Inheritance Tax

[Glyn_Wigley]

My point is how do you get enough votes to win an election if you work for the minority and not the majority?

When you know you're definitely going to lose the next election, that's the time you do all the unpopular (or self-serving) stuff that could well lose you an election you might win otherwise.

So, as BB asked, how did the Tory’s win by a landslide in 2019.
Are you saying they were just looking after their mates pre election, or was it that not enough people trusted Labour to run the country.

Read and ye shall discover true meaning.

BB didn't ask about 2019 in his post I quoted so I didn't address it.

And I said nothing about the last election, nor any specific party so I don't know why you think I did.

Well if you are being picky, I will be too.
BB didn’t ask about what to do if you want to lose an election but you chose to comment on that.

I didn't say anything about wanting to lose an election either so f**k knows what you're being picky about. You really ought to try reading and replying to what people actually write instead of what you convince yourself they've written.

[danumdon]

But the rich friends of the Tories are only a tiny representation of voters, how did the Tory party win by a landslide in 2019?

Really?

Most voters will go with where the beeb, the Sun etc sends them. Why otherwise would turkeys vote for Christmas?

Add on the desperate efforts the establishment will go in its propaganda and lies to avoid policies that do serve the many rather than the few.

The proposed dumping of inheritance tax is disgusting. Most people don't even know how it works and believe they might be affected. If they are affected and they therefore vote tory then they're not fit for life, just greedy spongers.

I'm still trying to work out what this paragraph's actually saying,

Anyone, no me neither!

[drfchound]

My point is how do you get enough votes to win an election if you work for the minority and not the majority?

When you know you're definitely going to lose the next election, that's the time you do all the unpopular (or self-serving) stuff that could well lose you an election you might win otherwise.

So, as BB asked, how did the Tory’s win by a landslide in 2019.
Are you saying they were just looking after their mates pre election, or was it that not enough people trusted Labour to run the country.

Read and ye shall discover true meaning.

BB didn't ask about 2019 in his post I quoted so I didn't address it.

And I said nothing about the last election, nor any specific party so I don't know why you think I did.

Well if you are being picky, I will be too.
BB didn’t ask about what to do if you want to lose an election but you chose to comment on that.

I didn't say anything about wanting to lose an election either so f**k knows what you're being picky about. You really ought to try reading and replying to what people actually write instead of what you convince yourself they've written.

Kin ell Glyn, ok, you didn’t say anything about WANTING to lose an election but you did expand on what a government might do if they know they are going to lose an election.
And BB hadn’t mentioned anything about that.
FFS, you are so difficult to have a meaningful conversation with.

[Glyn_Wigley]

My point is how do you get enough votes to win an election if you work for the minority and not the majority?

When you know you're definitely going to lose the next election, that's the time you do all the unpopular (or self-serving) stuff that could well lose you an election you might win otherwise.

So, as BB asked, how did the Tory’s win by a landslide in 2019.
Are you saying they were just looking after their mates pre election, or was it that not enough people trusted Labour to run the country.

Read and ye shall discover true meaning.

BB didn't ask about 2019 in his post I quoted so I didn't address it.

And I said nothing about the last election, nor any specific party so I don't know why you think I did.

Well if you are being picky, I will be too.
BB didn’t ask about what to do if you want to lose an election but you chose to comment on that.

I didn't say anything about wanting to lose an election either so f**k knows what you're being picky about. You really ought to try reading and replying to what people actually write instead of what you convince yourself they've written.

Kin ell Glyn, ok, you didn’t say anything about WANTING to lose an election but you did expand on what a government might do if they know they are going to lose an election.
And BB hadn’t mentioned anything about that.
FFS, you are so difficult to have a meaningful conversation with.

Of course BB didn't mention it, because it was my answer to his original question. If he already knew the answer he wouldn't have asked the question!!

Oh, and I didn't expand on anything. How could I, I was the first to talk about what a government could do if they knew they were going to lose and election.

Jesus wept. You're bloody difficult to talk to full stop because you don't understand written English, or pretend not to, it's hard to tell with you.

[drfchound]

My point is how do you get enough votes to win an election if you work for the minority and not the majority?

When you know you're definitely going to lose the next election, that's the time you do all the unpopular (or self-serving) stuff that could well lose you an election you might win otherwise.

So, as BB asked, how did the Tory’s win by a landslide in 2019.
Are you saying they were just looking after their mates pre election, or was it that not enough people trusted Labour to run the country.

Read and ye shall discover true meaning.

BB didn't ask about 2019 in his post I quoted so I didn't address it.

And I said nothing about the last election, nor any specific party so I don't know why you think I did.

Well if you are being picky, I will be too.
BB didn’t ask about what to do if you want to lose an election but you chose to comment on that.

I didn't say anything about wanting to lose an election either so f**k knows what you're being picky about. You really ought to try reading and replying to what people actually write instead of what you convince yourself they've written.

Kin ell Glyn, ok, you didn’t say anything about WANTING to lose an election but you did expand on what a government might do if they know they are going to lose an election.
And BB hadn’t mentioned anything about that.
FFS, you are so difficult to have a meaningful conversation with.

Of course BB didn't mention it, because it was my answer to his original question. If he already knew the answer he wouldn't have asked the question!!

Oh, and I didn't expand on anything. How could I, I was the first to talk about what a government could do if they knew they were going to lose and election.

Jesus wept. You're bloody difficult to talk to full stop because you don't understand written English, or pretend not to, it's hard to tell with you.

I very often think the same about you.

[Glyn_Wigley]

It is always incredibly difficult to have a conversation with someone who continually talks about imaginary b*llocks that I haven't written, isn't it?

[Bentley Bullet]

It is always incredibly difficult to have a conversation with someone who continually talks about imaginary b*llocks that I haven't written, isn't it?

Now that you've seen my post (reply 13), how about answering it now, then?

[Glyn_Wigley]

It is always incredibly difficult to have a conversation with someone who continually talks about imaginary b*llocks that I haven't written, isn't it?

Now that you've seen my post (reply 13), how about answering it now, then?

Why should I? It wasn't a reply directed at me so I can't be bothered to.

[Bentley Bullet]

So Hound hounds and Wigley wiggles. Fair enough!

[Glyn_Wigley]

So Hound hounds and Wigley wiggles. Fair enough!

You were replying to roverstillidie91 but you seem to be labouring under the delusion that I should somehow speak for him and have an obligation to do so. What a massive and misguided egotrip you're on.

[SydneyRover]

But the rich friends of the Tories are only a tiny representation of voters, how did the Tory party win by a landslide in 2019?

Really?

Most voters will go with where the beeb, the Sun etc sends them. Why otherwise would turkeys vote for Christmas?

Add on the desperate efforts the establishment will go in its propaganda and lies to avoid policies that do serve the many rather than the few.

The proposed dumping of inheritance tax is disgusting. Most people don't even know how it works and believe they might be affected. If they are affected and they therefore vote tory then they're not fit for life, just greedy spongers.

That last sentence BR, is a classic Labour supporter VSC poster trait.
If you vote Tory you must be thick.
There are several of our posters who put that line on here.
Also, if someone has sufficient assets to have to pay inheritance tax after they die,  is it likely that they are a sponger?

And this is classic from you hound, interpret it to the worst possible meaning.

[Bentley Bullet]

So Hound hounds and Wigley wiggles. Fair enough!

You were replying to roverstillidie91 but you seem to be labouring under the delusion that I should somehow speak for him and have an obligation to do so. What a massive and misguided egotrip you're on.

It's plainly obvious that you have an obligation to get involved in threads that I'm involved in, for the sole reason of supporting whoever is in disagreement with me.

That is not delusion, that is a fact.

[drfchound]

But the rich friends of the Tories are only a tiny representation of voters, how did the Tory party win by a landslide in 2019?

Really?

Most voters will go with where the beeb, the Sun etc sends them. Why otherwise would turkeys vote for Christmas?

Add on the desperate efforts the establishment will go in its propaganda and lies to avoid policies that do serve the many rather than the few.

The proposed dumping of inheritance tax is disgusting. Most people don't even know how it works and believe they might be affected. If they are affected and they therefore vote tory then they're not fit for life, just greedy spongers.

That last sentence BR, is a classic Labour supporter VSC poster trait.
If you vote Tory you must be thick.
There are several of our posters who put that line on here.
Also, if someone has sufficient assets to have to pay inheritance tax after they die,  is it likely that they are a sponger?

And this is classic from you hound, interpret it to the worst possible meaning.

Which bit are you talking about?

[drfchound]

It is always incredibly difficult to have a conversation with someone who continually talks about imaginary b*llocks that I haven't written, isn't it?

You can usually change the direction of a conversation.

[Bentley Bullet]

It is always incredibly difficult to have a conversation with someone who continually talks about imaginary b*llocks that I haven't written, isn't it?

It's the actual b*llocks that you have written that I have a problem with.

[Glyn_Wigley]

So Hound hounds and Wigley wiggles. Fair enough!

You were replying to roverstillidie91 but you seem to be labouring under the delusion that I should somehow speak for him and have an obligation to do so. What a massive and misguided egotrip you're on.

It's plainly obvious that you have an obligation to get involved in threads that I'm involved in, for the sole reason of supporting whoever is in disagreement with me.

That is not delusion, that is a fact.

There goes that egotrip again.

[Bentley Bullet]

If I had aspirations of an ego trip I'd go a bit higher than a fourth-division off-topic football forum.

[SydneyRover]

If I had aspirations of an ego trip I'd go a bit higher than a fourth-division off-topic football forum.

that's true, you once mused about being a moderator ..................

[Bristol Red Rover]

But the rich friends of the Tories are only a tiny representation of voters, how did the Tory party win by a landslide in 2019?

Really?

Most voters will go with where the beeb, the Sun etc sends them. Why otherwise would turkeys vote for Christmas?

Add on the desperate efforts the establishment will go in its propaganda and lies to avoid policies that do serve the many rather than the few.

The proposed dumping of inheritance tax is disgusting. Most people don't even know how it works and believe they might be affected. If they are affected and they therefore vote tory then they're not fit for life, just greedy spongers.

That last sentence BR, is a classic Labour supporter VSC poster trait.
If you vote Tory you must be thick.
There are several of our posters who put that line on here.
Also, if someone has sufficient assets to have to pay inheritance tax after they die,  is it likely that they are a sponger?

You missed the point by a presumption and misreading caused by your agenda. If someone has that much money and are persuaded to vote tory for more money, thus taking funds from poorer people,  they aren't fit for life. If someone votes tory for other reasons, I wouldn't say they were necessarily thick, but likely they make choices based on ingredients of insecurity, fear, selfishness, cooked in an oven of self entitlement and/or paternalistic powerlessness.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

It is interesting that we seem to think taxing death is fair, I don't really.  I'd argue we'd be better off increasing tax on the super rich whilst they're still alive rather than taxing something that already was taxed in the first place.

If I died tomorrow I don't really think it's fair my 4 and 5 year old will pay 40% tax on what they inherit.  It just feels such a negative thing to me.

[SydneyRover]

It's all comparative pud

[Bentley Bullet]

If I had aspirations of an ego trip I'd go a bit higher than a fourth-division off-topic football forum.

that's true, you once mused about being a moderator ..................

If I had aspirations of an ego trip I'd go a bit higher than a fourth-division off-topic football forum.

that's true, you once mused about being a moderator ..................

If I'd had aspirations of an ego trip I'd have probably taken up the offer of being a moderator, Sydnaye. That was in the days before the loony left brigade ruined the forum.

[drfchound]

But the rich friends of the Tories are only a tiny representation of voters, how did the Tory party win by a landslide in 2019?

Really?

Most voters will go with where the beeb, the Sun etc sends them. Why otherwise would turkeys vote for Christmas?

Add on the desperate efforts the establishment will go in its propaganda and lies to avoid policies that do serve the many rather than the few.

The proposed dumping of inheritance tax is disgusting. Most people don't even know how it works and believe they might be affected. If they are affected and they therefore vote tory then they're not fit for life, just greedy spongers.

That last sentence BR, is a classic Labour supporter VSC poster trait.
If you vote Tory you must be thick.
There are several of our posters who put that line on here.
Also, if someone has sufficient assets to have to pay inheritance tax after they die,  is it likely that they are a sponger?

You missed the point by a presumption and misreading caused by your agenda. If someone has that much money and are persuaded to vote tory for more money, thus taking funds from poorer people,  they aren't fit for life. If someone votes tory for other reasons, I wouldn't say they were necessarily thick, but likely they make choices based on ingredients of insecurity, fear, selfishness, cooked in an oven of self entitlement and/or paternalistic powerlessness.

No misreading of anything by myself BR, just commenting on how your post is very similar in type to many put on here by anti government people.
In your response you have actually made several assumptions yourself so I don’t think you can lecture me about doing the same.
In any society there are people who are well off and others who aren’t but to say that the well off are not fit for life is well out of order.
Plenty of people who are in a very comfortable financial position do much to help those not so fortunate so if they vote Tory would you say that they are not fit for life
Someone wrote on here some time ago that a good socialist is someone who is good at spending other people’s money.

[Bentley Bullet]

The UK has the joint 4th highest inheritance tax rates in the OECD.

Of the 38 OECD members, 10 countries have abolished inheritance tax since the 1970s, and 2 have never taxed wealth transfers. Countries that have abolished estate taxes relatively recently include Austria and Sweden.

[SydneyRover]

What concerns you about inheritance tax bb?

[Bentley Bullet]

What concerns you about abolishing inheritance tax, Sydnaye?

[SydneyRover]

nothing at all bring it on and more

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

It's all comparative pud

I have zero idea what you mean. What do you think about the tax?

[SydneyRover]

The UK has the joint 4th highest inheritance tax rates in the OECD.

Of the 38 OECD members, 10 countries have abolished inheritance tax since the 1970s, and 2 have never taxed wealth transfers. Countries that have abolished estate taxes relatively recently include Austria and Sweden.

So you're not opposed to an inheritance tax, just opposed to bst starting a topic

[drfchound]

The UK has the joint 4th highest inheritance tax rates in the OECD.

Of the 38 OECD members, 10 countries have abolished inheritance tax since the 1970s, and 2 have never taxed wealth transfers. Countries that have abolished estate taxes relatively recently include Austria and Sweden.

So you're not opposed to an inheritance tax, just opposed to bst starting a topic

I can’t see anywhere in BBs post that he said anything like that Syd.
Can you be good enough to explain.