COVID Inquiry

[BobG]

I'm very glad there are others with knowledge of Dunning Kruger. I came across it maybe 12 years ago. I was so impressed I nicked a copy of the documentation. I still have it. And it is still very relevant.

BobG

[SydneyRover]

FT:

''Lee Cain said Johnson would “oscillate” and “take a decision from the last person in the room”. Johnson did not believe Covid was a “big deal ...''

What an opportunity right there

[SydneyRover]

Covid Inquiry

suspected collusion between the main players

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljjRZe6g5EM

[Ldr]

There you go Glyn.
BST, I don’t ever recall you saying you thought Cummings was telling the truth but I was right in saying that you said Cummings was running the country.
I can’t ever recall calling you out as a hypocrite either.
You just don’t like to be challenged and consistently dismiss or belittle anything or anyone who contradicts your point of view.
I also remember being told that advisors advise but Ministers decide but you seemed to buck the trend with your insistence that Cummings was running the show.
For what it is worth I agree with your description of Cummings by the way.
I have obviously touched a nerve here.
I now expect one or two of your forum buddies to jump on me, one in particular is almost certain to be along soon.

 

[roverstillidie91]

Covid Inquiry

suspected collusion between the main players

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljjRZe6g5EM

Absolutely disgusting the whole of it. Tories should never be aloud back in again.

[ravenrover]

Have I missed the posts talking about Johnson funnelling funds to the Evening Standard, owned by?

[SydneyRover]

Have I missed the posts talking about Johnson funnelling funds to the Evening Standard, owned by?

no, but thanks for the tip

''Dominic Cummings has alleged Boris Johnson was “funnelling money” to a newspaper run by his friend, George Osborne during the Covid-19 pandemic.

The former chief aid made the explosive accusations during an inquiry sitting this week, saying the PM would make sure government cash was spent on ads in newspapers such as the London Evening Standard, which Osborne was editor-in-chief of at the time.

It was also alleged by Lee Cain that the PM wanted to please the right-wing press by holding off on announcing a lockdown.

“The prime minister was becoming increasingly concerned about the impact of lockdowns on the economy and the political impact it was having on the right wing of the Conservative Party and the coverage of the right-leaning media,” Cain wrote in his written submission to the inquiry''

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/johnson-accused-of-funnelling-money-to-newspaper-run-by-osborne-362176/

[Filo]

Have I missed the posts talking about Johnson funnelling funds to the Evening Standard, owned by?

A certain Russian Lord owns the Evening Standard

[BobG]

Ennobled by said Johnson  too if my memory is not at fault...

BobG

[SydneyRover]

A 'special' hair dryer up the nose, bj as thick as trump

[mugnapper]

A 'special' hair dryer up the nose, bj as thick as trump

If only one of them had suggested blowing bleach up the nose with a hair dryer, Lister and Pasteur's achievements would be dwarfed by such intellectual Titans.

[Filo]

Anyone still believe he nearly died with Covid?

Publicity stunt in my eyes

[i_ateallthepies]

I for one, Filo believed it was a publicity stunt from the very start.

[Donnywolf]

I too smelled a Rat. Maybe it was a " look this is serious" even I have got it tactic though

There was a rumour that 2 Consultants were dismissed for not Signing the Official Secrets Act at the time

OK that was a rumour but there were other charges levelled at the time that the Govt were making bad calls and these are largely being confirmed by this Inquiry so why not this "rumour"

Interesting one though. If you personally had had COVID and recovered would you put yourself in harm's way again and again by working and mixing socially with hundreds of people who were coming into Number 10 hourly after being amongst the wider population of Greater London ?

[Filo]

I for one, Filo believed it was a publicity stunt from the very start.

Me too

[ravenrover]

Me three

[idler]

And me.

[Mike_F]

It appears that anyone with a modicum of common sense was in the same boat. I didn't believe it for a second.

[i_ateallthepies]

I too smelled a Rat. Maybe it was a " look this is serious" even I have got it tactic though

There was a rumour that 2 Consultants were dismissed for not Signing the Official Secrets Act at the time

OK that was a rumour but there were other charges levelled at the time that the Govt were making bad calls and these are largely being confirmed by this Inquiry so why not this "rumour"

Interesting one though. If you personally had had COVID and recovered would you put yourself in harm's way again and again by working and mixing socially with hundreds of people who were coming into Number 10 hourly after being amongst the wider population of Greater London ?

Good point, DW, especially given the severity of his supposed bout of the illness.

[ravenrover]

And as MacNamara said no social distancing!!
But all rules were followed!

[BillyStubbsTears]

I'll give you my two pennirth. There's an overwhelming reason to believe that Johnson wasn't faking it.

It's called "Dominic Cummings"

Cummings was Johnson's right hand man  at the time. It is inconceivable that he  wouldn't have known if the illness was a scam.

Since he was booted out, Cummings has thrown everything he has at Johnson. It's been brutal. But he still holds to the line that Johnson was very seriously ill.

That makes it very, very likely that Johnson's illness was genuine.

[i_ateallthepies]

Hand-cock wanted to be the decision-maker on prioritising treatment if the NHS was to be overwhelmed when the NHS already had processes for those decisions.  Words defy me to describe what I think about that Kitson... well there's a start I suppose.

[Nudga]

Is there any evidence to back up the allegations that three times the amount of midazolam was ordered from France in 2019/20?

[roverstillidie91]

https://fb.watch/o3MW5vZ67n/

[scawsby steve]

I'll give you my two pennirth. There's an overwhelming reason to believe that Johnson wasn't faking it.

It's called "Dominic Cummings"

Cummings was Johnson's right hand man  at the time. It is inconceivable that he  wouldn't have known if the illness was a scam.

Since he was booted out, Cummings has thrown everything he has at Johnson. It's been brutal. But he still holds to the line that Johnson was very seriously ill.

That makes it very, very likely that Johnson's illness was genuine.

At last, some common sense on the issue.

Also, most of the doctors and nurses working at St Thomas's, a highly rated hospital, would have had to be complicit in such a cover up.

Are there such liars working at such a remarkable hospital?

[Filo]

No one spends one night in intensive care, and no one gets discharged a couple of days later

[i_ateallthepies]

I'll give you my two pennirth. There's an overwhelming reason to believe that Johnson wasn't faking it.

It's called "Dominic Cummings"

Cummings was Johnson's right hand man  at the time. It is inconceivable that he  wouldn't have known if the illness was a scam.

Since he was booted out, Cummings has thrown everything he has at Johnson. It's been brutal. But he still holds to the line that Johnson was very seriously ill.

That makes it very, very likely that Johnson's illness was genuine.

That is not an unreasonable assumption, BST but if true then his subsequent behaviour in respect of observing the government's own Covid rules is like sticking two fingers up to the medical staff who cared for him.

[ravenrover]

I'll give you my two pennirth. There's an overwhelming reason to believe that Johnson wasn't faking it.

It's called "Dominic Cummings"

Cummings was Johnson's right hand man  at the time. It is inconceivable that he  wouldn't have known if the illness was a scam.

Since he was booted out, Cummings has thrown everything he has at Johnson. It's been brutal. But he still holds to the line that Johnson was very seriously ill.

That makes it very, very likely that Johnson's illness was genuine.

At last, some common sense on the issue.

Also, most of the doctors and nurses working at St Thomas's, a highly rated hospital, would have had to be complicit in such a cover up.

Are there such liars working at such a remarkable hospital?

Wasn't the Secrets Act mentioned somewhere. I seem to recall one of the nurses being interviewed but not saying much

[BillyStubbsTears]

I'll give you my two pennirth. There's an overwhelming reason to believe that Johnson wasn't faking it.

It's called "Dominic Cummings"

Cummings was Johnson's right hand man  at the time. It is inconceivable that he  wouldn't have known if the illness was a scam.

Since he was booted out, Cummings has thrown everything he has at Johnson. It's been brutal. But he still holds to the line that Johnson was very seriously ill.

That makes it very, very likely that Johnson's illness was genuine.

That is not an unreasonable assumption, BST but if true then his subsequent behaviour in respect of observing the government's own Covid rules is like sticking two fingers up to the medical staff who cared for him.

Of course. Because he's an amoral Kitson.

[ravenrover]

Just a wild thought, what if someone asked say Elon Musk or any of the other participants at the AI gathering whether they could recover Richies whats app messages or is that too ridiculous?