RIP Bob Kerslake

[Bentley Bullet]

So you lot having a go at BST think that people like Johnson, Hancock, Patel, Braverman, Zahawi, Schapps, Williamson et al deserve our respect eh?.
They need to be constantly called out and compared when good honest people like Kerslake pass on.
You must be off your trolleys.

BST has shown his disrespect for those you mention very clearly and very often for years now, but even a nasty, unpleasant, bitter and twisted person like me has enough decorum to abstain from starting a thread announcing someone's death for the purpose of political point-scoring.

What the absolute f**k are you on about?

My first post was addressing the quality of politicians we have had across the spectrum for years. Something I've bemoaned regularly.

I didn't say anything party political. You dived in on that theme.

Ah, so your reference to the quality of cabinet ministers we've had recently wasn't a statement solely aimed at Tories, I see. But if that's the case then you can understand why even one of your own apologists misunderstood you also, can't you?

[BillyStubbsTears]

So you lot having a go at BST think that people like Johnson, Hancock, Patel, Braverman, Zahawi, Schapps, Williamson et al deserve our respect eh?.
They need to be constantly called out and compared when good honest people like Kerslake pass on.
You must be off your trolleys.

BST has shown his disrespect for those you mention very clearly and very often for years now, but even a nasty, unpleasant, bitter and twisted person like me has enough decorum to abstain from starting a thread announcing someone's death for the purpose of political point-scoring.

What the absolute f**k are you on about?

My first post was addressing the quality of politicians we have had across the spectrum for years. Something I've bemoaned regularly.

I didn't say anything party political. You dived in on that theme.

Ah, so your reference to the quality of cabinet ministers we've had recently wasn't a statement solely aimed at Tories, I see. But if that's the case then you can understand why even one of your own apologists misunderstood you also, can't you?

After you had waded in and brought party politics into it you mean? Yeah, I can see how that happened.

For the record, I have regularly bemoaned the poor quality of leading politicians on all sides in recent years. Kerslake has been a senior civil servant since the mid-90s. Under both Labour and Tory governments. The fact that you politicise this eggs on the likes of Draytonian to assume I'm on a "Tory bashing exercise" or Belton to decide (as he does) that I had some sort of agenda.

It's so, so f**king corrosive. It drags every discussion into the shite.

But that wasn't what irked me most about your disgusting post at the head of this thread. It was the fact that you assume I'd use a post about the death of someone I deeply admire for party political reasons.

You shouldn't surprise me. Not after a few weeks ago and your response to a post about my son's mental health was a snarky windup. I should know what to expect and ignore you.

[Bentley Bullet]

No BST, You mentioned recent cabinet ministers in your opening post.

[Iberian Red]

I've got a line on the BST troll bingo! The usual 3 posters wading in and trying to turn the op into something totally different.

[BillyStubbsTears]

No BST, You mentioned recent cabinet ministers in your opening post.

Yes!

"Recent" as opposed to "in the distant past"

If I'd meant "Tory" I'd have said "Tory". I'm not usually reticent on that.

YOU chose to assume I was making a party political point. Because you cannot help yourself.

[Bentley Bullet]

But you said 'after I'd waded in and........

Oh, what's the point? I'm sure your followers will believe you!

[wilts rover]

Feed the trolls and they will bore.

[belton rover]

No BST, You mentioned recent cabinet ministers in your opening post.

Yes!

"Recent" as opposed to "in the distant past"

If I'd meant "Tory" I'd have said "Tory". I'm not usually reticent on that.

YOU chose to assume I was making a party political point. Because you cannot help yourself.

It seems I’ve been finding the worst in Billy’s posts again.
Of course I should have realised that ‘recent cabinet ministers’ didn’t just mean the tory one for the past god knows how many years. It meant all cabinet ministers back to the days of…of…of…can anyone tell me when the distant past starts? Thatcher? Callaghan? Churchill?

[belton rover]

Feed the trolls and they will bore.

Wilts, what did you think Billy meant when he said ‘recent cabinet ministers’?

[drfchound]

Feed the trolls and they will bore.

Wilts, did you really think he meant anything other than cabinet ministers beyond the last 13 years.
Come on, really, did you.

[Iberian Red]

But you said 'after I'd waded in and........

Oh, what's the point? I'm sure your followers will believe you!

Followers,disciples etc.
You are similar to an embarrassing adolescent jealous of likes on Tik Tok

[Iberian Red]

No BST, You mentioned recent cabinet ministers in your opening post.

Yes!

"Recent" as opposed to "in the distant past"

If I'd meant "Tory" I'd have said "Tory". I'm not usually reticent on that.

YOU chose to assume I was making a party political point. Because you cannot help yourself.

It seems I’ve been finding the worst in Billy’s posts again.
Of course I should have realised that ‘recent cabinet ministers’ didn’t just mean the tory one for the past god knows how many years. It meant all cabinet ministers back to the days of…of…of…can anyone tell me when the distant past starts? Thatcher? Callaghan? Churchill?

10 out of 10 for persistent trolling.
As you have recommended to other posters,maybe it's time you had a break,got away from the keyboard and tried a little Parklife.

[belton rover]

No BST, You mentioned recent cabinet ministers in your opening post.

Yes!

"Recent" as opposed to "in the distant past"

If I'd meant "Tory" I'd have said "Tory". I'm not usually reticent on that.

YOU chose to assume I was making a party political point. Because you cannot help yourself.

It seems I’ve been finding the worst in Billy’s posts again.
Of course I should have realised that ‘recent cabinet ministers’ didn’t just mean the tory one for the past god knows how many years. It meant all cabinet ministers back to the days of…of…of…can anyone tell me when the distant past starts? Thatcher? Callaghan? Churchill?

10 out of 10 for persistent trolling.
As you have recommended to other posters,maybe it's time you had a break,got away from the keyboard and tried a little Parklife.

I don’t know what your beef is with me, Iberian.
You seem to have taken a very personal dislike to me without actually taking part in any kind of discussion with me, ever.
Troll, you say…

[tommy toes]

Yes Belton will stop at nothing to try and get BST'S attention.
Sad isn't it?
If anyone else had started this thread it would have gotten very little attention, but because it's BST the hyenas can't help themselves.

[belton rover]

Yes Belton will stop at nothing to try and get BST'S attention.
Sad isn't it?
If anyone else had started this thread it would have gotten very little attention, but because it's BST the hyenas can't help themselves.

I just respond to posts where I see fit, Tommy.
You do exactly to me what you incorrectly accuse me doing to Billy.
Here’s something you could do: count up how many times Billy posts anything on here and compare that to how many times I comment on one of Billy’s posts.

Then compare how many times you make some smart arse comment on anything I post.

Then you’ll see exactly who is trying to get a rise from whom.

I’ve really tried being civil to you over the past few months, but you’re not having it, are you?

I’ll keep trying though, because I respect a lot of what you say (when you’re not just having a go, that is).

Life’s too short to be bitter.

[Iberian Red]

No BST, You mentioned recent cabinet ministers in your opening post.

Yes!

"Recent" as opposed to "in the distant past"

If I'd meant "Tory" I'd have said "Tory". I'm not usually reticent on that.

YOU chose to assume I was making a party political point. Because you cannot help yourself.

It seems I’ve been finding the worst in Billy’s posts again.
Of course I should have realised that ‘recent cabinet ministers’ didn’t just mean the tory one for the past god knows how many years. It meant all cabinet ministers back to the days of…of…of…can anyone tell me when the distant past starts? Thatcher? Callaghan? Churchill?

10 out of 10 for persistent trolling.
As you have recommended to other posters,maybe it's time you had a break,got away from the keyboard and tried a little Parklife.

I don’t know what your beef is with me, Iberian.
You seem to have taken a very personal dislike to me without actually taking part in any kind of discussion with me, ever.
Troll, you say…

Don't take it personally, I dislike trolls in general.
This was supposed to be a post dedicated to a great civil servant that also served the government of Cameron.
However,with your infatuation with BST,you just couldn't help yours3lf.

[belton rover]

No BST, You mentioned recent cabinet ministers in your opening post.

Yes!

"Recent" as opposed to "in the distant past"

If I'd meant "Tory" I'd have said "Tory". I'm not usually reticent on that.

YOU chose to assume I was making a party political point. Because you cannot help yourself.

It seems I’ve been finding the worst in Billy’s posts again.
Of course I should have realised that ‘recent cabinet ministers’ didn’t just mean the tory one for the past god knows how many years. It meant all cabinet ministers back to the days of…of…of…can anyone tell me when the distant past starts? Thatcher? Callaghan? Churchill?

10 out of 10 for persistent trolling.
As you have recommended to other posters,maybe it's time you had a break,got away from the keyboard and tried a little Parklife.

I don’t know what your beef is with me, Iberian.
You seem to have taken a very personal dislike to me without actually taking part in any kind of discussion with me, ever.
Troll, you say…

Don't take it personally, I dislike trolls in general.
This was supposed to be a post dedicated to a great civil servant that also served the government of Cameron.
However,with your infatuation with BST,you just couldn't help yours3lf.

It was never intended to be that (in my opinion, of course). It should have been, but the opening post made it something else, which I (and many others, it seems) thought it crass at best.

One other thing: you calling me a ‘troll’ doesn’t make it true.

And another thing: Billy chose to ignore my comments a long, long time ago. That’s his choice. I’d be very surprised if he thought he needed someone like you speaking on his behalf.

It’s like you’ve taken it upon yourself to be Mark Weaver to Billy’s Ken Richardson.

[tommy toes]

Funny how another poster has noticed what you're up to.
I haven't made any comment about you for ages.
You've posted on the Succession thread and I have ignored you as I have done for months, and will continue to do, no smart arsed comments.
I only commented on BST's topic last night as I'd had one too many on our anniversary, usually I no longer get involved as I know you and BB will start.
You will find I haven't posted much on here at all apart from Wordle, which I assume you don't read (don't blame you! )

[belton rover]

Funny how another poster has noticed what you're up to.
I haven't made any comment about you for ages.
You've posted on the Succession thread and I have ignored you as I have done for months, and will continue to do, no smart arsed comments.
I only commented on BST's topic last night as I'd had one too many on our anniversary, usually I no longer get involved as I know you and BB will start.
You will find I haven't posted much on here at all apart from Wordle, which I assume you don't read (don't blame you! )

But you don’t continue to ignore me.
Like I said, count ‘em up.

You assume, without actually reading and digesting, that any comment I make in response to Billy’s posts is to get a rise from him.

If you could bring yourself to read my first post on here without already having an opinion about what I must be doing, you’ll see nothing wrong with it. Just giving my opinion on why Billy’s opening post was asking for trouble.

The post that Iberian commented on, where I was attempting some sarcasm, was in total exasperation that Billy was ridiculously back tracking and telling us that, given what we already know about his views on recent cabinet ministers, that ‘recent cabinet ministers’ actually meant cabinet ministers from many years and cabinets ago.

[Iberian Red]

No BST, You mentioned recent cabinet ministers in your opening post.

Yes!

"Recent" as opposed to "in the distant past"

If I'd meant "Tory" I'd have said "Tory". I'm not usually reticent on that.

YOU chose to assume I was making a party political point. Because you cannot help yourself.

It seems I’ve been finding the worst in Billy’s posts again.
Of course I should have realised that ‘recent cabinet ministers’ didn’t just mean the tory one for the past god knows how many years. It meant all cabinet ministers back to the days of…of…of…can anyone tell me when the distant past starts? Thatcher? Callaghan? Churchill?

10 out of 10 for persistent trolling.
As you have recommended to other posters,maybe it's time you had a break,got away from the keyboard and tried a little Parklife.

I don’t know what your beef is with me, Iberian.
You seem to have taken a very personal dislike to me without actually taking part in any kind of discussion with me, ever.
Troll, you say…

Don't take it personally, I dislike trolls in general.
This was supposed to be a post dedicated to a great civil servant that also served the government of Cameron.
However,with your infatuation with BST,you just couldn't help yours3lf.

It was never intended to be that (in my opinion, of course). It should have been, but the opening post made it something else, which I (and many others, it seems) thought it crass at best.

One other thing: you calling me a ‘troll’ doesn’t make it true.

And another thing: Billy chose to ignore my comments a long, long time ago. That’s his choice. I’d be very surprised if he thought he needed someone like you speaking on his behalf.

It’s like you’ve taken it upon yourself to be Mark Weaver to Billy’s Ken Richardson.

Hahaha ha,'kin hilarious.
95% of your posts remind me of an 80s hit by Animotion.

[BillyStubbsTears]

No BST, You mentioned recent cabinet ministers in your opening post.

Yes!

"Recent" as opposed to "in the distant past"

If I'd meant "Tory" I'd have said "Tory". I'm not usually reticent on that.

YOU chose to assume I was making a party political point. Because you cannot help yourself.

It seems I’ve been finding the worst in Billy’s posts again.
Of course I should have realised that ‘recent cabinet ministers’ didn’t just mean the tory one for the past god knows how many years. It meant all cabinet ministers back to the days of…of…of…can anyone tell me when the distant past starts? Thatcher? Callaghan? Churchill?

10 out of 10 for persistent trolling.
As you have recommended to other posters,maybe it's time you had a break,got away from the keyboard and tried a little Parklife.

I don’t know what your beef is with me, Iberian.
You seem to have taken a very personal dislike to me without actually taking part in any kind of discussion with me, ever.
Troll, you say…

Don't take it personally, I dislike trolls in general.
This was supposed to be a post dedicated to a great civil servant that also served the government of Cameron.
However,with your infatuation with BST,you just couldn't help yours3lf.

It was never intended to be that (in my opinion, of course). It should have been, but the opening post made it something else, which I (and many others, it seems) thought it crass at best.

One other thing: you calling me a ‘troll’ doesn’t make it true.

And another thing: Billy chose to ignore my comments a long, long time ago. That’s his choice. I’d be very surprised if he thought he needed someone like you speaking on his behalf.

It’s like you’ve taken it upon yourself to be Mark Weaver to Billy’s Ken Richardson.

Hahaha ha,'kin hilarious.
95% of your posts remind me of an 80s hit by Animotion.

Unfortunately,  you are wasting your time IR.

Belton decided years ago that he had the right to read the worst possible intention into anything I post on here. It was very wearing which is why I disengaged with dealing with him.

He's clearly not changed, given that post you’ve responded to. He's convinced he knows that I have nefarious intentions and nothing is going to deflect him from that.

It's actually very sad, but it's his choice.

[belton rover]

No BST, You mentioned recent cabinet ministers in your opening post.

Yes!

"Recent" as opposed to "in the distant past"

If I'd meant "Tory" I'd have said "Tory". I'm not usually reticent on that.

YOU chose to assume I was making a party political point. Because you cannot help yourself.

It seems I’ve been finding the worst in Billy’s posts again.
Of course I should have realised that ‘recent cabinet ministers’ didn’t just mean the tory one for the past god knows how many years. It meant all cabinet ministers back to the days of…of…of…can anyone tell me when the distant past starts? Thatcher? Callaghan? Churchill?

10 out of 10 for persistent trolling.
As you have recommended to other posters,maybe it's time you had a break,got away from the keyboard and tried a little Parklife.

I don’t know what your beef is with me, Iberian.
You seem to have taken a very personal dislike to me without actually taking part in any kind of discussion with me, ever.
Troll, you say…

Don't take it personally, I dislike trolls in general.
This was supposed to be a post dedicated to a great civil servant that also served the government of Cameron.
However,with your infatuation with BST,you just couldn't help yours3lf.

It was never intended to be that (in my opinion, of course). It should have been, but the opening post made it something else, which I (and many others, it seems) thought it crass at best.

One other thing: you calling me a ‘troll’ doesn’t make it true.

And another thing: Billy chose to ignore my comments a long, long time ago. That’s his choice. I’d be very surprised if he thought he needed someone like you speaking on his behalf.

It’s like you’ve taken it upon yourself to be Mark Weaver to Billy’s Ken Richardson.

Hahaha ha,'kin hilarious.
95% of your posts remind me of an 80s hit by Animotion.

Never heard of them. Is it a song about integrity, a great sense of humour, and love?

What about the other 5%? I hope it’s Jo Dolce’s ‘Shaddapya Face’.

[belton rover]

No BST, You mentioned recent cabinet ministers in your opening post.

Yes!

"Recent" as opposed to "in the distant past"

If I'd meant "Tory" I'd have said "Tory". I'm not usually reticent on that.

YOU chose to assume I was making a party political point. Because you cannot help yourself.

It seems I’ve been finding the worst in Billy’s posts again.
Of course I should have realised that ‘recent cabinet ministers’ didn’t just mean the tory one for the past god knows how many years. It meant all cabinet ministers back to the days of…of…of…can anyone tell me when the distant past starts? Thatcher? Callaghan? Churchill?

10 out of 10 for persistent trolling.
As you have recommended to other posters,maybe it's time you had a break,got away from the keyboard and tried a little Parklife.

I don’t know what your beef is with me, Iberian.
You seem to have taken a very personal dislike to me without actually taking part in any kind of discussion with me, ever.
Troll, you say…

Don't take it personally, I dislike trolls in general.
This was supposed to be a post dedicated to a great civil servant that also served the government of Cameron.
However,with your infatuation with BST,you just couldn't help yours3lf.

It was never intended to be that (in my opinion, of course). It should have been, but the opening post made it something else, which I (and many others, it seems) thought it crass at best.

One other thing: you calling me a ‘troll’ doesn’t make it true.

And another thing: Billy chose to ignore my comments a long, long time ago. That’s his choice. I’d be very surprised if he thought he needed someone like you speaking on his behalf.

It’s like you’ve taken it upon yourself to be Mark Weaver to Billy’s Ken Richardson.

Hahaha ha,'kin hilarious.
95% of your posts remind me of an 80s hit by Animotion.

Unfortunately,  you are wasting your time IR.

Belton decided years ago that he had the right to read the worst possible intention into anything I post on here. It was very wearing which is why I disengaged with dealing with him.

He's clearly not changed, given that post you’ve responded to. He's convinced he knows that I have nefarious intentions and nothing is going to deflect him from that.

It's actually very sad, but it's his choice.

Again, Billy. Read my posts and comment, or don’t and don’t.

[tommy toes]

You count em up, if your so certain. Then I'll admit it.
Ain't holding my breath.

No doubt you'll want the last word to feel vindicated, so off you go.

[Iberian Red]

No BST, You mentioned recent cabinet ministers in your opening post.

Yes!

"Recent" as opposed to "in the distant past"

If I'd meant "Tory" I'd have said "Tory". I'm not usually reticent on that.

YOU chose to assume I was making a party political point. Because you cannot help yourself.

It seems I’ve been finding the worst in Billy’s posts again.
Of course I should have realised that ‘recent cabinet ministers’ didn’t just mean the tory one for the past god knows how many years. It meant all cabinet ministers back to the days of…of…of…can anyone tell me when the distant past starts? Thatcher? Callaghan? Churchill?

10 out of 10 for persistent trolling.
As you have recommended to other posters,maybe it's time you had a break,got away from the keyboard and tried a little Parklife.

I don’t know what your beef is with me, Iberian.
You seem to have taken a very personal dislike to me without actually taking part in any kind of discussion with me, ever.
Troll, you say…

Don't take it personally, I dislike trolls in general.
This was supposed to be a post dedicated to a great civil servant that also served the government of Cameron.
However,with your infatuation with BST,you just couldn't help yours3lf.

It was never intended to be that (in my opinion, of course). It should have been, but the opening post made it something else, which I (and many others, it seems) thought it crass at best.

One other thing: you calling me a ‘troll’ doesn’t make it true.

And another thing: Billy chose to ignore my comments a long, long time ago. That’s his choice. I’d be very surprised if he thought he needed someone like you speaking on his behalf.

It’s like you’ve taken it upon yourself to be Mark Weaver to Billy’s Ken Richardson.

Hahaha ha,'kin hilarious.
95% of your posts remind me of an 80s hit by Animotion.

Never heard of them. Is it a song about integrity, a great sense of humour, and love?

What about the other 5%? I hope it’s Jo Dolce’s ‘Shaddapya Face’.

No the other 5% I imagine you sing along to Ivor Biggun.

[wilts rover]

Feed the trolls and they will bore.

Wilts, did you really think he meant anything other than cabinet ministers beyond the last 13 years.
Come on, really, did you.

If someone played for Rovers recently, is that in the past couple of seasons? 5 years ago? 10 years ago? 20 years ago? It means whatever people want it mean.

Why people have started an argument in a post about a civil servant passing away is best known to those people.

[Bentley Bullet]

No one has done BST any favours by continuing this thread. I was prepared to let it slide down the thread list into obscurity because I'm not one to gloat, and that's exactly what I would have been doing if I'd continued to provide evidence that the OP was more than a eulogy, and had obvious political anti-Tory tones. As it turns out, the thread hasn't yet run its course, so I'll continue to stick my two-penn'orth in.

BST wrote, it happens time and again when certain people wade in to discussions in here.

His use of the word discussion is testimony to the direction in which he wanted the thread to go. His post should have been intended as a mark of respect, not something to discuss. What would there have been to discuss had he not included political opinion in his post?

[BillyStubbsTears]

For the umpteenth time, I did not, ever, at any point in this thread include any political opinion.

You did. Immediately.

Then you've got the gall to lecture people on showing respect?

[belton rover]

No BST, You mentioned recent cabinet ministers in your opening post.

Yes!

"Recent" as opposed to "in the distant past"

If I'd meant "Tory" I'd have said "Tory". I'm not usually reticent on that.

YOU chose to assume I was making a party political point. Because you cannot help yourself.

It seems I’ve been finding the worst in Billy’s posts again.
Of course I should have realised that ‘recent cabinet ministers’ didn’t just mean the tory one for the past god knows how many years. It meant all cabinet ministers back to the days of…of…of…can anyone tell me when the distant past starts? Thatcher? Callaghan? Churchill?

10 out of 10 for persistent trolling.
As you have recommended to other posters,maybe it's time you had a break,got away from the keyboard and tried a little Parklife.

I don’t know what your beef is with me, Iberian.
You seem to have taken a very personal dislike to me without actually taking part in any kind of discussion with me, ever.
Troll, you say…

Don't take it personally, I dislike trolls in general.
This was supposed to be a post dedicated to a great civil servant that also served the government of Cameron.
However,with your infatuation with BST,you just couldn't help yours3lf.

It was never intended to be that (in my opinion, of course). It should have been, but the opening post made it something else, which I (and many others, it seems) thought it crass at best.

One other thing: you calling me a ‘troll’ doesn’t make it true.

And another thing: Billy chose to ignore my comments a long, long time ago. That’s his choice. I’d be very surprised if he thought he needed someone like you speaking on his behalf.

It’s like you’ve taken it upon yourself to be Mark Weaver to Billy’s Ken Richardson.

Hahaha ha,'kin hilarious.
95% of your posts remind me of an 80s hit by Animotion.

Never heard of them. Is it a song about integrity, a great sense of humour, and love?

What about the other 5%? I hope it’s Jo Dolce’s ‘Shaddapya Face’.

No the other 5% I imagine you sing along to Ivor Biggun.

Very good - I like a sense of humour.
Keep it up. The forum needs it.

[Bentley Bullet]

For the umpteenth time, I did not, ever, at any point in this thread include any political opinion.

I find it hard not to read that in a Bill Clinton accent when he refused to swallow the story about Monica Lewinsky.