Mick Lynch says voters must ‘grow up’ and see Starmer is only alternative

[SydneyRover]

.......... ''Mick Lynch has said voters have to “grow up a bit” and recognise Keir Starmer as the only realistic alternative to the current government, the removal of which he described as “my number one priority”.

Last week, Labour’s shadow Scottish secretary, Ian Murray, challenged prime minister Rishi Sunak to put the country “out of this Tory misery” and call a general election now.

Speaking at the War on Want event in central London, Lynch told the PA news agency: “I think Labour have got a good chance of getting elected unless they muck it up, really'' ...........

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/feb/24/mick-lynch-says-voters-must-grow-up-and-see-starmer-is-only-alternative

ya-know, I was just thinking that

[roverstillidie91]

As much as I don't want a Tory government in again I see what he is saying.

However I believe if they are to govern without a majority it will be a massive fail for Keir Starmer who will do anything to get in power.

There are many people even to do with the tactical voting. Julia Patterson? Is now boycotting in and avoiding Labour altogether.

And this will increase in the run up to the election.

[ravenrover]

The same Mick Lynch who is supporting Corbyn as an Independant?

[Bentley Bullet]

..... And Brexiter!

[SydneyRover]

He's seen the light bb

[Colin C No.3]

The same Mick Lynch who is supporting Corbyn as an Independant?

Just to put that into context Mick Lynch said at a War on Want Conference said (referring to his union) “We will be supporting all sorts of candidates in this election. We will be supporting Labour candidates & Social candidates”.

“We will be supporting Jeremy Corbyn in this election”.

Corbyn has been thrown out of the Labour Party & so is standing as an Independent which is consistent with Mick Lynch stating “We will be supporting all sorts of candidates in this election”.

What’s the gripe?

[BillyStubbsTears]

The irony of Mick Lynch opining on elections.

That's the Mick Lynch who won his position by gaining 46% of the 19% of the RMT members who bothered to vote in the Gen Sec election. 7600 votes out of 86,000 members.

[SydneyRover]

The thing is quite a few were saying Mick Lynch instead of Starmer although they never asked him and here ML is pointing the way for a better country.

[Colin C No.3]

The irony of Mick Lynch opining on elections.

That's the Mick Lynch who won his position by gaining 46% of the 19% of the RMT members who bothered to vote in the Gen Sec election. 7600 votes out of 86,000 members.

What’s your point?

That Mick Lynch shouldn't be saying how his union will be voting in the forthcoming election (where every Tom, Dick & Harry is, & has a right to, giving an opinion), or that he shouldn’t be giving an opinion because less than 10% of the members of the RMT bothered to vote in their leadership election of which he gained nearly half of the votes?

[drfchound]

It is unlikely that there will be a big turnout in the GE either but when Labour win and less than half of the population have voted for them I suspect it will be greeted as a massive win.

[wilts rover]

It is unlikely that there will be a big turnout in the GE either but when Labour win and less than half of the population have voted for them I suspect it will be greeted as a massive win.

Similar to Johnson's massive victory in 2019 - won with 35% of the electorate - then?

[drfchound]

It is unlikely that there will be a big turnout in the GE either but when Labour win and less than half of the population have voted for them I suspect it will be greeted as a massive win.

Similar to Johnson's massive victory in 2019 - won with 35% of the electorate - then?

Absolutely the same wilts.
Why is MLs position being questioned then.

[BillyStubbsTears]

The irony of Mick Lynch opining on elections.

That's the Mick Lynch who won his position by gaining 46% of the 19% of the RMT members who bothered to vote in the Gen Sec election. 7600 votes out of 86,000 members.

What’s your point?

That Mick Lynch shouldn't be saying how his union will be voting in the forthcoming election (where every Tom, Dick & Harry is, & has a right to, giving an opinion), or that he shouldn’t be giving an opinion because less than 10% of the members of the RMT bothered to vote in their leadership election of which he gained nearly half of the votes?

It is unlikely that there will be a big turnout in the GE either but when Labour win and less than half of the population have voted for them I suspect it will be greeted as a massive win.

Similar to Johnson's massive victory in 2019 - won with 35% of the electorate - then?

Wilts.

The turnout in the typical General Election is 70-75%.

The turnout in the typical union Gen Sec election is below 20%.

I'm sure I don't need to join the dots for you.

[Colin C No.3]

The irony of Mick Lynch opining on elections.

That's the Mick Lynch who won his position by gaining 46% of the 19% of the RMT members who bothered to vote in the Gen Sec election. 7600 votes out of 86,000 members.

What’s your point?

That Mick Lynch shouldn't be saying how his union will be voting in the forthcoming election (where every Tom, Dick & Harry is, & has a right to, giving an opinion), or that he shouldn’t be giving an opinion because less than 10% of the members of the RMT bothered to vote in their leadership election of which he gained nearly half of the votes?

It is unlikely that there will be a big turnout in the GE either but when Labour win and less than half of the population have voted for them I suspect it will be greeted as a massive win.

Similar to Johnson's massive victory in 2019 - won with 35% of the electorate - then?

Wilts.

The turnout in the typical General Election is 70-75%.

The turnout in the typical union Gen Sec election is below 20%.

I'm sure I don't need to join the dots for you.

So when 19% turn out to elect their leader of the RMT it shouldn’t come as a surprise then & certainly not worth using as part of any argument that there’s an ‘irony’ when Mick Lynch gives an opinion on the forthcoming election.

And when you then go on to quote in figures what proportion in 1000’s 19% represents, I see another John Nance Garner looming in the distance.

Just for your records, 54% of the RMT members turned out to vote on whether or not to go on strike of which 95% voted to come out.

100% of Mick Lynch’s head is bald, which is also a pretty useless figure to quote.

[ravenrover]

The same Mick Lynch who is supporting Corbyn as an Independant?

Just to put that into context Mick Lynch said at a War on Want Conference said (referring to his union) “We will be supporting all sorts of candidates in this election. We will be supporting Labour candidates & Social candidates”.

“We will be supporting Jeremy Corbyn in this election”.

Corbyn has been thrown out of the Labour Party & so is standing as an Independent which is consistent with Mick Lynch stating “We will be supporting all sorts of candidates in this election”.

What’s the gripe?

Just that in one breath he says he sees the need for a Labour government inder Starmer yet is supporting an opposition candidate in Corbyn against presumably a Labour candidate
I don't see the comment re supporting a variety of candidates in that article

[danumdon]

Its just unbelievable how some on here will grasp at anything to make a convoluted point.

Did you also "eat your young", Jesus!

[SydneyRover]

When I wrote to Mick and gave him a link to the comments about him ...............

[scawsby steve]

What did you expect Mick Lynch to do, advise his members to vote Tory?

The fun and games will start when Lynch negotiates with Starmer over pay and conditions.

If you think Mick Lynch and the RMT won't strike against a Labour Government, you're deluded. 

[SydneyRover]

What did you expect Mick Lynch to do, advise his members to vote Tory?

The fun and games will start when Lynch negotiates with Starmer over pay and conditions.

If you think Mick Lynch and the RMT won't strike against a Labour Government, you're deluded.

Who is this addressed to Steve, who has said that?

[SydneyRover]

Steve, I think if you put Mick Lynch in the search box, I think what I've said will closer to the thread title than what you have written.

[scawsby steve]

.......... ''Mick Lynch has said voters have to “grow up a bit” and recognise Keir Starmer as the only realistic alternative to the current government, the removal of which he described as “my number one priority”.

Last week, Labour’s shadow Scottish secretary, Ian Murray, challenged prime minister Rishi Sunak to put the country “out of this Tory misery” and call a general election now.

Speaking at the War on Want event in central London, Lynch told the PA news agency: “I think Labour have got a good chance of getting elected unless they muck it up, really'' ...........

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/feb/24/mick-lynch-says-voters-must-grow-up-and-see-starmer-is-only-alternative

ya-know, I was just thinking that

Look at the first paragraph. Now, once again, what did you expect Mick Lynch to do, advise his members to vote Tory?

[SydneyRover]

Of course not Steve, Mick Lynch is a realist.

''If you think Mick Lynch and the RMT won't strike against a Labour Government, you're deluded''

This is nonsense and in no way what I think. I always said that politics should be off the front page and the government should negotiate rather than oppose.

If you think that a corbyn pm would have been handing out cheques l/r/centre to working people you're wrong there too, think Truss.

[Colin C No.3]

Syd, I really don’t think this is the place to be discussing Steve’s hernia.

[scawsby steve]

Syd, I really don’t think this is the place to be discussing Steve’s hernia.

I've been trying to tell him the Labour Party's ruptured for ages.

[SydneyRover]

Syd, I really don’t think this is the place to be discussing Steve’s hernia.

I've been trying to tell him the Labour Party's ruptured for ages.

ML doesn't seem to think so, he's telling you to get off your backside and vote labour, but maybe don't stand up to quick.

[DonnyOsmond]

The irony of Mick Lynch opining on elections.

That's the Mick Lynch who won his position by gaining 46% of the 19% of the RMT members who bothered to vote in the Gen Sec election. 7600 votes out of 86,000 members.

What’s your point?

That Mick Lynch shouldn't be saying how his union will be voting in the forthcoming election (where every Tom, Dick & Harry is, & has a right to, giving an opinion), or that he shouldn’t be giving an opinion because less than 10% of the members of the RMT bothered to vote in their leadership election of which he gained nearly half of the votes?

It is unlikely that there will be a big turnout in the GE either but when Labour win and less than half of the population have voted for them I suspect it will be greeted as a massive win.

Similar to Johnson's massive victory in 2019 - won with 35% of the electorate - then?

Wilts.

The turnout in the typical General Election is 70-75%.

The turnout in the typical union Gen Sec election is below 20%.

I'm sure I don't need to join the dots for you.

Not even Sydney will attempt to backup whatever you're on about.

[SydneyRover]

Why not ask billy, then ask if I agree.

[Pancho Regan]

The irony of Mick Lynch opining on elections.

That's the Mick Lynch who won his position by gaining 46% of the 19% of the RMT members who bothered to vote in the Gen Sec election. 7600 votes out of 86,000 members.

Mick Lynch doesn't set the electoral rules of his Union, so there is no point to your point.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

It will be interesting to see how all the problems people have criticised the current government for are solved as easily as some think by a new government.

[SydneyRover]

It will be interesting to see how all the problems people have criticised the current government for are solved as easily as some think by a new government.

Has anyone you know of said it will be easy pud? many appear to want the worst for the country.