that free kick they scored from was it direct or indirect ?

[Colemans Left Hook]

their player who ran over it didn't touch it   

https://www.theifab.com/laws/latest/fouls-and-misconduct/#direct-free-kick

12.2 Indirect free kick

An indirect free kick is awarded if a player:

plays in a dangerous manner

impedes the progress of an opponent without any contact being made

is guilty of dissent, using offensive, insulting or abusive language and/or action(s) or other verbal offences

prevents the goalkeeper from releasing the ball from the hands or kicks or attempts to kick the ball when the goalkeeper is in the process of releasing it

initiates a deliberate trick for the ball to be passed (including from a free kick or goal kick) to the goalkeeper with the head, chest, knee etc. to circumvent the Law, whether or not the goalkeeper touches the ball with the hands; the goalkeeper is penalised if responsible for initiating the deliberate trick

commits any other offence, not mentioned in the Laws, for which play is stopped to caution or send off a player
  that word player again
An indirect free kick is awarded if a goalkeeper, inside their penalty area, commits any of the following offences:

controls the ball with the hand/arm for more than six seconds before releasing it

touches the ball with the hand/arm after releasing it and before it has touched another player

touches the ball with the hand/arm, unless the goalkeeper has clearly kicked or attempted to kick the ball to release it into play, after:

it has been deliberately kicked to the goalkeeper by a team-mate

receiving it directly from a throw-in taken by a team-mate

A goalkeeper is considered to be in control of the ball with the hand(s) when:

the ball is between the hands or between the hand and any surface (e.g. ground, own body) or by touching it with any part of the hands or arms, except if the ball rebounds from the goalkeeper or the goalkeeper has made a save

holding the ball in the outstretched open hand

bouncing it on the ground or throwing it in the air

A goalkeeper cannot be challenged by an opponent when in control of the ball with the hand(s).

can I argue once the goalkeeper comes out of his area he BECOMES classed as a player ?

in that case an indirect free kick should have been given   if the answer is YES

then it proves it wasn't a goal scoring opportunity ??


in trying to be clever terms can a goalkeeper become a HYBRID   ? (goalkeeper and player )

[IDM]

It was handball outside the box, it’s a direct free kick.

[Colemans Left Hook]

It was handball outside the box, it’s a direct free kick.

but the handball and the sending off are " mutually inclusive" in my world not " mutually exclusive" 

[Surrey Rover]

https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/law-12---fouls-and-misconduct

[Colemans Left Hook]

https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/law-12---fouls-and-misconduct

that link appears to be the same as the one i put up

"Surrey" can we have views on whether a goalkeeper is redefined as a player when he is out of the area - and their could be some hidden away clause in the rules that could cast light on the definition of a "player" ?

[DonnyBazR0ver]

Jones was the last player to touch the ball before crossing the line though. Does that make it 'indirect' anyway?

[Mike_F]

It's a direct free kick offence. And yes as soon as any player touches it, even if was indirect that would still make it a fair goal.

(I'm an FA qualified ref)

[GazLaz]

Jones was the last player to touch the ball before crossing the line though. Does that make it 'indirect' anyway?

Exactly. It didn’t go straight in anyway.

[IDM]

There is no redefinition of a goalie as a player outside the box.  The same rules apply regardless..  the special goalie rules apply n the box only.

https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/law-12---fouls-and-misconduct

that link appears to be the same as the one i put up

"Surrey" can we have views on whether a goalkeeper is redefined as a player when he is out of the area - and their could be some hidden away clause in the rules that could cast light on the definition of a "player" ?

[donnievic]

Every free kick for handball is direct

You only have to also see the referee that he isn’t indicating it’s in direct

[BillyStubbsTears]

their player who ran over it didn't touch it   

https://www.theifab.com/laws/latest/fouls-and-misconduct/#direct-free-kick

12.2 Indirect free kick

An indirect free kick is awarded if a player:

plays in a dangerous manner

impedes the progress of an opponent without any contact being made

is guilty of dissent, using offensive, insulting or abusive language and/or action(s) or other verbal offences

prevents the goalkeeper from releasing the ball from the hands or kicks or attempts to kick the ball when the goalkeeper is in the process of releasing it

initiates a deliberate trick for the ball to be passed (including from a free kick or goal kick) to the goalkeeper with the head, chest, knee etc. to circumvent the Law, whether or not the goalkeeper touches the ball with the hands; the goalkeeper is penalised if responsible for initiating the deliberate trick

commits any other offence, not mentioned in the Laws, for which play is stopped to caution or send off a player
  that word player again
An indirect free kick is awarded if a goalkeeper, inside their penalty area, commits any of the following offences:

controls the ball with the hand/arm for more than six seconds before releasing it

touches the ball with the hand/arm after releasing it and before it has touched another player

touches the ball with the hand/arm, unless the goalkeeper has clearly kicked or attempted to kick the ball to release it into play, after:

it has been deliberately kicked to the goalkeeper by a team-mate

receiving it directly from a throw-in taken by a team-mate

A goalkeeper is considered to be in control of the ball with the hand(s) when:

the ball is between the hands or between the hand and any surface (e.g. ground, own body) or by touching it with any part of the hands or arms, except if the ball rebounds from the goalkeeper or the goalkeeper has made a save

holding the ball in the outstretched open hand

bouncing it on the ground or throwing it in the air

A goalkeeper cannot be challenged by an opponent when in control of the ball with the hand(s).

can I argue once the goalkeeper comes out of his area he BECOMES classed as a player ?

in that case an indirect free kick should have been given   if the answer is YES

then it proves it wasn't a goal scoring opportunity ??


in trying to be clever terms can a goalkeeper become a HYBRID   ? (goalkeeper and player )

Never in the field of human communication has some much been read by so many and meant so little.

"Player" means any member of a team.

"Goalkeeper" is a specific "player".