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BillyStubbsTears

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GB News
« on September 23, 2023, 12:09:12 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Any of you watching that far right propaganda sewer, just be aware of what their presenters are like.

This is that loon-eyed headcase Neil Oliver giving a thumbs up to Holocaust denial.

https://x.com/DrMatthewSweet/status/1705354121480425969?s=20

If you watch it, you're doing so in the full knowledge of what they are doing. Your choice.



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glosterred

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Re: GB News
« Reply #1 on September 23, 2023, 12:58:37 pm by glosterred »
So what news channels are acceptable to you for me to watch then?



DonnyOsmond

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Re: GB News
« Reply #2 on September 23, 2023, 03:56:53 pm by DonnyOsmond »
So what news channels are acceptable to you for me to watch then?




BBC and Sky are usually alright.

ravenrover

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Re: GB News
« Reply #3 on September 23, 2023, 04:31:48 pm by ravenrover »
I thought OFCOM said GB News wasn't a news channel?

Sprotyrover

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Re: GB News
« Reply #4 on September 23, 2023, 05:23:10 pm by Sprotyrover »
Al Jazeera not bad

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: GB News
« Reply #5 on September 23, 2023, 05:47:37 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
So what news channels are acceptable to you for me to watch then?




Watch it by all means. Just do it in the knowledge that the presenters are conspiracy theory headcases.

belton rover

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Re: GB News
« Reply #6 on September 23, 2023, 05:49:53 pm by belton rover »
So what news channels are acceptable to you for me to watch then?




Watch it by all means. Just do it in the knowledge that the presenters are conspiracy theory headcases.
All of them?

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: GB News
« Reply #7 on September 23, 2023, 05:59:05 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
So what news channels are acceptable to you for me to watch then?




Watch it by all means. Just do it in the knowledge that the presenters are conspiracy theory headcases.
All of them?

My take is that having one who openly supports Holocaust denial and is kept in post is enough to make you question the editorial policy. What's your's?

belton rover

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Re: GB News
« Reply #8 on September 23, 2023, 06:30:45 pm by belton rover »
So what news channels are acceptable to you for me to watch then?




Watch it by all means. Just do it in the knowledge that the presenters are conspiracy theory headcases.
All of them?

My take is that having one who openly supports Holocaust denial and is kept in post is enough to make you question the editorial policy. What's your's?
My take is that if one person in an organisation is a bad ‘un (for whatever reason) it doesn’t mean the rest are guilty of the same thing.

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: GB News
« Reply #9 on September 23, 2023, 07:11:42 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
And if the "wrong un" stays in post, what do you conclude about the organisation's overall policy? Do you assume they are generally OK, despite hosting someone with those views?

glosterred

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Re: GB News
« Reply #10 on September 23, 2023, 07:15:22 pm by glosterred »
So what news channels are acceptable to you for me to watch then?




Watch it by all means. Just do it in the knowledge that the presenters are conspiracy theory headcases.

You haven’t answered the question there. So what news channel are acceptable to you for me to watch?



Iberian Red

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Re: GB News
« Reply #11 on September 23, 2023, 07:44:33 pm by Iberian Red »
I won't entertain that b*llocks of a pile of wa&k.
Unfortunately idiots do watch it .

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: GB News
« Reply #12 on September 23, 2023, 08:11:51 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
So what news channels are acceptable to you for me to watch then?




Watch it by all means. Just do it in the knowledge that the presenters are conspiracy theory headcases.

You haven’t answered the question there. So what news channel are acceptable to you for me to watch?




I didn't tell you not to watch it. So it's a non-question. But if you want to answer it yourself, I'd start by looking at whether a station employs rabid anti-Semite conspiracy theorists as presenters, wouldn't you?

belton rover

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Re: GB News
« Reply #13 on September 23, 2023, 08:19:15 pm by belton rover »
Billy. You said that all of the presenters of GB news were conspiracy theory head cases.
If you didn’t mean that, then fine, but that comment is a conspiracy theory itself.


BillyStubbsTears

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Re: GB News
« Reply #14 on September 23, 2023, 08:57:31 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Belton.

I'm not going into a syntax argument with you.

They have presenters (plural) who are anti-semitic conspiracy theorists, loud and proud in public. That's the substantive point. If you want to discuss that, I'm game.

Iberian Red

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Re: GB News
« Reply #15 on September 23, 2023, 09:08:31 pm by Iberian Red »
Unfortunately,
idiots.

Let them rot.

belton rover

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Re: GB News
« Reply #16 on September 23, 2023, 09:24:39 pm by belton rover »
I don’t want a syntax argument either. I simply asked of you thought they were all conspiracy theory head cases, as you inferred. A yes or no would have done.
You’ve kind of answered that now, so thanks.
« Last Edit: September 23, 2023, 09:30:16 pm by belton rover »

Iberian Red

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Re: GB News
« Reply #17 on September 23, 2023, 09:26:45 pm by Iberian Red »
I don’t want a syntax argument either. I simply asked of you thought they were all conspiracy theory head cases, as you inferred. A yes or know would have done.
You’ve kind of answered that now, so thanks.

Not even a question,but you've responded to my above statement.
Thanks

Iberian Red

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Re: GB News
« Reply #18 on September 23, 2023, 09:48:22 pm by Iberian Red »
I don’t want a syntax argument either. I simply asked of you thought they were all conspiracy theory head cases, as you inferred. A yes or no would have done.
You’ve kind of answered that now, so thanks.
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Thank Christ for that .
I hope you aren't still correcting A level exams.
Terrible Use of Language  :lol:

glosterred

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Re: GB News
« Reply #19 on September 24, 2023, 07:59:17 am by glosterred »
So what news channels are acceptable to you for me to watch then?




Watch it by all means. Just do it in the knowledge that the presenters are conspiracy theory headcases.

You haven’t answered the question there. So what news channel are acceptable to you for me to watch?




I didn't tell you not to watch it. So it's a non-question. But if you want to answer it yourself, I'd start by looking at whether a station employs rabid anti-Semite conspiracy theorists as presenters, wouldn't you?

So now you want to censor free speech?


« Last Edit: September 24, 2023, 08:41:06 am by glosterred »

wilts rover

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Re: GB News
« Reply #20 on September 24, 2023, 09:19:36 am by wilts rover »
So what news channels are acceptable to you for me to watch then?




Watch it by all means. Just do it in the knowledge that the presenters are conspiracy theory headcases.

You haven’t answered the question there. So what news channel are acceptable to you for me to watch?




I didn't tell you not to watch it. So it's a non-question. But if you want to answer it yourself, I'd start by looking at whether a station employs rabid anti-Semite conspiracy theorists as presenters, wouldn't you?

So now you want to censor free speech?




Holacaust denial = free speech.

Nothing else needs adding here.

drfchound

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Re: GB News
« Reply #21 on September 24, 2023, 09:31:24 am by drfchound »
Just a thought here, the OP mentions a certain news channel and tells us about the presenters views so it is fair to think that he has watched that channel and yet The Deflector tells us all that only idiots watch that it.

belton rover

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Re: GB News
« Reply #22 on September 24, 2023, 09:32:08 am by belton rover »
I’ve just looked at that link again. What is it supposed to actually be?
Someone has commented on someone liking a documentary, I think. Someone says ‘this is brilliant’. What is it that he likes about it? Is Oliver really a holocaust denier?
Now it seems to have morphed into GB news welcoming holocaust deniers, and GB news viewers being guilty by association.




wilts rover

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« Reply #23 on September 24, 2023, 11:15:42 am by wilts rover »
Never seen the channel myself Belton but I have read comment on it.

Is Oliver really a holocaust denier? He invites known holocaust deniers on his show and does not challenge them about it.

If there really is no problem with the interview - why have GB New deleted the clip from their website?

Was this a one off or does Oliver have a history of antisemitism?

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2023/feb/08/jewish-groups-urge-gb-news-to-stop-indulging-conspiracy-theories

I find the Jewish press a good place to start when discussing if people are/are not holocaust deniers/anti-semites.

https://www.thejc.com/news/news/outrage-as-gb-news-interviews-former-holocaust-denier-about-demographics-on-primetime-1TQFE0EWsIPWI1wVaW4aDP

https://www.jewishnews.co.uk/gb-news-invites-guest-who-denied-holocaust-on-to-show-to-discuss-population-decline/

All these things are out there for people/GB viewers to find if they are interested in them. Or maybe they just don't want to find them because they agree with them and dont want to be reminded what they are?

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: GB News
« Reply #24 on September 24, 2023, 11:32:45 am by BillyStubbsTears »
Belton.

No-one is saying that viewers are "guilty by association". Please don't make that sort of unwarranted, incorrect assumption.

The reason I posted this was to point out what GB News is normalising. I think it is extremely dangerous, and that the viewers have a right to know. It's then their decision what they do with that knowledge.

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Re: GB News
« Reply #25 on September 24, 2023, 11:46:18 am by belton rover »
Belton.

No-one is saying that viewers are "guilty by association". Please don't make that sort of unwarranted, incorrect assumption.

The reason I posted this was to point out what GB News is normalising. I think it is extremely dangerous, and that the viewers have a right to know. It's then their decision what they do with that knowledge.
If my assumption is incorrect, then I apologise. Based on the information I had, however, I don’t think what I said was unwarranted.
If you feel you need to educate GB News viewers, then that’s your prerogative, fill your boots.

I have never watched GB News, by the way, but I might give it a go now and see what the kerfuffle is. Though I suspect that’s what GB News really wants - more viewers.

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« Reply #26 on September 24, 2023, 11:52:34 am by belton rover »
Never seen the channel myself Belton but I have read comment on it.

Is Oliver really a holocaust denier? He invites known holocaust deniers on his show and does not challenge them about it.

If there really is no problem with the interview - why have GB New deleted the clip from their website?

Was this a one off or does Oliver have a history of antisemitism?

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2023/feb/08/jewish-groups-urge-gb-news-to-stop-indulging-conspiracy-theories

I find the Jewish press a good place to start when discussing if people are/are not holocaust deniers/anti-semites.

https://www.thejc.com/news/news/outrage-as-gb-news-interviews-former-holocaust-denier-about-demographics-on-primetime-1TQFE0EWsIPWI1wVaW4aDP

https://www.jewishnews.co.uk/gb-news-invites-guest-who-denied-holocaust-on-to-show-to-discuss-population-decline/

All these things are out there for people/GB viewers to find if they are interested in them. Or maybe they just don't want to find them because they agree with them and dont want to be reminded what they are?
The title of the thread is ‘GB News’ not ‘Neil Oliver’.

Surely the fact that GBN have taken down the clip suggests they don’t promote that view and have acted upon it.
Well done GB News, if that’s the case.

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: GB News
« Reply #27 on September 24, 2023, 01:28:38 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
So what news channels are acceptable to you for me to watch then?




Watch it by all means. Just do it in the knowledge that the presenters are conspiracy theory headcases.

You haven’t answered the question there. So what news channel are acceptable to you for me to watch?




I didn't tell you not to watch it. So it's a non-question. But if you want to answer it yourself, I'd start by looking at whether a station employs rabid anti-Semite conspiracy theorists as presenters, wouldn't you?

So now you want to censor free speech?




No. I'm saying that if you choose to watch that channel, you should, as an intelligent adult, be aware of what they condone from their presenters.

The fact that this seems to be getting you rather wound up is a bit worrying to be honest. I'd have thought the issue about whether the Holocaust happened was a matter of historical fact, and most grown ups would agree that anyone who suggests it didn't is a bit of a problem.

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Re: GB News
« Reply #28 on September 24, 2023, 01:46:34 pm by wilts rover »
Never seen the channel myself Belton but I have read comment on it.

Is Oliver really a holocaust denier? He invites known holocaust deniers on his show and does not challenge them about it.

If there really is no problem with the interview - why have GB New deleted the clip from their website?

Was this a one off or does Oliver have a history of antisemitism?

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2023/feb/08/jewish-groups-urge-gb-news-to-stop-indulging-conspiracy-theories

I find the Jewish press a good place to start when discussing if people are/are not holocaust deniers/anti-semites.

https://www.thejc.com/news/news/outrage-as-gb-news-interviews-former-holocaust-denier-about-demographics-on-primetime-1TQFE0EWsIPWI1wVaW4aDP

https://www.jewishnews.co.uk/gb-news-invites-guest-who-denied-holocaust-on-to-show-to-discuss-population-decline/

All these things are out there for people/GB viewers to find if they are interested in them. Or maybe they just don't want to find them because they agree with them and dont want to be reminded what they are?
The title of the thread is ‘GB News’ not ‘Neil Oliver’.

Surely the fact that GBN have taken down the clip suggests they don’t promote that view and have acted upon it.
Well done GB News, if that’s the case.

The title of the thread is GN News. THe question in the OP of the thread is about the GB News presenter Neil Oliver. You asked me a question about Neil Oliver. Why do you suddenly have a question with me giving a detailed answer about Neil Oliver - the man who allows holocaust deniers and promotes anti-semitic conspiracy theories on his GB News show?

The fact GB News have taken down that clip, without comment or condemnation of it, tells me they are ashamed to have people other than GB News viewers see it. It does not tell me if they promote that view or not. Their lack of condemnation of it - or censure of Oliver for allowing it to happen - does.

It also tells me just as much about the people who post on here and refuse to condemn it.

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« Reply #29 on September 24, 2023, 02:00:51 pm by belton rover »
Sorry, Wilts, I probably shouldn’t have quoted your detailed post of Oliver to make mine. I knew almost nothing about Oliver before this thread. I would like to think that condemning a holocaust denier goes without saying. Just to be clear, I condemn any individual, or group that deny the holocaust.
I just don’t I’ve seen any evidence that GB News are promoting that view.

 

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