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Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on May 23, 2024, 09:36:14 amQuote from: roverstillidie91 on May 23, 2024, 07:51:37 amNeed the Tories out but ideally a Labour majority as low as possible.So the Tories can come back in 2029? Why would they?This is to do with the forthcoming election and not the one in 2029.I think Tories have done a lot of damage over the past 14 years and in my opinion I think they will struggle to get in again.But I also believe Labour will become even more unpopular when as expected they will get in.But the Greens, Independents are making up ground slowly.
Quote from: roverstillidie91 on May 23, 2024, 07:51:37 amNeed the Tories out but ideally a Labour majority as low as possible.So the Tories can come back in 2029?
Need the Tories out but ideally a Labour majority as low as possible.
Quote from: roverstillidie91 on May 23, 2024, 10:01:31 amQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on May 23, 2024, 09:36:14 amQuote from: roverstillidie91 on May 23, 2024, 07:51:37 amNeed the Tories out but ideally a Labour majority as low as possible.So the Tories can come back in 2029? Why would they?This is to do with the forthcoming election and not the one in 2029.I think Tories have done a lot of damage over the past 14 years and in my opinion I think they will struggle to get in again.But I also believe Labour will become even more unpopular when as expected they will get in.But the Greens, Independents are making up ground slowly.Stop and think.The only way Labour gets in with a small majority is if the Tories get 250 seats.There is no other realistic scenario where that happens.If the Tories get 250 seats, that's a massive win for them and they are well set to come back in 2029.That's the reality. You can wish all you want that Greens and Independents will win 150 seats between them. Meanwhile, the rest of us deal with the world as it actually is.
Tactical voting is going to be absolutely huge in this election and that's going to help Labour more than most. Without tactical voting they're going to require a massive swing following the calamity of 2019. To be fair, the polls suggest that they could probably get this swing, but tactical Labour/Liberal voting will certainly help. The fact that Reform will be taking away votes from the Conservatives will obviously help Labour too. On a different note, I saw the PM on telly this morning and you could clearly see what their tactic is going be - A vote for the Conservatives is a vote for stability. I think they've got this wrong as I reckon that people will be asking themselves these questions to make their minds up who to vote for:1. Can I/my kids afford to buy or rent a house2. Are migration numbers falling 3. Can I see a Doctor or Dentist 4. Am I financially better off
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on May 23, 2024, 10:48:48 amQuote from: roverstillidie91 on May 23, 2024, 10:01:31 amQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on May 23, 2024, 09:36:14 amQuote from: roverstillidie91 on May 23, 2024, 07:51:37 amNeed the Tories out but ideally a Labour majority as low as possible.So the Tories can come back in 2029? Why would they?This is to do with the forthcoming election and not the one in 2029.I think Tories have done a lot of damage over the past 14 years and in my opinion I think they will struggle to get in again.But I also believe Labour will become even more unpopular when as expected they will get in.But the Greens, Independents are making up ground slowly.Stop and think.The only way Labour gets in with a small majority is if the Tories get 250 seats.There is no other realistic scenario where that happens.If the Tories get 250 seats, that's a massive win for them and they are well set to come back in 2029.That's the reality. You can wish all you want that Greens and Independents will win 150 seats between them. Meanwhile, the rest of us deal with the world as it actually is. When did I say greens and independents would get 150 seats between them?In an ideal world yes but there will be some surprises along the way.We will just see what happens come 4th July or whenever it is.
The small parties in the future would get over 100 Seats if we had PRThis time round Green Party will get about 10% of votes cast and equating to 65 seats under PR but will get 1 Seat in Brighton Pavilion maybe 1 more if they are luckyIt stinks because if they did get 65 seats the non voters totalling 13 million who say " my vote doesn't count , my vote is irrelevant , might just might see that it does (under PR) and begin to vote for themThat would be better than Pinocchio Johnson getting 43% of votes cast and getting way more than 279 Seats
And the covid inquiry continues ............''NEW: Simon Case says he knew nothing about Rishi Sunak’s ‘eat out to help out’ Covid hospitality scheme until the day it was announced - despite being both permanent secretary and the head of the government’s taskforce.Case says he also had no idea about the public health worries until August 2020, when it was already running.Hugo Keith: “Barnard Castle....“ Simon Case, off-screen: *loud sigh*Simon Case says both the Dominic Cummings/Barnard Castle jaunt and No 10 parties would “feel like a terrible insult” to bereaved families. He says government polling at the time showed Barnard Castle badly damaged public confidence in abiding by Covid rules.Blimey - Hugo Keith says Simon Case’s witness statement says some failings under Boris Johnson and his team amounted to “the worst governing ever seen”. Asked about this, Case again becomes emotional: “There were some dark days when it felt that we just couldn’t get it right.”The Guardian Some election slogans being written as we speak.
Quote from: SydneyRover on May 23, 2024, 05:19:04 pmAnd the covid inquiry continues ............''NEW: Simon Case says he knew nothing about Rishi Sunak’s ‘eat out to help out’ Covid hospitality scheme until the day it was announced - despite being both permanent secretary and the head of the government’s taskforce.Case says he also had no idea about the public health worries until August 2020, when it was already running.Hugo Keith: “Barnard Castle....“ Simon Case, off-screen: *loud sigh*Simon Case says both the Dominic Cummings/Barnard Castle jaunt and No 10 parties would “feel like a terrible insult” to bereaved families. He says government polling at the time showed Barnard Castle badly damaged public confidence in abiding by Covid rules.Blimey - Hugo Keith says Simon Case’s witness statement says some failings under Boris Johnson and his team amounted to “the worst governing ever seen”. Asked about this, Case again becomes emotional: “There were some dark days when it felt that we just couldn’t get it right.”The Guardian Some election slogans being written as we speak.Have to say, I'm astonished this inquiry isn't suspended under purdah rules.
Apparently Danny Kruger is looked upon as being one of the intellects in the Tory party. I think that might get somewhere towards the core of the problem.https://x.com/implausibleblog/status/1793425368860541384
Quote from: selby on May 23, 2024, 09:47:49 am I wonder what the note in the treasury will say this time?“You thought last time was bad”“We’ve given all the money to our cronies”
I wonder what the note in the treasury will say this time?
Quote from: Filo on May 23, 2024, 09:53:31 amQuote from: selby on May 23, 2024, 09:47:49 am I wonder what the note in the treasury will say this time?“You thought last time was bad”“We’ve given all the money to our cronies”I remember someone on here saying it was traditional for the outgoing chancellor to leave a note for the incoming one.I don’t suppose there is a standard note content.
Quote from: drfchound on May 23, 2024, 08:11:11 pmQuote from: Filo on May 23, 2024, 09:53:31 amQuote from: selby on May 23, 2024, 09:47:49 am I wonder what the note in the treasury will say this time?“You thought last time was bad”“We’ve given all the money to our cronies”I remember someone on here saying it was traditional for the outgoing chancellor to leave a note for the incoming one.I don’t suppose there is a standard note content.In 1964, outgoing Tory chancellor Reggie Maudling left a note for his Labour successor, Jim Callaghan: “Good luck, old cock. Sorry to leave it in such a mess.” Callaghan reportedly thought he was talking about the state of his office at first, before he looked at the books.https://www.buzzfeed.com/emilyashton/byrne-baby-byrne
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on May 22, 2024, 09:41:26 pmQuote from: big fat yorkshire pudding on May 22, 2024, 09:37:44 pmAnd for those expecting a change in the polling over the 6 week period, we dont really normally see that. You'd be hard pushed to bet against a labour majority of some size.Unless Starmer gets caught on video skinning alive a baby, Labour are stuck on for a 200 seat majority over the Tories.Kier Starmer is obviously a charlatan and womaniser.There couldn't be any other reason for the vitriol he gets on here unless certain posters have got home to find their Mrs on all fours calling him daddy.
Quote from: big fat yorkshire pudding on May 22, 2024, 09:37:44 pmAnd for those expecting a change in the polling over the 6 week period, we dont really normally see that. You'd be hard pushed to bet against a labour majority of some size.Unless Starmer gets caught on video skinning alive a baby, Labour are stuck on for a 200 seat majority over the Tories.
And for those expecting a change in the polling over the 6 week period, we dont really normally see that. You'd be hard pushed to bet against a labour majority of some size.
I guess you will be calling risky a liar for cancelling the Rwanda and non-smoking bills, aye bb?
Quote from: SydneyRover on May 23, 2024, 09:03:08 pmI guess you will be calling risky a liar for cancelling the Rwanda and non-smoking bills, aye bb?Rishi hasn't cancelled Rwanda and the non-smoking bill, he's postponed them.
Quote from: Bentley Bullet on May 23, 2024, 09:31:17 pmQuote from: SydneyRover on May 23, 2024, 09:03:08 pmI guess you will be calling risky a liar for cancelling the Rwanda and non-smoking bills, aye bb?Rishi hasn't cancelled Rwanda and the non-smoking bill, he's postponed them.Till he's next elected, give me a break.
Quote from: SydneyRover on May 23, 2024, 09:41:52 pmQuote from: Bentley Bullet on May 23, 2024, 09:31:17 pmQuote from: SydneyRover on May 23, 2024, 09:03:08 pmI guess you will be calling risky a liar for cancelling the Rwanda and non-smoking bills, aye bb?Rishi hasn't cancelled Rwanda and the non-smoking bill, he's postponed them.Till he's next elected, give me a break. Why should I give you a break? You're wrong, as usual. Well, either that, or you were lying?
Quote from: Bentley Bullet on May 23, 2024, 09:49:06 pmQuote from: SydneyRover on May 23, 2024, 09:41:52 pmQuote from: Bentley Bullet on May 23, 2024, 09:31:17 pmQuote from: SydneyRover on May 23, 2024, 09:03:08 pmI guess you will be calling risky a liar for cancelling the Rwanda and non-smoking bills, aye bb?Rishi hasn't cancelled Rwanda and the non-smoking bill, he's postponed them.Till he's next elected, give me a break. Why should I give you a break? You're wrong, as usual. Well, either that, or you were lying?Up past your bedtime again bb?