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The need for the establishment to present a moralistic front, a squeeky clean to aspire to is a form of social control, but is deeply dishonest and messed up. That people on the whole buy into that shows how messed up most people are.This country, and others, has been ruled by people with the sickest of lifestyles for eternity. There are limits of behaviour of course. Huw's delvings don't seem to have gone much beyond the line, if at all.Media distraction.
So, how do we get an honest, squeaky-clean establishment?
Quote from: drfchound on July 13, 2023, 09:26:28 amAbsolutely and we have plenty of that on this very forum.This post is a prime example
Absolutely and we have plenty of that on this very forum.
Quote from: Iberian Red on July 13, 2023, 02:36:10 pmQuote from: drfchound on July 13, 2023, 09:26:28 amAbsolutely and we have plenty of that on this very forum.This post is a prime exampleOf what.I looked at your post history today.You didn’t put anything on here for three years and since coming back almost all of your posts are having a go at myself, BB and Belton.And you have the nerve to call other posters trolls.Oh, and your post above is a perfect example.
Here’s another question. 3 years ago, HE was 58. What sort of arena, online platform etc was he exploring to make contact with a 17 yr old drug user? Was it an online crotchet forum?Or perhaps cooking? New allegations over abuse of power within the beeb. Suggestive inappropriate comments made to junior staff members . Dishonest infidelity with his wife of many years.Meeting another during lockdown in another county. It doesn’t look good does it?
Quote from: drfchound on July 13, 2023, 06:35:32 pmQuote from: Iberian Red on July 13, 2023, 02:36:10 pmQuote from: drfchound on July 13, 2023, 09:26:28 amAbsolutely and we have plenty of that on this very forum.This post is a prime exampleOf what.I looked at your post history today.You didn’t put anything on here for three years and since coming back almost all of your posts are having a go at myself, BB and Belton.And you have the nerve to call other posters trolls.Oh, and your post above is a perfect example.Reading my posts history! I've got a stalker,I must be a celebrity. Fame at last.
Quote from: Bentley Bullet on July 13, 2023, 05:25:19 pmSo, how do we get an honest, squeaky-clean establishment?Not voting for serial liars/law breakers would be a good place to start!
It's going to be interesting to see how The Sc*m cover this breaking story about one of their ex-journalists and current right-wing tv presenter. Who despite being extremely vocal about HE and cover-ups has now suddenly 'gone on leave'.
Ask nudga Belts.It could be that rabid right winger Terry Christain
Quote from: wilts rover on July 13, 2023, 10:11:05 pmIt's going to be interesting to see how The Sc*m cover this breaking story about one of their ex-journalists and current right-wing tv presenter. Who despite being extremely vocal about HE and cover-ups has now suddenly 'gone on leave'.Who is this, Wilts?
Quote from: Iberian Red on July 13, 2023, 05:36:43 pmQuote from: Bentley Bullet on July 13, 2023, 05:25:19 pmSo, how do we get an honest, squeaky-clean establishment?Not voting for serial liars/law breakers would be a good place to start!Not allowing individuals and families to hold so much power/wealth is another.
https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/21/police-called-to-loud-altercation-at-boris-johnsons-homehttps://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-wallpaper-gold-flat-carrie-invoice-b2118185.htmlWas this journalism also condemned on this forum for invasion of privacy, or was it ok because it was someone you didn’t like?
Quote from: ncRover on July 14, 2023, 07:32:25 amhttps://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/21/police-called-to-loud-altercation-at-boris-johnsons-homehttps://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-wallpaper-gold-flat-carrie-invoice-b2118185.htmlWas this journalism also condemned on this forum for invasion of privacy, or was it ok because it was someone you didn’t like?So you don't see the difference between the private life of a newsreader and the private life of the man that people will vote to be the person with their finger on the button?
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on July 14, 2023, 10:20:58 amQuote from: ncRover on July 14, 2023, 07:32:25 amhttps://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/21/police-called-to-loud-altercation-at-boris-johnsons-homehttps://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-wallpaper-gold-flat-carrie-invoice-b2118185.htmlWas this journalism also condemned on this forum for invasion of privacy, or was it ok because it was someone you didn’t like?So you don't see the difference between the private life of a newsreader and the private life of the man that people will vote to be the person with their finger on the button?I don’t really have an opinion on either. It is what it is with a free press. I do think Huw should be left alone while he’s unwell and can’t respond to allegations.The public helps to pay the salary of both. But the “be kind” brigade do seem to be quite selective. I would bet the reaction would be different even if it was an Andrew Neil or Jeremy Clarkson while they were at the BBC.
Quote from: ncRover on July 14, 2023, 10:38:56 amQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on July 14, 2023, 10:20:58 amQuote from: ncRover on July 14, 2023, 07:32:25 amhttps://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/21/police-called-to-loud-altercation-at-boris-johnsons-homehttps://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-wallpaper-gold-flat-carrie-invoice-b2118185.htmlWas this journalism also condemned on this forum for invasion of privacy, or was it ok because it was someone you didn’t like?So you don't see the difference between the private life of a newsreader and the private life of the man that people will vote to be the person with their finger on the button?I don’t really have an opinion on either. It is what it is with a free press. I do think Huw should be left alone while he’s unwell and can’t respond to allegations.The public helps to pay the salary of both. But the “be kind” brigade do seem to be quite selective. I would bet the reaction would be different even if it was an Andrew Neil or Jeremy Clarkson while they were at the BBC.Aren’t we all guilty of selective ‘be kind’ to some degree?Take Edwards V Schofield, for example. My personal thoughts are that I feel sad for Edwards yet think of Schofield that he deserves everything that has come to him.Why? No other reason than I liked watching Edwards and perceive him to be a nice chap, whereas I couldn’t abide watching Schofield on the box.