in name, as opposed to over here

 
More people visit Chester Zoo each yer than visit Buck Palace.

Just remind me how many months a year BuckPal is open to the public that'll be 3 then,  by ticket

People go to Buck Palace every day.  You don't have to go in it to visit it FFS!

Does that analysis apply to the zoo as well?
Judging by the 000's who attend events such as the jubilee the coronation the chsnging of the guards etc my guess would be it far exceeds visitors to Chester Zoo bssed on what you have just daid. Versailles by the way is actually on the edge of the town and is massive, both the palace and the grounds no comparison to Buck Pal, think more along the lines of Chatsworth housebut 3 or 4 times bigger and grander

[BillyStubbsTears]

I see the Met are arresting anti-Monarchists who were protesting peacefully in Trafalgar Square.

[Bentley Bullet]

I see the Met are arresting anti-Monarchists who were protesting peacefully in Trafalgar Square.

Starmer will sort it. Not long to wait now!

[Nudga]

I see the Met are arresting anti-Monarchists who were protesting peacefully in Trafalgar Square.

On what grounds? Are these unlawful arrests?

[Colin C No.3]

Shame his mum’s not alive to watch this.

[Sprotyrover]

Congratulations to King Charles, Crowned on Saint Georges day, watch our for some Eastern Orthodox part in ceremony.

[Donnywolf]

I see the Met are arresting anti-Monarchists who were protesting peacefully in Trafalgar Square.

On what grounds? Are these unlawful arrests?

Yes after the Anti Protest Bill was passed recently

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/05/02/uk/uk-public-order-act-coronation-intl/index.html

You can have free speech unless we don't like what you are saying or holding on a Banner perhaps ?

[BillyStubbsTears]

Quite bizarre that, in the 21st century, our Head of State has to confirm that he is a "faithful Protestant" before he can be confirmed in the role.

We are a very strange country.

[MachoMadness]

I was never a royalist but I wouldn't say I actively disliked them. The more they try to suppress dissent through pr and police action, the more that changes. f**k them and the met. Two gangs of sex offenders and racists looking out for one another.

[donnybez]

People who don't like the Premier League don't have to put up with it. They can ignore it and leave those who like it to carry on liking it.

The same should go for the Coronation.

The difference though is that the Premier League isn't undemocratic and doesn't cost me anything.

When those who want to ignore the Royal family can have their money back you might have a point.

If Manchester United want to upgrade Old Trafford or Spurs want to build a new stadium they don't ask the UK taxpayer to foot the bill either .

I see what point youre trying to make... but wasn't our ground built with local taxpayer money?

[Bentley Bullet]

People who don't like the Premier League don't have to put up with it. They can ignore it and leave those who like it to carry on liking it.

The same should go for the Coronation.

The difference though is that the Premier League isn't undemocratic and doesn't cost me anything.

When those who want to ignore the Royal family can have their money back you might have a point.

If Manchester United want to upgrade Old Trafford or Spurs want to build a new stadium they don't ask the UK taxpayer to foot the bill either .

I see what point youre trying to make... but wasn't our ground built with local taxpayer money?

Yes, it was, and only about 2% of tax payers in the borough go to watch Rovers there!

[BillyStubbsTears]

I'm not a militant Republican. If folk need this sort of Ruritanian pomp to make them feel good...there are worse things.

But this ceremony is all very strange if you take a step back and think how you'd explain it to extra-terrestrials.

A holy man exhorts a supernatural deity to bless the rule of a man who's position rests on the fact that he's the descendant of medieval gang bosses who won their turf war.

In fairness to Charles, I do think he gets how nonsensical all this is. There are full on reactionaries in the Royal Establishment who want to give the impression that the last 150 years of modernity never happened

Charles is cannier than that. He knows that the Royal Family has to adapt and evolve its image as society changes. His mother was a genius on that score, managing the process of changing Royalty's role from being aloof Rulers of Empire to being a homely First Family (just like yours, only with a palace and a ship).

Charles knows that process has to continue - the Royal Family has to be seen to reflect society or it rapidly becomes irrelevant. Hence the little gestures like calling himself Defender of Faiths (plural). And weirdly, inviting Bear Grylls and Lionel Richie to the service.

[tommy toes]

It's all very medieval and completely outdated.  Its emphasis on keeping the Protestant faith front and centre is evident
Charles looks suitably embarrassed.