Billy Waters

[Bessie Red]

Signed on loan from Wrexham

[GazLaz]

We nearly signed him in the summer, or maybe the summer before. They all blend into haze in recent times.

[StocksArmy]

Stats are p!ss poor.

[Padge_DRFC]

Anyone know much about him? Not Wikipedia stats.

[Spilsby Red]

Welcome lad. Do your best for us. That’s all I ask. Let’s await some not so good comments xx

[Nudga]

Is he any good? I don't know anything about him.

[roversdude]

We nearly signed him in the summer, or maybe the summer before. They all blend into haze in recent times.

Any view on this Gaz

[Northants Nomad]

Stats are p!ss poor.

Written off on the second reply - is that a record? It’s like the Donny Welcome - if you’re not Messi, you must be crap.

[Alan Southstand]

I’m lost for words!

[Spilsby Red]

Scored 9 goals last season in league 2 at Barrow. If I read it right of Wrexhams website. Can score. Could be the competition we need up front.

[Rovers91]

I actually think it might end up a decent signing and offer something bit different to what we have.

[ncRover]

Although he’s seemingly not top quality he is actually the profile we needed.

Wide forward who can play left in a 4-3-3 cutting in on his right foot.

He’s got a better goal record than Molyneux:

9 goals in 34 league games for Barrow last year.

18 goals in 45 for Halifax before that in the National League.

Loan is better than permanent in this case, as we can get a better one in the summer and aren’t tied to him like we were Lavery.

Need better planning in the summer so we aren’t doing this again though.

It seems Wrexham just bought him for the sake of it but he doesn’t fit their direct style, being a halfling.

That’s my take.

[Fal]

I think for me it just feels like a new low having to loan a player from a team in the same league and then having just come from the national league. I think it doesn’t scream exciting.

[Spilsby Red]

Quite agree with that summary ncRover.

Let’s give this lad a chance along with the others we have got in January.
Look how Bailey has turned out, a few were doubting that signing.

[ncRover]

I think for me it just feels like a new low having to loan a player from a team in the same league and then having just come from the national league. I think it doesn’t scream exciting.

He outscored Molyneux threefold last season playing in a similar position?

Also scored 9 more goals in that Barrow team than Jake Young did.

[TonySoprano]

Bogle, agard, lavery now waters to join the club of pointlessly signing shit strikers in January.

[Lifelong supporter]

Grant goes on about energy and this lad has it in abundance.
Described by one of his previous managers as having 'incredible workrate'.
Makes chances for others and can also stick the ball in the net himself.
What's not to like?

[Spilsby Red]

TS yawn yawn yawn

[roversdude]

Might not actually be shit and anyway he’s a loan not a perm

[Fal]

I think for me it just feels like a new low having to loan a player from a team in the same league and then having just come from the national league. I think it doesn’t scream exciting.

He outscored Molyneux threefold last season playing in a similar position?

Also scored 9 more goals in that Barrow team than Jake Young did.

As always will give him a chance

[StocksArmy]

Stats are p!ss poor.

Written off on the second reply - is that a record? It’s like the Donny Welcome - if you’re not Messi, you must be crap.

Did I though? Or did I point out the fact that his stats ARE poor?

[ncRover]

Stats are p!ss poor.

Written off on the second reply - is that a record? It’s like the Donny Welcome - if you’re not Messi, you must be crap.

Did I though? Or did I point out the fact that his stats ARE poor?

Have you got access to GazLaz’ database or are you just looking at the 2023/24 section of Billy’s Wikipedia entry?

[steve@dcfd]

Grant said he wanted three on the pitch and three to come on he’s got that now
Molyneux Ironside Faal/ Carty
Waters.   Faal/Carty.    Hurst

[Petche]

Bogle, agard, lavery now waters to join the club of pointlessly signing shit strikers in January.

I really don't know why you bother

[Metalmicky]

I’m lost for words!

That's a first anyway.....

[Alan Southstand]

Isn’t Hurst injured?

[Nudga]

From an account on twitter Don’t let Billy Waters stint at Wrexham blind you how decent of a player he is.

Is he the answer to all the problems no? But I can fully see why the board opted to bring him in, signing him on a permanent when he’s played little game time would of been disastrous if he turned out to be really poor.

But take this as you will, I watched him at Halifax about 20/30 times, always left everything on the pitch, when he had a chance you expected the ball to hit the net.

He left to reunite with Pete Wild, scored 9 goals which is respectable and then the move to Wrexham killed him, he was never getting game time over Mullin or Palmer.

I genuinely would say if I thought it was a shit signing, but I don’t at all - I’d of took him back in a heartbeat at Halifax, albeit a league below, give him chances he won’t disappoint.

[Draytonian III]

Bogle, agard, lavery now waters to join the club of pointlessly signing shit strikers in January.

I really don't know why you bother

He enjoys stirring things up, he gets more out than watching the team, that’s if he actually goes

[Metalmicky]

Bogle, agard, lavery now waters to join the club of pointlessly signing shit strikers in January.

Took your time TS - normally you're quicker than that - did you WUM claxon not go off...?

[GazLaz]

Which “stats”? Certainly not his goals return at barrow. 0.37 goals per 90mins, which aligned with his xG exactly. That means his scoring rate was good and no indication it was a fluke or over performance.


His out of possession stuff is ok for his possession, he’ll at least be trying to win it back in the right areas as well.

His passing numbers are great, decent technician.

Doesn’t create enough for the position he plays weirdly given the fact he’s good on the ball.

“We want a striker that can play wide” that’s not him. If we’ve signed him under that remit (surely we can’t be that clueless) it’s not him. He needs to play as a No10 (attacking midfield freeish role). Don’t play him wide would be my advice.
Likely to play the deeper role/ point of the diamond that Ironside has dropped into recently I’d say.