Joe Ironside stat

[drfchound]

I think Joe will get more than 10 from open play Gaz but I’m an eternal optimist

How many has he got already - 5 or 6 across all competitions? We’ve got at least 31 fixtures left so even if he was injured for a third of those games I’d back him to get 4 or 5 more.

Joe has eight goals this season including the FACup, Carabao Cup and League games.
I don’t know if he has scored in the FL Trophy games so might have more.

[ncRover]

He’s got 9 goals from 21 games in all competitions.

His best record was during the 21/22 season where he got 15 in all competitions with 14 League One.

He should beat that.

But even if he doesn’t get loads in the end he’s still very important.

[NickDRFC]

I think Joe will get more than 10 from open play Gaz but I’m an eternal optimist

How many has he got already - 5 or 6 across all competitions? We’ve got at least 31 fixtures left so even if he was injured for a third of those games I’d back him to get 4 or 5 more.

Joe has eight goals this season including the FACup, Carabao Cup and League games.
I don’t know if he has scored in the FL Trophy games so might have more.

Talking open play. He has scored 3 penalties I believe.

[Pancho Regan]

Joe won’t score more than 10 open play goals plus penalties this season.

GazLaz has spoken, you might as well pack in now Joe!

[GazLaz]

I think Joe will get more than 10 from open play Gaz but I’m an eternal optimist

How many has he got already - 5 or 6 across all competitions? We’ve got at least 31 fixtures left so even if he was injured for a third of those games I’d back him to get 4 or 5 more.

3 open play goals in the league.

[drfchound]

I think Joe will get more than 10 from open play Gaz but I’m an eternal optimist

How many has he got already - 5 or 6 across all competitions? We’ve got at least 31 fixtures left so even if he was injured for a third of those games I’d back him to get 4 or 5 more.

Joe has eight goals this season including the FACup, Carabao Cup and League games.
I don’t know if he has scored in the FL Trophy games so might have more.

Talking open play. He has scored 3 penalties I believe.

Penalties are not gimmes though are they.
They have to be put away and are still classed as goals.

[Pancho Regan]

I think Joe will get more than 10 from open play Gaz but I’m an eternal optimist

How many has he got already - 5 or 6 across all competitions? We’ve got at least 31 fixtures left so even if he was injured for a third of those games I’d back him to get 4 or 5 more.

Joe has eight goals this season including the FACup, Carabao Cup and League games.
I don’t know if he has scored in the FL Trophy games so might have more.

Talking open play. He has scored 3 penalties I believe.

Penalties are not gimmes though are they.
They have to be put away and are still classed as goals.

Well said hound.

I really struggle with the ‘goals plus penalties’ analysis.
Ironside is looking like an expert penalty taker, and that in itself is a skill.

Many ‘goals from open play’ are scored from within the six-yard box with no opponent between the scorer and the goal line.
So why distinguish between goals from open play and those from penalties?

Unless you’re GazLaz of course.

[NickDRFC]

I think Joe will get more than 10 from open play Gaz but I’m an eternal optimist

How many has he got already - 5 or 6 across all competitions? We’ve got at least 31 fixtures left so even if he was injured for a third of those games I’d back him to get 4 or 5 more.

Joe has eight goals this season including the FACup, Carabao Cup and League games.
I don’t know if he has scored in the FL Trophy games so might have more.

Talking open play. He has scored 3 penalties I believe.

Penalties are not gimmes though are they.
They have to be put away and are still classed as goals.

Obviously but GazLaz said “Joe won’t score more than 10 open play goals plus penalties this season”. Which is why roversdude and I replied talking about goals from open play…

[GazLaz]

I think Joe will get more than 10 from open play Gaz but I’m an eternal optimist

How many has he got already - 5 or 6 across all competitions? We’ve got at least 31 fixtures left so even if he was injured for a third of those games I’d back him to get 4 or 5 more.

Joe has eight goals this season including the FACup, Carabao Cup and League games.
I don’t know if he has scored in the FL Trophy games so might have more.

Talking open play. He has scored 3 penalties I believe.

Penalties are not gimmes though are they.
They have to be put away and are still classed as goals.

Penalties do take putting away but don’t really reflect the goal threat of a striker do they. There is likely to be a post on this site within the next two years saying “Joe is a workhorse but we need someone who is more of a goal threat if we are to get promoted”. It will be after he goes 8 or 10 games without scoring.

[Pancho Regan]

I think Joe will get more than 10 from open play Gaz but I’m an eternal optimist

How many has he got already - 5 or 6 across all competitions? We’ve got at least 31 fixtures left so even if he was injured for a third of those games I’d back him to get 4 or 5 more.

Joe has eight goals this season including the FACup, Carabao Cup and League games.
I don’t know if he has scored in the FL Trophy games so might have more.

Talking open play. He has scored 3 penalties I believe.

Penalties are not gimmes though are they.
They have to be put away and are still classed as goals.

There is likely to be a post on this site within the next two years saying “Joe is a workhorse but we need someone who is more of a goal threat if we are to get promoted”. It will be after he goes 8 or 10 games without scoring.

Any chance you could let me have next week’s lottery numbers Gaz?

Or tomorrow’s weather forecast….. ?

[Chris Black come back]

I think Joe will get more than 10 from open play Gaz but I’m an eternal optimist

How many has he got already - 5 or 6 across all competitions? We’ve got at least 31 fixtures left so even if he was injured for a third of those games I’d back him to get 4 or 5 more.

Joe has eight goals this season including the FACup, Carabao Cup and League games.
I don’t know if he has scored in the FL Trophy games so might have more.

Talking open play. He has scored 3 penalties I believe.

Penalties are not gimmes though are they.
They have to be put away and are still classed as goals.

Penalties do take putting away but don’t really reflect the goal threat of a striker do they. There is likely to be a post on this site within the next two years saying “Joe is a workhorse but we need someone who is more of a goal threat if we are to get promoted”. It will be after he goes 8 or 10 games without scoring.

He will always knock a few in but his gig is that the other guy will score more, right? Faal or Miller.

[BillyStubbsTears]

I think Joe will get more than 10 from open play Gaz but I’m an eternal optimist

How many has he got already - 5 or 6 across all competitions? We’ve got at least 31 fixtures left so even if he was injured for a third of those games I’d back him to get 4 or 5 more.

Joe has eight goals this season including the FACup, Carabao Cup and League games.
I don’t know if he has scored in the FL Trophy games so might have more.

Talking open play. He has scored 3 penalties I believe.

Penalties are not gimmes though are they.
They have to be put away and are still classed as goals.

Penalties do take putting away but don’t really reflect the goal threat of a striker do they. There is likely to be a post on this site within the next two years saying “Joe is a workhorse but we need someone who is more of a goal threat if we are to get promoted”. It will be after he goes 8 or 10 games without scoring.

We have a potential 20 goal striker in George Miller when he's fit. He's scored 15 for us in 35 starts, mostly whole playing in a side disintegrating around him.

He'd have twice that many if his left foot worked.

[ncRover]

I think Joe will get more than 10 from open play Gaz but I’m an eternal optimist

How many has he got already - 5 or 6 across all competitions? We’ve got at least 31 fixtures left so even if he was injured for a third of those games I’d back him to get 4 or 5 more.

Joe has eight goals this season including the FACup, Carabao Cup and League games.
I don’t know if he has scored in the FL Trophy games so might have more.

Talking open play. He has scored 3 penalties I believe.

Penalties are not gimmes though are they.
They have to be put away and are still classed as goals.

Penalties do take putting away but don’t really reflect the goal threat of a striker do they. There is likely to be a post on this site within the next two years saying “Joe is a workhorse but we need someone who is more of a goal threat if we are to get promoted”. It will be after he goes 8 or 10 games without scoring.

That’s Joe in to double figures in all comps.

In the league, 7 goals and 3 assists from 18 games is a brilliant record.

That’s more goal contributions than proven “prolific” strikers such as:

Dom Telford
Macauley Bonne
David McGoldrick
Andy Cook
Danny Johnson
Charlie Austin

[BillyStubbsTears]

I thought he had a quiet game yesterday but he took his goal excellently.

And the cross from Maxwell was sumptuous. He's by far the best crosser of a ball in the club. He has to be a first choice in a 5-3-2 formation.

[DMnumber4]

4/4 now for Ironside (coincidentally all at home)

Clarke-Harris, of Saturday's opponents Peterborough, has scored 29/36 career spot kicks. Decent going.

[drfchound]

4/4 now for Ironside (coincidentally all at home)

Clarke-Harris, of Saturday's opponents Peterborough, has scored 29/36 career spot kicks. Decent going.

It is good going.
The average for scoring pens is generally three out of four.
Clarke-Harris is better than that.

[NickDRFC]

4/4 now for Ironside (coincidentally all at home)

Clarke-Harris, of Saturday's opponents Peterborough, has scored 29/36 career spot kicks. Decent going.

It is good going.
The average for scoring pens is generally three out of four.
Clarke-Harris is better than that.

A good penalty taker should be at 4 in 5 or better. I imagine that Kane, Mbappe, Haaland etc would all be at 80%+ career record, maybe even 85%.

Which probably means that Ironside is a due a miss!

[ncRover]

According to footystats which includes his time at non-league level Joe has 25/29. So 86%.

https://footystats.org/players/england/joe-ironside#:~:text=Penalty%20Stats&text=Joe%20Ironside%20has%20taken%2028,rate%20for%20Ironside%20is%2085.71%25.

[drfchound]

4/4 now for Ironside (coincidentally all at home)

Clarke-Harris, of Saturday's opponents Peterborough, has scored 29/36 career spot kicks. Decent going.

It is good going.
The average for scoring pens is generally three out of four.
Clarke-Harris is better than that.

A good penalty taker should be at 4 in 5 or better. I imagine that Kane, Mbappe, Haaland etc would all be at 80%+ career record, maybe even 85%.

Which probably means that Ironside is a due a miss!

I would agree that top pen takers are up around 80% success rate, but even that is only marginally better than three out of four scored.
Over all though not all penalty takers are that good and three scored in every four taken is about the average.
A quick Google shows that some top players don’t have good records from the spot.
Riyad  Mahrez and Michael Owen scored 67% of theirs in the PL while Paul Pogba scored 65%.
There are dozens of searches that can be made, how many at PL level, how many at International level etc, but InStat give the following overall stats:

“About 75 per cent of the time, penalty kicks are converted.

According to InStat, the most reliable men from the spot are those aged 32 or 33 – they have the highest success rate of 77.13 per cent. Unsurprisingly, the least dependable are the 18 and 19-year-olds, whose miss one in four on average.

Despite forwards being the more prolific from the spot, with a conversion rate of 75.99 per cent, it’s actually midfielders who tend to take them more, with in excess of 45,000 penalties compared to strikers, with just more than 32,000”.

And yes, Ironside is due a miss.

[roversdude]

Anyone notice the Ironside Decorators van in the car park on Tuesday
Grant stated that Cliff said Joe took some rubbish pens in training

[i_ateallthepies]

His penalty on Tuesday was only a couple of inches off being a miss.  No bad thing I guess to give him a missed beat, just keep him fully concentrating on the next one.

[BillyStubbsTears]

His penalty on Tuesday was only a couple of inches off being a miss.  No bad thing I guess to give him a missed beat, just keep him fully concentrating on the next one.

He takes quite superb penalties. They are hit with pace and put into the very extremities of the goal. If he gets them on target, no keeper in the world can save them. It's inevitable that he'll miss the target eventually, but overall I think he's playing very sensible odds with that approach.

[ncRover]

That’s Joe in to double figures in the league with 24 apps 10 goals.

6 from open play at the half way point Gaz!

[danumdon]

Would love to see Ironside, with the right players for the formation, playing in a 442 with a quality (for our league) goal poacher playing close to him. With Sterry back in at full back if we could get some quality balls in from both sides he could really create some carnage and with the right player next to him some extra goals.