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danumdon

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Re: National Servce
« Reply #60 on May 26, 2024, 08:59:17 pm by danumdon »
DD those figures back up my point. Only 1.2% of the population are unemployed. A historically low level.

Of that group, most are only out of work for twelve months or less.

That historically low figure does not include the 1.7m of the economically inactive who want a job.

Did you click on the "Reasons people are not in work graphic and click the "wants a job tab"




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Glyn_Wigley

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« Reply #61 on May 26, 2024, 09:12:09 pm by Glyn_Wigley »
  12 months could be worse than life in prison for murder, just imagine sharing a barracks with 18year old Billy ST, Kato, Glyn and Syd in your platoon.
  Christ almighty.

I come from a naval family but don't worry, you're safe. I wouldn't be accepted.

River Don

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« Reply #62 on May 26, 2024, 09:13:10 pm by River Don »
DD no I didn't start clicking on tabs and researching other things.

I was just reacting to the figures you presented.

I can't see the link but I assume those 1.7m who would like to work don't need to and aren't claiming benefits. The early retired and so on. People who aren't easily coerced into work they do not want to do.

Provide the link and I'll react to it.
« Last Edit: May 26, 2024, 09:46:47 pm by River Don »

ravenrover

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« Reply #63 on May 26, 2024, 09:15:57 pm by ravenrover »

Iberian Red

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« Reply #64 on May 26, 2024, 09:16:42 pm by Iberian Red »
What do people think about fit and able, long term unemployed?

Would an initiative of a similar nature have an effect in reducing this cohort?

Individuals in education, training, apprenticeships and work are already catered for.

That's a very well thought idea DD.


Rather then go for 18 year olds,let's recruit Frank Gallagher and Nab Nesbitt.

Not sure who Nab Nesbitt is, but its good to see your comprehension skills are still right up there.

I could of done better.

Back to the point I made,or are you going to go off on one of your

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danumdon

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Re: National Servce
« Reply #65 on May 26, 2024, 09:25:14 pm by danumdon »
What do people think about fit and able, long term unemployed?

Would an initiative of a similar nature have an effect in reducing this cohort?

Individuals in education, training, apprenticeships and work are already catered for.

That's a very well thought idea DD.


Rather then go for 18 year olds,let's recruit Frank Gallagher and Nab Nesbitt.

Not sure who Nab Nesbitt is, but its good to see your comprehension skills are still right up there.

I could of done better.

Back to the point I made,or are you going to go off on one of your

Mr Angry Gammonfaced
of Danum.
?

You made a point, in one of your posts!

Give over.



Sprotyrover

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Re: National Servce
« Reply #66 on May 26, 2024, 10:54:12 pm by Sprotyrover »
Somebody find the Bed wetter his Dummy ?

roverstillidie91

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Re: National Servce
« Reply #67 on May 26, 2024, 11:12:06 pm by roverstillidie91 »
Globalists seeking to control the younger population with this BS just like with covid 19.

Sunak and the rest of them should send their kids to any ridiculous wars

scawsby steve

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« Reply #68 on May 27, 2024, 01:48:08 am by scawsby steve »
Bloody hell, me, BB, and Wolfie have just got our call up papers.

Those b*st*rd Tories have really got it in for us young'uns.

SydneyRover

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« Reply #69 on May 27, 2024, 05:45:38 am by SydneyRover »
Bloody hell, me, BB, and Wolfie have just got our call up papers.

Those b*st*rd Tories have really got it in for us young'uns.

I think you guys will be quite safe, the only danger would be to yourselves. The plans has been written off by most.

IDM

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« Reply #70 on May 27, 2024, 07:33:36 am by IDM »
Covid 19 was to control the youth.??

Give me strength..

roverstillidie91

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« Reply #71 on May 27, 2024, 09:10:36 am by roverstillidie91 »
Covid 19 was to control the youth.??

Give me strength..
control everyone I'll correct myself if it makes you feel better.....

One of a few on here that seem to have an attitude problem when it comes to people giving an opinion if you don't agree with something.
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IDM

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« Reply #72 on May 27, 2024, 09:24:41 am by IDM »
Attitude problem.?  Grow up.

Disagreeing isn’t having an “attitude problem”.  I was merely pointing out the futility in you argument about covid 19 “controlling” people.  If we hadn’t had such control, many more 1000s would have died.  In fact the government f**ked it by not clamping down soon enough.

Or was that all fake news.?

Apologies if I misread your meaning but that’s how it comes across to me.

IDM

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« Reply #73 on May 27, 2024, 09:27:44 am by IDM »
Getting back on topic, if you read the analysis of the national service proposals, very few would join the military and they are suggesting they are looking for the best people.  Surely they would have got jobs or university places anyway.  Plus it wouldn’t deliver in the course of the next parliament.

It’s not the national service idea I would be in favour of!  Very weak election gimmick.

Ldr

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« Reply #74 on May 27, 2024, 09:32:47 am by Ldr »
That’s all they have left, cheap tricks and baiting

River Don

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« Reply #75 on May 27, 2024, 10:00:17 am by River Don »
Just listening to a talking head promoting this national service business on the radio.

All the benefits he lists about meeting new people, teamwork. All that young people already get from further and higher education. They all go through this now.

If they are worried about Putin, and they should be, then a serious response would be invest more in the military and recruit more professional personnel.

The national service proposal is electioneering and not serious. Sunak will drop it as quick as he's dropped Rwanda and the smoking ban.

glosterred

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« Reply #76 on May 27, 2024, 12:11:37 pm by glosterred »
In 2009 this didn’t seem to exercise people in this forum as much as the latest interpretation of it seems to have



Bristol Red Rover

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« Reply #77 on May 27, 2024, 12:46:59 pm by Bristol Red Rover »
Bloody hell, me, BB, and Wolfie have just got our call up papers.

Those b*st*rd Tories have really got it in for us young'uns.
Postage delays eh! No worries, Napoleon got mashed anyway.

Bristol Red Rover

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« Reply #78 on May 27, 2024, 12:51:20 pm by Bristol Red Rover »
In 2009 this didn’t seem to exercise people in this forum as much as the latest interpretation of it seems to have



The main issue is the military side of Sunak's first bonkers exposure of this election. I hear the next policy is creating a great white shark enclosure in the Channel.

ravenrover

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« Reply #79 on May 27, 2024, 01:40:43 pm by ravenrover »
The Tories think tank are definitely watching re runs of Yes Prime Minister

https://x.com/YesPMQuoter/status/1794560983379177615?t=2RbkKB6OdUXiDiK02vBCOA&s=19

SydneyRover

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« Reply #80 on May 27, 2024, 03:35:39 pm by SydneyRover »
In 2009 this didn’t seem to exercise people in this forum as much as the latest interpretation of it seems to have

That's the problem with the old dial-up connections

drfchound

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« Reply #81 on May 27, 2024, 04:13:31 pm by drfchound »
In 2009 this didn’t seem to exercise people in this forum as much as the latest interpretation of it seems to have

How strange that that proposal hasn’t been mentioned on here.
#allthesame perhaps.

wilts rover

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« Reply #82 on May 27, 2024, 04:31:19 pm by wilts rover »
The idea of compulsory military service proving somewhat problamatic in Northern Ireland then:

https://x.com/BelTel/status/1794967143768895774

SydneyRover

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« Reply #83 on May 27, 2024, 06:31:24 pm by SydneyRover »
I'd like someone to step up and name some big promises that the tories or tories plus libdems have made and followed through to the end that has benefitted the majority or the country.

drfchound

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« Reply #84 on May 27, 2024, 07:10:34 pm by drfchound »
Google is your friend.

Glyn_Wigley

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« Reply #85 on May 27, 2024, 07:45:50 pm by Glyn_Wigley »
Google is your friend.

And Google says 'f**k all'. It really is our friend!

Herbert Anchovy

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« Reply #86 on May 27, 2024, 08:11:19 pm by Herbert Anchovy »
This has to be the most bat-shit crazy policy proposal that I’ve ever heard in my life! National service ended in 1960 and you don’t have to do too much research to read how incredibly unpopular it was at the time.

What the hell are the government trying to achieve with this? Do they genuinely think that anyone in their right mind would accept it?

Rather than introducing national service, they should increase support of the Armed Forces through better pay and conditions and that’ll maybe stop so many leaving the services?

I wonder which voter demographic they’re looking to appeal to?

And you could bet your bottom dollar that Rishi & Jacob’s kids won’t find themselves as cannon fodder in any war.

Utter madness.

SydneyRover

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« Reply #87 on May 27, 2024, 08:18:15 pm by SydneyRover »
''I wonder which voter demographic they’re looking to appeal to?''

The reform party voter HA

drfchound

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« Reply #88 on May 27, 2024, 08:28:24 pm by drfchound »
I think you are right there Syd.

big fat yorkshire pudding

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« Reply #89 on May 27, 2024, 09:06:44 pm by big fat yorkshire pudding »
Just listening to a talking head promoting this national service business on the radio.

All the benefits he lists about meeting new people, teamwork. All that young people already get from further and higher education. They all go through this now.

If they are worried about Putin, and they should be, then a serious response would be invest more in the military and recruit more professional personnel.

The national service proposal is electioneering and not serious. Sunak will drop it as quick as he's dropped Rwanda and the smoking ban.

Certainly my experience of higher education was far from that. My university didn't care much for any of that, of course that may well have changed.

 

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