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donnyspadge

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Team depth
« on May 24, 2024, 03:14:51 pm by donnyspadge »
Gk
New GK
Lawlor

RB
Sterry
New RB

CB
Woods
Anderson
Olowu
New CB

LB
Maxwell
Senior

CM
Bailey
Westbrook
Sbarra
Close
Broadbent

RW
Molyneux- sign ?
New RW

LW
Hurst
Adelekun - sign ?

ST
Ironside
Miller
New ST

Loaned out
Jones
Faulkner
Mcgrath
Degruchy
Kuleya
Goodman



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DearneValleyRover

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Re: Team depth
« Reply #1 on May 24, 2024, 03:17:07 pm by DearneValleyRover »
Don’t think we will get another CB, I also think we need another striker

Alan Southstand

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Re: Team depth
« Reply #2 on May 24, 2024, 05:07:13 pm by Alan Southstand »
Molyneux and Adelakun both mentioned, but not Biggins? Do you know something we don’t?

Personally, I think the midfield needs another ‘Craig’ type, even if Biggins does sign.
New RB required
New striker required
New RW required (hopefully, to compete with Molyneux)
Last, but not least, new keeper.

5 needed, maybe more depending on the ponderers.

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Re: Team depth
« Reply #3 on May 24, 2024, 05:35:45 pm by sedwardsdrfc »
Don’t need a new centre half unless it’s someone so good they walk into the team. In terms of depth we’re overstocked.

We need a winger or two and a centre forward then we’re set imo. Obviously a 1st choice keeper too. It’s quality over quantity this summer.


scawsby steve

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Re: Team depth
« Reply #4 on May 24, 2024, 08:19:33 pm by scawsby steve »
Don’t need a new centre half unless it’s someone so good they walk into the team. In terms of depth we’re overstocked.

We need a winger or two and a centre forward then we’re set imo. Obviously a 1st choice keeper too. It’s quality over quantity this summer.

Totally agree, mate. GM said himself that the squad is too bloated. No less than 37 players appeared in league games last season.

I also believe that the keeper needs to be a loan, as in Sam Johnstone, Seny Dieng, and TLT. It's the only way we'll get the quality needed in that position.

ForsolongaRover

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Re: Team depth
« Reply #5 on May 24, 2024, 08:38:12 pm by ForsolongaRover »
Molyneux and Adelakun both mentioned, but not Biggins? Do you know something we don’t?

Personally, I think the midfield needs another ‘Craig’ type, even if Biggins does sign.
New RB required
New striker required
New RW required (hopefully, to compete with Molyneux)
Last, but not least, new keeper.

5 needed, maybe more depending on the ponderers

“Craig types” are needed all over the pitch when it means someone who gets stuck in.

ncRover

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Re: Team depth
« Reply #6 on May 24, 2024, 08:48:42 pm by ncRover »
For the “Craig role” we have Close and Westbrooke.

That downgrade has been offset by the signing of Sbarra, who looks to be very comfortable on the ball. Something that isn’t/wasn’t a strength of Biggins.

Might need a more physical midfielder if there’s one more. The midfield is more open with Close in it, I’m not sure if stats can quantify that.


DearneValleyRover

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Re: Team depth
« Reply #7 on May 24, 2024, 09:16:10 pm by DearneValleyRover »
Don’t need a new centre half unless it’s someone so good they walk into the team. In terms of depth we’re overstocked.

We need a winger or two and a centre forward then we’re set imo. Obviously a 1st choice keeper too. It’s quality over quantity this summer.

Totally agree, mate. GM said himself that the squad is too bloated. No less than 37 players appeared in league games last season.

I also believe that the keeper needs to be a loan, as in Sam Johnstone, Seny Dieng, and TLT. It's the only way we'll get the quality needed in that position.

Jed Steer is available

scawsby steve

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Re: Team depth
« Reply #8 on May 24, 2024, 09:31:12 pm by scawsby steve »
Don’t need a new centre half unless it’s someone so good they walk into the team. In terms of depth we’re overstocked.

We need a winger or two and a centre forward then we’re set imo. Obviously a 1st choice keeper too. It’s quality over quantity this summer.

Totally agree, mate. GM said himself that the squad is too bloated. No less than 37 players appeared in league games last season.

I also believe that the keeper needs to be a loan, as in Sam Johnstone, Seny Dieng, and TLT. It's the only way we'll get the quality needed in that position.

Jed Steer is available

That would be a great signing, DVR. Would wages be a problem though?

ncRover

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Re: Team depth
« Reply #9 on May 24, 2024, 09:43:34 pm by ncRover »
Posh have offered Steer a contract

Draytonian III

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Re: Team depth
« Reply #10 on May 24, 2024, 11:02:09 pm by Draytonian III »
When Jed Steer was at Rovers he was awful, he must have improved. Also I can’t see why people rate Ian Lawlor better than Louis Jones, before he came back Lawlor couldn’t get a start for Dundee in the Scottish Championship.
 

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Re: Team depth
« Reply #11 on May 25, 2024, 09:37:21 am by idler »
Ramsdale can’t get a start for Arsenal or even Ortega usually for Man City. It depends who is in the first team in front of you at any one time.

scawsby steve

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Re: Team depth
« Reply #12 on May 25, 2024, 06:49:04 pm by scawsby steve »
When Jed Steer was at Rovers he was awful, he must have improved. Also I can’t see why people rate Ian Lawlor better than Louis Jones, before he came back Lawlor couldn’t get a start for Dundee in the Scottish Championship.

You're right that he must have improved. You don't play for Aston Villa in the Premier League unless you're decent.

The same thing for David Raya. He was awful against us for Blackburn when we pumped them 3-1, yet he's now Arsenal's No1 keeper.

Danmckay456

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Re: Team depth
« Reply #13 on May 26, 2024, 06:28:28 am by Danmckay456 »
Fully expect us to sign a new goalkeeper , competition at right back , another midfielder if Biggins doesn’t sign , a couple of strikers and hopefully we won’t have to sign a couple of replacement wingers

DonnyOsmond

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Re: Team depth
« Reply #14 on May 27, 2024, 10:21:24 pm by DonnyOsmond »
Hurst Ironside Gibson
Sbarra
Close Bailey
Maxwell Wood Anderson Sterry
Lawlor

Subs: Jones, Senior, Olowu, McGrath, Broadbent, Westbrooke, Miller



Currently looking like this.

drfchound

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Re: Team depth
« Reply #15 on May 27, 2024, 10:23:10 pm by drfchound »
That looks like a decent team.

Alan Southstand

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Re: Team depth
« Reply #16 on May 27, 2024, 10:47:18 pm by Alan Southstand »
But is it a promotion winning team?

Not quite, imho. There are 3 positions up for grabs.

Ryaldinhio

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Re: Team depth
« Reply #17 on May 27, 2024, 11:13:42 pm by Ryaldinhio »
Based on the above and keeping 2 players for every position I would say we need:

Keeper - must have for me

CB - possible - Senior/Olowu doesn't feel as strong as Woods/Anderson but also have McGrath/Faulkner so plenty of numbers if GM deems good enough

RB - Must have - Nixon? Sterry has never played a full season so this is a must have.

Attacking mid - Must have - Biggo? If not then must have, having lost Biggo/Rowe.

2No Wingers - Must have - Moly & Haks? If not then we need 2 more having lost Moly/Haks/Taylor.

Striker - Must have. Ironside class, Miller hopefully back, still need another.

So overall I think we need 6 signings, hopefully 3 of them are renewals.

MagicMartinoWoods

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Re: Team depth
« Reply #18 on May 28, 2024, 12:19:51 am by MagicMartinoWoods »
Bit confused as to why people are wanting another striker here, unless it's concerns over whether miller will stay fit? If GM plays his typical formation we have two good strikers for one position. I could imagine signing a young player with potential as a third as backup but wouldn't think that's a key area where we need to look at first team starter quality. For me there are enough other areas that need regular starter quality bringing in, and budget/squad places need to be utilised wisely.

You need to keep squad harmony too and not everyone can start.
« Last Edit: May 28, 2024, 12:21:59 am by MagicMartinoWoods »

ncRover

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Re: Team depth
« Reply #19 on May 28, 2024, 06:10:05 am by ncRover »
Bit confused as to why people are wanting another striker here, unless it's concerns over whether miller will stay fit? If GM plays his typical formation we have two good strikers for one position. I could imagine signing a young player with potential as a third as backup but wouldn't think that's a key area where we need to look at first team starter quality. For me there are enough other areas that need regular starter quality bringing in, and budget/squad places need to be utilised wisely.

You need to keep squad harmony too and not everyone can start.

I think it’s maybe the fact that Ironside is integral to the way that we play.
Miller is a good striker but the jury is out on whether the team can play well with him in the lone striker role if required.

But I do think Miller will be better for playing in front of Sbarra rather than Biggins.

McCann will want flexibility in the squad to switch to 3-5-2 mid game like he did in the Barrow comeback. Perhaps if there’s another winger to come in who can play more on the right they could double up as a strike option, like Molyneux can.
« Last Edit: May 28, 2024, 06:39:26 am by ncRover »

les@donr

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Re: Team depth
« Reply #20 on May 28, 2024, 06:35:33 am by les@donr »
The club can only sign free agents, let’s see who we sign who is currently under contract. Then we will get to see the squad McCann is building.

ncRover

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Re: Team depth
« Reply #21 on May 28, 2024, 06:42:51 am by ncRover »
Midfield might done. Gibson can play Sbarra’s position as well.

roversdude

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Re: Team depth
« Reply #22 on May 28, 2024, 06:54:48 am by roversdude »
Why can we only sign free agents please?

Darren

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Re: Team depth
« Reply #23 on May 28, 2024, 07:08:13 am by Darren »
 We can only sign free agents until the transfer window opens on 14th June.

DonnyOsmond

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Re: Team depth
« Reply #24 on May 28, 2024, 07:29:42 am by DonnyOsmond »
Bit confused as to why people are wanting another striker here, unless it's concerns over whether miller will stay fit? If GM plays his typical formation we have two good strikers for one position. I could imagine signing a young player with potential as a third as backup but wouldn't think that's a key area where we need to look at first team starter quality. For me there are enough other areas that need regular starter quality bringing in, and budget/squad places need to be utilised wisely.

You need to keep squad harmony too and not everyone can start.

Miller isn't the physical striker that McCann tends to prefer, e.g. Ironside, Marquis, Biamou, Eaves, Magennis, etc.

KingKendrick

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Re: Team depth
« Reply #25 on May 28, 2024, 07:52:25 am by KingKendrick »
The club can only sign free agents, let’s see who we sign who is currently under contract. Then we will get to see the squad McCann is building.

You can agree deals for players at any time it’s just the transfers don’t go through until the window officially opens. Same with these that we have signed already. They don’t actually become free agents until after the expiry of their existing deal likely to be the end of June.
I wouldn’t expect us to sign many if any at all players who are under contract as historically we don’t.

les@donr

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« Reply #26 on May 28, 2024, 08:22:46 am by les@donr »
I’m sure if there is a player GM wants and there is a fee, I’m sure funds would be made available.

drfcsteve

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Re: Team depth
« Reply #27 on May 28, 2024, 08:32:45 am by drfcsteve »
Hurst Ironside Gibson
Sbarra
Close Bailey
Maxwell Wood Anderson Sterry
Lawlor

Subs: Jones, Senior, Olowu, McGrath, Broadbent, Westbrooke, Miller



Currently looking like this.

Add a goalkeeper and that looks a solid first 11 for this level. If we can add quality to the bench and keep everyone fit we’ll do alright. Adding Haks and or Moly would be a bonus.

IDM

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Re: Team depth
« Reply #28 on May 28, 2024, 08:57:54 am by IDM »
I’m sure if there is a player GM wants and there is a fee, I’m sure funds would be made available.

I can't recall exactly when but relatively recently it was said we could pay fees, wasn't it?

mushRTID

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Re: Team depth
« Reply #29 on May 28, 2024, 09:14:16 am by mushRTID »
Bit confused as to why people are wanting another striker here, unless it's concerns over whether miller will stay fit? If GM plays his typical formation we have two good strikers for one position. I could imagine signing a young player with potential as a third as backup but wouldn't think that's a key area where we need to look at first team starter quality. For me there are enough other areas that need regular starter quality bringing in, and budget/squad places need to be utilised wisely.

You need to keep squad harmony too and not everyone can start.

In the play off home leg I thought we badly missed having an option up front. If Bimou had been on the bench we’d have seen him not long after HT.

Every team that gets promoted has options up front. We definitely need another one and Iv got a feeling it’s going to be another established player rather than a young loan.


 

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