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tyke1962

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Re: Brexit - how well is it going?
« Reply #30 on December 31, 2023, 10:12:36 pm by tyke1962 »
Here is an article ''PUBLISHED THU, NOV 28 20193:27 AM ESTUPDATED TUE, DEC 10 20195:07 AM EST'' (not my caps)

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/28/in-boston-britains-most-pro-brexit-town-voters-are-fed-up.html

and another: Sun 28 May 2023 07.00 BST

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/may/28/we-should-be-closer-to-europe-brexit-regrets-simmer-in-leave-voting-boston

All three article should be read to see what the problems were/perceived, if they were resolved and of course who was running the country at the time.


Well it looks like all the major parties are in the dock for the Boston's  issues and have suffered the consequences .

There are 30 council seats available and it contains no Labour councillors , one Lib Dem and only five Tories .

The article doesn't say how many seats the newly formed Boston Independence Group won but presumably it was more than the three major party's put together at a guess .



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SydneyRover

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Re: Brexit - how well is it going?
« Reply #31 on December 31, 2023, 10:27:16 pm by SydneyRover »
Sounds like more toys out of the pram tyke, there was only one party in government for the whole of that period and instead of looking at the problem to see if they could help they saw it as an opportunity to divide and rule. Some are still sensitive receivers.

tyke1962

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Re: Brexit - how well is it going?
« Reply #32 on December 31, 2023, 10:33:41 pm by tyke1962 »
Sounds like more toys out of the pram tyke, there was only one party in government for the whole of that period and instead of looking at the problem to see if they could help they saw it as an opportunity to divide and rule. Some are still sensitive receivers.

Just googled it , there are 18 seats that were  won by the Boston Independence Group at the last election .

So basically they've lost faith with the Tories , have the minimum amount of faith in the Dems and have absolutely no faith in Labour to solve the town's issues .

That's basically what the result of council election is telling you .

Unless you know different of course .


SydneyRover

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Re: Brexit - how well is it going?
« Reply #33 on December 31, 2023, 10:36:40 pm by SydneyRover »
not much point in having a discussion with you tyke, you gloss over or ignore the crux of the matter to vent your spleen

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Re: Brexit - how well is it going?
« Reply #34 on December 31, 2023, 10:56:06 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Boston elected one of the most extreme right wing Tory MPs in the country for 35 years, starting  from 7 years before we even  joined the EEC.

Maybe...here's a thought...maybe the people of Boston are and have been for decades, extremely right wing?

tyke1962

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Re: Brexit - how well is it going?
« Reply #35 on December 31, 2023, 11:17:27 pm by tyke1962 »
Boston elected one of the most extreme right wing Tory MPs in the country for 35 years, starting  from 7 years before we even  joined the EEC.

Maybe...here's a thought...maybe the people of Boston are and have been for decades, extremely right wing?

Possibly but the former MP in question also came from an agricultural background which obviously fits that constituency .

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« Reply #36 on December 31, 2023, 11:23:48 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
That's alright then. You can be semi-fascist as long as you're "one of us"?

The point is Tyke (which I'm sure you do get, because you're not thick) Boston was electing a swivel-eyed anti-EEC headbanger of a far right MP a generation before Poland and Romania even left the Warsaw Pact. Putting their Leave vote down to a reaction against recent immigration is...we'll let's say it's not going to win any Logical Conclusion awards is it?

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« Reply #37 on January 01, 2024, 11:00:12 am by selby »
  Have a great 2024, remainer's keep suffering and have a great suffering moaning year again, you know you like it really, its now part of your personalities.

tyke1962

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Re: Brexit - how well is it going?
« Reply #38 on January 01, 2024, 11:44:09 am by tyke1962 »
That's alright then. You can be semi-fascist as long as you're "one of us"?

The point is Tyke (which I'm sure you do get, because you're not thick) Boston was electing a swivel-eyed anti-EEC headbanger of a far right MP a generation before Poland and Romania even left the Warsaw Pact. Putting their Leave vote down to a reaction against recent immigration is...we'll let's say it's not going to win any Logical Conclusion awards is it?

When the constituency was created in 1997 and became Boston and Skegness it became a marginal seat .

It was never captured by Labour but it was a pretty close thing none the less for the Tories .

That suggests in my opinion that when New Labour adopted market led and neoliberalism policies  the electorate in Boston were capable of voting against the Tories .

What's interesting is that from 2010 onwards the Labour vote fell off a cliff .

The New Labour years  are  when Boston began to experience mass migration from eastern europe which is explained in the link I provided and why they also voted in the numbers  they did to leave the European Union .

Clearly they blamed New Labour and the European Union for those issues .

In my opinion this is classic economy V community , cultural change and the sheer speed of that change territory .






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Re: Brexit - how well is it going?
« Reply #39 on January 01, 2024, 03:46:02 pm by DRFC_AjA »
Well done to every single person who voted for what they wanted and don't be bullied by people who still after all these years are bitter because you voted for something they didn't want. These same people will bang about how politics is for the establishment and a closed shop etc yet just because they didn't get what they wanted in the brexit vote they'll react nastily by making you out to be stupid, uneducated and that their vote and their opinion matters more than yours. It doesn't. Look where the educated establishment got us.

Then they'll resort to things like posting something from what looks like the guardian aka remoaners Bible with shock horror guardian remoaners aren't happy.

For me, wages up, job prospects up as unemployment levels very low, investments doing well, interest rates never going to stay low anyway. Cheers

« Last Edit: January 01, 2024, 03:49:56 pm by DRFC_AjA »

SydneyRover

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« Reply #40 on January 01, 2024, 07:54:09 pm by SydneyRover »
Yep you're right why did people listen to farage and johnson

added:

''Which media outlets do Britons trust in 2023''

''A new YouGov survey of public opinion on 32 news outlets reveals which Britons consider the most trustworthy.

The organisation that the largest number of people trust is the BBC, with 44% of Britons saying they consider it “very trustworthy” or “trustworthy”. A further 24% deem news from the Beeb to be ‘neither trustworthy nor untrustworthy’, while 21% consider BBC news to be untrustworthy.

However, the BBC is not the outlet with the highest level of ‘net trust’ – that is to say, the number of people who trust a media organisation minus the number of people who distrust it.

That honour goes to the FT, with a net score of +30: 40% of Britons trust news from the FT, compared to 10% who distrust it.

The top broadcasters all place highly in the rankings, with ITV and Channel 4 receiving similar net trust scores of +28 and +27 respectively, with the BBC on +23 and Sky +13.

The Guardian is the highest ranking non-business newspaper in terms of the highest trust figure, at 33%, while the Independent is the national with the highest net trust score (+16, slightly ahead of the Guardian’s +15).

There is generally a clear distinction between trust in the tabloids and the broadsheets. Aside from the Independent and Guardian, The Times scores +14, The i +6, and The Telegraph on ±0 – tabloids tend to have a very negative net score''

https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/45744-which-media-outlets-do-britons-trust-2023

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Re: Brexit - how well is it going?
« Reply #41 on January 02, 2024, 03:19:04 am by selby »
  Talk Radio is the most influential fast growing media outlet in the UK Syd, and for world news content the BBC is miles behind  such as Al Jazeera and France 24.
  Its old hat, set in its ways and who reads a news paper now? fetching one is a waste of shoe leather with the internet, you should know that your always posting second hand Guardian  editorials on here nobody takes any notice of.

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« Reply #42 on January 02, 2024, 04:21:13 am by SydneyRover »
  Talk Radio is the most influential fast growing media outlet in the UK Syd, and for world news content the BBC is miles behind  such as Al Jazeera and France 24.
  Its old hat, set in its ways and who reads a news paper now? fetching one is a waste of shoe leather with the internet, you should know that your always posting second hand Guardian  editorials on here nobody takes any notice of.

With absolutely no respect selby, if it results in the dribble you often come out with I will continue to get my news from the various outlets I choose.

SydneyRover

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Re: Brexit - how well is it going?
« Reply #43 on January 02, 2024, 06:25:50 am by SydneyRover »
UK Radio listening figures

1
Heart FM
Heart FM
96%
58%
2
Heart 80s
Heart 80s
84%
53%
3
Capital FM
Capital FM
97%
51%
4
Heart Radio
Heart Radio
91%
49%
5
Heart Extra
Heart Extra
77%
49%
6
Absolute 80s
Absolute 80s
71%
48%
7
Smooth Radio
Smooth Radio
83%
48%
8
BBC Radio 2
BBC Radio 2
94%
48%
9
Magic FM
Magic FM
81%
48%
10
Absolute Radio
Absolute Radio
74%
44%
11
BBC Radio 1
BBC Radio 1
96%
43%
12
Classic FM
Classic FM
95%
43%
13
BBC Radio 5 live
BBC Radio 5 live
84%
41%
14
Kiss FM
Kiss FM
90%
41%
15
Magic Radio
Magic Radio
77%
40%
16
Absolute Classic Rock
Absolute Classic Rock
74%
40%
17
Virgin
Virgin
85%
39%
18
Absolute Radio 70s
Absolute Radio 70s
62%
39%
19
102.2 Smooth FM
102.2 Smooth FM
78%
38%
20
Absolute Radio 90s
Absolute Radio 90s
68%
36%
21
Smooth Extra
Smooth Extra
70%
36%
22
Virgin Radio
Virgin Radio
84%
34%
23
BBC Radio 4
BBC Radio 4
92%
31%
24
Gold (Radio station)
Gold (Radio station)
59%
30%
25
BBC Radio World Service
BBC Radio World Service
76%
30%
26
The Hits
The Hits
58%
29%
27
BBC Radio 5 Live Sports Extra
BBC Radio 5 Live Sports Extra
74%
29%
28
BBC Radio 1Xtra
BBC Radio 1Xtra
74%
27%
29
Mellow Magic
Mellow Magic
47%
27%
30
Magic Chilled
Magic Chilled
52%
26%
31
Talk Radio
Talk Radio
71%
26%


https://yougov.co.uk/ratings/entertainment/popularity/radio-stations/all

you're welcome

And here is another set of figures listed with news content the figure highlighted is the change since the previous figures.
11   Talkradio   637k   727k   690k   8.3%   −5.1%   7.5

https://pressgazette.co.uk/media-audience-and-business-data/media_metrics/rajars-q3-2023-bbc-5-live-world-service/

oops had to edit that last entry from 1st to eleventh.

I think an awful lot depends on how one processes the information available.
« Last Edit: January 02, 2024, 07:53:07 pm by SydneyRover »

selby

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Re: Brexit - how well is it going?
« Reply #44 on January 02, 2024, 11:30:17 am by selby »
  That is a big bite that Syd, Happy new year buddy, keep the neighbours entertained.

drfchound

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« Reply #45 on January 02, 2024, 12:27:24 pm by drfchound »
Interesting that the order of those radio stations changes quite a lot when you play about with the filters.

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« Reply #46 on January 02, 2024, 07:50:22 pm by SydneyRover »
  That is a big bite that Syd, Happy new year buddy, keep the neighbours entertained.

Oh selby you silly boy, the place is littered with those that can't admit they're wrong, you are only fooling yourself.

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« Reply #47 on January 02, 2024, 10:08:13 pm by selby »
  The CEBR report out today Syd says that Britain is closing in on taking over Germany and has left France behind economically buddy and the fourth standing economy in the G7 overtaking Germany, France and Japan this coming year, Keep up with things son.
« Last Edit: January 02, 2024, 10:12:56 pm by selby »

SydneyRover

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« Reply #48 on January 02, 2024, 10:21:44 pm by SydneyRover »
You need to start drinking selby then you'd have an excuse

selby

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« Reply #49 on January 02, 2024, 10:41:07 pm by selby »
  Syd the drivers in the EU are having a bad time of it, bankers in Germany consider French manufacturing to be in a big downward spiral anything below the 50 mark is considered a recession, they are currently bobbing along at 42.1, and Germany in an even worse position.
  I am sure you will come up with a load of guff, but it will be only wishful thinking on your behalf buddy, don't risk any of your Ausie pounds on it, but the best of luck if you do.
  We are far from being out of the sticky stuff ourselves but are in better fettle than those two at the moment.

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« Reply #50 on January 02, 2024, 10:52:56 pm by Glyn_Wigley »
I've no idea what the '50' you're talking about is, but it's two successive quarters of a fall in GDP that's considered a recession.

SydneyRover

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« Reply #51 on January 02, 2024, 11:11:21 pm by SydneyRover »
Nobody is running the country down, just fending off your nonsense selby haven't you worked that out yet??????????????????

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« Reply #52 on January 03, 2024, 11:22:23 am by selby »
 Didn't know the CEBR spouted nonsense Syd, keep worrying your life away all day every day, The neighbours got a move yet?

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« Reply #53 on January 03, 2024, 04:35:21 pm by Not Now Kato »
Didn't know the CEBR spouted nonsense Syd, keep worrying your life away all day every day, The neighbours got a move yet?

Talking about neighbours and Brexit selby, is this you in the vid?
 
https://twitter.com/henrymance/status/1742484359502794783?s=46
 

selby

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« Reply #54 on January 03, 2024, 04:56:42 pm by selby »
  No Kato, that guy is way above my intelligence, mind you I sit near a few like that at home games.

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« Reply #55 on January 03, 2024, 09:49:04 pm by Sprotyrover »
  No Kato, that guy is way above my intelligence, mind you I sit near a few like that at home games.
You must sit near NNK then?

SydneyRover

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« Reply #56 on January 03, 2024, 10:00:15 pm by SydneyRover »
Didn't know the CEBR spouted nonsense Syd, keep worrying your life away all day every day, The neighbours got a move yet?

chrrr, chrrr, Control to selby, control to selby, please explain comment #14 over


selby

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« Reply #58 on January 04, 2024, 11:23:11 am by selby »
  Syd, nobody takes any notice of your ramblings apart for the comedy content, you can't control your dribbling never mind call  others in.
  Are you sat in a corner in a home? imagining your winning a war.

SydneyRover

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« Reply #59 on January 04, 2024, 11:54:17 am by SydneyRover »
Gee selby I thought you liked a bit of fishin' and banter with the lads

 

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