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Quote from: Padge_DRFC on January 07, 2024, 03:09:43 pmIt amazes me the amount of professional footballers who can't pass a ball back to the thrower from a throwing successfully We must be one of the worst, if not the worst teams in the league for either giving the ball away, or having no idea of finding space to receive a throw. Absolutely clueless & needs sorting on the training ground.
It amazes me the amount of professional footballers who can't pass a ball back to the thrower from a throwing successfully
We have been absolutely woefull since Coppinger hung up his boots, to be honest I have never since then seen a side concede possession as bad as us from throw ins. It improved slightly recently when Westbrook played. Think it's more a responsibility thing.
Quote from: Lesonthewest on January 07, 2024, 10:10:04 pmWe have been absolutely woefull since Coppinger hung up his boots, to be honest I have never since then seen a side concede possession as bad as us from throw ins. It improved slightly recently when Westbrook played. Think it's more a responsibility thing.That probably sums up this whole situation Les. A player that had been a bit of an X Factor, talisman for the best part of 20 years retires and we didn’t even have a plan in place to either nurture his replacement prior to retiring or hunt down a player of the same ilk to replace him and fill the (potential) black hole he would leave. If that’s not the biggest indication of all that the club is pretty clueless I don’t know what is. We had years to prepare! A decent wage off the books when he left. Zero excuse for that shit show. More interested in making a documentary about him (what ever happened to that!!) than finding someone to fill the footballing void.
Quote from: GazLaz on January 07, 2024, 10:29:20 pmQuote from: Lesonthewest on January 07, 2024, 10:10:04 pmWe have been absolutely woefull since Coppinger hung up his boots, to be honest I have never since then seen a side concede possession as bad as us from throw ins. It improved slightly recently when Westbrook played. Think it's more a responsibility thing.That probably sums up this whole situation Les. A player that had been a bit of an X Factor, talisman for the best part of 20 years retires and we didn’t even have a plan in place to either nurture his replacement prior to retiring or hunt down a player of the same ilk to replace him and fill the (potential) black hole he would leave. If that’s not the biggest indication of all that the club is pretty clueless I don’t know what is. We had years to prepare! A decent wage off the books when he left. Zero excuse for that shit show. More interested in making a documentary about him (what ever happened to that!!) than finding someone to fill the footballing void. Please tell us how you go about 'planning' to replace a player who developed over time under a number of different managers? The Coppinger who signed wasn't anywhere near the player, the man, he became and nobody could ever say he would fulfil what he became, particularly in those early seasons when at times he was like a little boy lost on the wing, barely contributing, ellegedly on the verge of being loaned out to Rotherham. Years to prepare? How many scouts, managers, coaches are currently trying to identify and recruit teenagers who could become club legends?
Quote from: DonnyBazR0ver on January 08, 2024, 11:48:06 amQuote from: GazLaz on January 07, 2024, 10:29:20 pmQuote from: Lesonthewest on January 07, 2024, 10:10:04 pmWe have been absolutely woefull since Coppinger hung up his boots, to be honest I have never since then seen a side concede possession as bad as us from throw ins. It improved slightly recently when Westbrook played. Think it's more a responsibility thing.That probably sums up this whole situation Les. A player that had been a bit of an X Factor, talisman for the best part of 20 years retires and we didn’t even have a plan in place to either nurture his replacement prior to retiring or hunt down a player of the same ilk to replace him and fill the (potential) black hole he would leave. If that’s not the biggest indication of all that the club is pretty clueless I don’t know what is. We had years to prepare! A decent wage off the books when he left. Zero excuse for that shit show. More interested in making a documentary about him (what ever happened to that!!) than finding someone to fill the footballing void. Please tell us how you go about 'planning' to replace a player who developed over time under a number of different managers? The Coppinger who signed wasn't anywhere near the player, the man, he became and nobody could ever say he would fulfil what he became, particularly in those early seasons when at times he was like a little boy lost on the wing, barely contributing, ellegedly on the verge of being loaned out to Rotherham. Years to prepare? How many scouts, managers, coaches are currently trying to identify and recruit teenagers who could become club legends? I don't think it's about scouting someone who can become a club legend. That's not really an output you look for. It's about scouting someone who can play a similar role on the pitch - being a technically good footballer who can create. It's not as if Coppinger is the only player ever who can do so.He played for us all through his 30s, we must have known that he would retire at some point, yet the closest we ever came to replacing him was Taylor Richards, who was on loan and never likely to sign permanently unless we got in the Championship.
Quote from: Lesonthewest on January 07, 2024, 10:10:04 pmWe have been absolutely woefull since Coppinger hung up his boots, to be honest I have never since then seen a side concede possession as bad as us from throw ins. It improved slightly recently when Westbrook played. Think it's more a responsibility thing.You could also say we’ve been woeful since cops took up his new role.
Quote from: pib on January 08, 2024, 12:02:30 pmQuote from: DonnyBazR0ver on January 08, 2024, 11:48:06 amQuote from: GazLaz on January 07, 2024, 10:29:20 pmQuote from: Lesonthewest on January 07, 2024, 10:10:04 pmWe have been absolutely woefull since Coppinger hung up his boots, to be honest I have never since then seen a side concede possession as bad as us from throw ins. It improved slightly recently when Westbrook played. Think it's more a responsibility thing.That probably sums up this whole situation Les. A player that had been a bit of an X Factor, talisman for the best part of 20 years retires and we didn’t even have a plan in place to either nurture his replacement prior to retiring or hunt down a player of the same ilk to replace him and fill the (potential) black hole he would leave. If that’s not the biggest indication of all that the club is pretty clueless I don’t know what is. We had years to prepare! A decent wage off the books when he left. Zero excuse for that shit show. More interested in making a documentary about him (what ever happened to that!!) than finding someone to fill the footballing void. Please tell us how you go about 'planning' to replace a player who developed over time under a number of different managers? The Coppinger who signed wasn't anywhere near the player, the man, he became and nobody could ever say he would fulfil what he became, particularly in those early seasons when at times he was like a little boy lost on the wing, barely contributing, ellegedly on the verge of being loaned out to Rotherham. Years to prepare? How many scouts, managers, coaches are currently trying to identify and recruit teenagers who could become club legends? I don't think it's about scouting someone who can become a club legend. That's not really an output you look for. It's about scouting someone who can play a similar role on the pitch - being a technically good footballer who can create. It's not as if Coppinger is the only player ever who can do so.He played for us all through his 30s, we must have known that he would retire at some point, yet the closest we ever came to replacing him was Taylor Richards, who was on loan and never likely to sign permanently unless we got in the Championship.Precisely. Nobody recruits 'potential legends' so it comes down to very basic footballing qualities, which everyone involved in recruiting young talent will be looking for that potential. Maybe GazLaz should be posing that conundrum to the man himself. Who better to ask?